So what Hand2Note does, it deducts a small percent of the pot, on the flop, turn or river.
It could be the rake. The support wrote to me that they deduct the rake.

But the problem is, because of this the betsizings are not correct any more.

Let's say I create a stat "FoldToRiverPotBet" and a player does a river pot bet, this bet is counted as an overbet
because, Hand2Note deducts a small percentage or a small amount of the pot, and creates the stat later.

Here one example:
(In order to proof it I took a hand with a pot bet from Holdem Manager 2 and imported this Hand in Hand2Note3)

A) River Bet in Holdem Manager 2, it is a Pot Bet, the player Bets 140 in 140

B) Same Hand in Hand2Note, there it is an Overbet player Bets 140 in 136.93
Very Important: Here the Bet really counts as Overbet:



I played this hand on Ipoker (Win2day), and looked through all the Hands and noticed it is in all Hands, often already on the Flop and Turn and especially on the River. If you have exact Betsizes in the Stats or for a Stat in the "Popup on Stats" and "Bet Sizings" they are all wrong. I have exact Pot bet there, also 50% and 33% Pot and everything is not correct. As I said before on Flop, Turn and River, and all the Betsizes you use. Because Hand2Note deducts a small amount, often on Flop, Turn and River.

So I moved on and looked if it's also on Coinpoker and Peoplespoker, and yes. It is on this sites too, I think it's on all sites.

Please Hand2Note Support: Can you clarify what's the issue there? Do you really deduct the rake on Flop, Turn or River, so that all exact Betsizes in all stats are wrong?

If yes can you fix this, in Hand2Note3. --- "This bug is so extreme that I don't know if I can stay with this software in the future, and also some of my students will move back to Holdem Manager."

I just noticed some weeks ago the the betsizes are wrong. great post tehfschi.

By the way: When you click through the replayer you can see the bug very easy. When you sum up what the players invest SB vs BB, like one player opens 6 Euro, one other calls 6 Euro. And on the flop one bets 10 Euro and villain calls 10 Euro. It should be 32 Euro, but in Hand2Note its less something like 31.22 or so. It's in all pots. So sick.

Yeah when you klick through the replayer any big hand you can see it. Hand2Note is deducting money on Flop, Turn or River. Because of this all the Betsize stats and data we get are full of mistakes when we wanna know exact sizes.

Here some Screenshot when I click a random Ipoker (Win2ay) hand:

A) Preflop 9 Euros are in the Pot:

B) Boom and on the Flop, there it is: only 8.6 ---> they deduct 0.4, and all the Betsizing infos are messed up because of this.

C) on the Flop one Player Bets 6 the other call 6. Pot 20.6

D) And again on the Turn the Pot is 20.23 not 20.6

I have the same problems. Please fix it Hand2Note!

Yes, it's true.

But I have forwarded your request to our development department.

JA auch ich habe dasselbe Problem festgestelt, das im Flop , Turn und River das Rake abgezogen wird und dadurch einige Funktionen nicht mehr stimmen . Wäre super wenn das behoben Wird , Robert Deutschmann (Graz)

YES, I also noticed the same problem, that the rake is deducted in the flop, turn and river and some functions are no longer correct as a result in Hand2note. It would be great if that problem will be fixed., Robert Deutschmann (Graz)

Hello, thank you, We have forwarded the issue to our team

Hello thank you for your help and forwarding this huge bug to your team :-)

Important: I found another big bug, which is important to get solved and will increase the value of Hand2Note a lot.

There is a huge bug with the hands A8o and A8s. These hands are never shown on the River Postflop Diagram. So this means in all the Postflop Diagrams are not correct, because of missing this hands when come to showdown.

Here two examples:



When I look to a stat Bet Turn, and Barrel River. These A8o, A8s hands are not shown. And it doesn't matter, which stats, in generell A8, A8s is never shown on the River Postflop Diagram. Also this bug is on all stats, and all the sites I tested like Ipoker (win2day), Coinpoker and PeoplesPoker.

Can you please solve this bug? Thanks so much Andreas

Hello, i think it depends on filters in your stat. It is not a bug. You have to try to use the default hud nd try to preproduce the bug

Hello Han2Note support,
A) I double checked it with my Stat developper, there are no filter. It's a bug. Can you please double check it on your side too?
B) According to the big Bug with the false Betsizes on all Stats because of rake deducted, how is the Status of this Bug? B1) How can I find out the actual status of the Bug? (Other software developpers have a number for the Bugs, so that I can ask for that)

Solving this Bugs is crutial, otherwise me and my students have to move back to Holdem manager again. Please understand that. We need clarity about the status about the Bugs.


Thanks so much Andreas

That's a bug and real disappointing Hand2Note! I am a student and very dependent on Hand2Note to work properly. Without solving the problems I have to go back to HM2.

Thank you, we will fix it in the H2N4

so does that mean you are not going to fix it in H2N3?
Is that even a solution for a bug like this??

Hello. Unfortunately, this will not be fixed in Hand2Note 3.

Well, that's really disappointed.

Do they fix it in 2023 H2N4?

Hello. Yes, this will be fixed shortly.