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01-09-2022 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LLcool
where else can you play 6+, only pokerstars and GG?
you can also play on apps but I personally haven't tried them
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01-09-2022 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CoachCoixdog6+
swings are big in 6+ but your winrate will also be better so its tough to give an exact answer to this. whatever BR you decide to use, remember that losing 50bi is totally possible, so I would go with 100buyin BR at least
Thank you for replying.
I'm gonna use a bit aggressive BRM while moving up micro stakes and I will use 100BIs when I reach low stakes
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01-10-2022 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kivy
Thank you for replying.
I'm gonna use a bit aggressive BRM while moving up micro stakes and I will use 100BIs when I reach low stakes
Overall 150BI is recommended but if your living doesn't depend on it, as I would imagine since you are playing micro stakes, then using more aggressive BRM is totally fine. GL at the tables
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01-10-2022 , 04:16 AM
Ipoker also offers it, but trips beat a straight there. I know practically nothing about 6+ but accidentally opened a table there once and found out the hard way
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01-13-2022 , 12:12 AM
Are there any poker sites which provide HU SD games??
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01-13-2022 , 12:20 AM
@CoachCoixdog6+

Do you think it is worth it to get your coaching or just buy video packs from sixplusholdem.com for micro stakes players?
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01-13-2022 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kivy
@CoachCoixdog6+

Do you think it is worth it to get your coaching or just buy video packs from sixplusholdem.com for micro stakes players?
Lol.
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01-13-2022 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by broerstolyko
Lol.
What are you implying? Do you mean it doesn't make any sense to get coaching at micro stakes??
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01-13-2022 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Kivy
What are you implying? Do you mean it doesn't make any sense to get coaching at micro stakes??
I think broerstolyko wrote "LoL" cause its very biased if you ask coach whether or not its worth to take his coachings.

Honestly I think that even though coachings always really help as coach would identify your leaks and you can quickly fix them, hence improving your game quite a lot in short period of time, it is very hard question to answer whether it is worth it or not. For mid-stake players I would always say - yes - since if you play 1$ games and your game has leaks that cost a lot of EV then by fixing those and by paying few BI's in coachings you would be able to quickly win that money back. However, if you play micro stakes it might take you a while until you get that money back.

Nonetheless, I would recommend buying preflop charts if you don't have them and if you are planning to play the game for long time because then charts you will have forever and they are super important, and if you are not using charts then those will also improve your game a lot.
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01-13-2022 , 05:55 AM
Thank your for your detailed answer
I'm gonna buy preflow charts first and I will get goaching after moving up micro stakes.
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01-13-2022 , 06:12 AM
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Thank your for your detailed answer
I'm gonna buy preflow charts first and I will get goaching after moving up micro stakes.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense
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01-13-2022 , 06:41 AM
anyone else feels like games feel softer compared to like 6 months ago? i wonder if its just me
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01-13-2022 , 06:52 AM
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anyone else feels like games feel softer compared to like 6 months ago? i wonder if its just me
they probably are, games of any format are usually softer in wintertime because people stay inside more. There are also new locldowns due to Omicron so casinos are closed ina lot of countries. Also, there were some 6+ videos from Triton posted on youtube, so all that adds up, and I agree with you, tables are softer now, so I would suggest people to grind more now and take a break in summer
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01-15-2022 , 03:42 AM
pokerstars working for you guys atm?
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01-15-2022 , 05:19 AM
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anyone else feels like games feel softer compared to like 6 months ago? i wonder if its just me
Could be but hard to tell, I don't remember how they were 6 months ago
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01-17-2022 , 11:02 AM
Hey guys!

New to 6+ and I am trying to understand what EV bb/100 you need in order to beat low-stakes at GG? Has anyone done some calculation maybe?

Thanks guys and good luck at tables!
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01-17-2022 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowyFlwrenci
Hey guys!

New to 6+ and I am trying to understand what EV bb/100 you need in order to beat low-stakes at GG? Has anyone done some calculation maybe?

Thanks guys and good luck at tables!
hard to say exactly, due to leaderboards etc, but 10bb+/100 probably. less on higher stakes because rake is lower there
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01-17-2022 , 06:50 PM
if I play on GG should I always try to win the leaderboard to beat the rake? if im not like top3, can i even be profitable with rake?
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01-18-2022 , 04:10 AM
It very much depends, general answer would be - yes - getting in leaderboards is very important, however if by doing so you end up playing bad, reggish tables and sacrifice a lot of EV on the way of getting there then I would rather recommend more table selection. I think in lower stakes the tables usually are +/- same so in that case then try to get in leaderboards once you play.
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01-18-2022 , 04:16 AM
Here are some calculations I have done for NL100 (this was before GG introduced 60A instead of 30A for bad beat jackpot, but roughly calculation will still be similar, a bit less rake):

Taking into account that GG introduced new BBJ (bad beat jackpot) which eats into our pockets, or to be precise - around 5-6A/100, we have done some work to understand how much do we really lose in the rake and how much we need to win in order to BE (break-even) and when do we make profits with the new GG system.

Considering that there are leaderboards, affiliate rake-backs (who has them), GGcare flip MTT's and fish buffet, and on top of all of that also something called PVI (Player Value Index), which is different for each player and nobody really knows how it is calculated nor whats the index for each player - its kind of hard and complicated to understand how bad or good the situation really is at GG.

However, we have been able to crack this mystery (or at least to some extend) and approximately we know what EV is required in order to BE and win.

The following information is calculated for nl100:



This is how much we get in terms of A/100 in rakeback from leaderboards with current 5k leaderboard system.

We calculate than on average in order to get 1-2 place in leaderboards you need around 1.5-2k hands, so it means that via leaderboards you can get 5A/100 in rakeback

In GGcare MTT's by doing 1.5-2k hands on average you will be able to get another 1A/100 back

In fish buffet (with 50% rb) depending on what is your PVI you will be able to get back another 3-4A/100 (most regs with good EV get 3A/100)

If you have linked your account with any affiliate (if you haven't yet then you can message me privately and I can give you contact info) then you will get another 1A/100 back

So to sum up everything, your rake-back will look around 10A/100.

The total rake for nl100 is around 20A/100 including ~15A/100 GG rake (depending on your VPIP and how aggro you play) and ~5A/100 BBJ rake

So basically the bottom line is that you need to win ~10A/100 in order to BE at GG, with condition that you go for top 1-2 places at leaderboard with no more than 2k hands

Everything above 10A/100 winrate is your profit

So just to illustrate situation if you are 20/100 player @nl100 and you play around 400 hands per hour and play 5h a day in order to get 1st place in leaderboard with 2k hands and you play 5 days a week. Then you will be able to make 40$ per hour or 200$ a day, or 1000$ in a week, or 4000$ a month + you can always hit BBJ (just 1 in 2M chance)
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01-24-2022 , 03:26 PM
Hi Coach,

really like what <i have read so far. Would you suggest now it is still a good time to get into 6+ Holdem? As I'm really sick of just NLHE...
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01-25-2022 , 03:47 AM
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Hi Coach,

really like what <i have read so far. Would you suggest now it is still a good time to get into 6+ Holdem? As I'm really sick of just NLHE...
yeah, 20+ bbEV winrates are still possible, and by plenty of people, not just me, that's because
1) Due to antes, people have to be involved in more pots, so bad players will lose more, and good player will win more, so fish will lose at -85bbEV instead of -20 and regs will win 25bbEV instead of 5bbEV
2) There isn't as much info about 6+ available easily and cheaply, for NLH you can buy GTO charts for $19usd, becasue they have been around for so long and they don't have much value anymore, as oppose to 6+ where there is very little information about how exactly to play, and the information you have is usually being sold for higher price compared to nlh, so average player will just continue playing without learning

And there is plenty of action for me at nl100-nl1000, and it's even better at nl50 and lower, especially if you mix sites like pokerstars and GG. So yes, you should switch to 6+, since you will have a higher winrate as an average 6+ reg than a GTO crusher at NLH And at the end of the day, it's all about your winrate. plus 6+ is much more fun
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01-25-2022 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CoachCoixdog6+
yeah, 20+ bbEV winrates are still possible, and by plenty of people, not just me, that's because
1) Due to antes, people have to be involved in more pots, so bad players will lose more, and good player will win more, so fish will lose at -85bbEV instead of -20 and regs will win 25bbEV instead of 5bbEV
2) There isn't as much info about 6+ available easily and cheaply, for NLH you can buy GTO charts for $19usd, becasue they have been around for so long and they don't have much value anymore, as oppose to 6+ where there is very little information about how exactly to play, and the information you have is usually being sold for higher price compared to nlh, so average player will just continue playing without learning

And there is plenty of action for me at nl100-nl1000, and it's even better at nl50 and lower, especially if you mix sites like pokerstars and GG. So yes, you should switch to 6+, since you will have a higher winrate as an average 6+ reg than a GTO crusher at NLH And at the end of the day, it's all about your winrate. plus 6+ is much more fun
Hez thanks for your answear, and the explanation... I do preferr to play on Stars, I really don't like the software from GG... But this is just a personal preference....
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01-25-2022 , 03:42 PM
The is a side called sixplusholdem... But it all expensive there...
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