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04-29-2022 , 07:00 AM

Harry155

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 415

Does anyone else have this problem, it seems very strange? Pokerstars just stopped auto-rebuys and I was told it was because UK gaming law has just changed.

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04-29-2022 , 01:05 PM

Esa_Perse

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Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,850

Naah just you m8.

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04-29-2022 , 02:03 PM

davmcg

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,540

There haven't been any published changes on the Gambling Commission website, so this must be some new interpretation of safer gambling bollocks. Do you get thrown off zoom if you lose your buyin? I vaguely remember some discussion about this years ago re casino games and thought it wasn't going to affect poker.

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04-29-2022 , 02:08 PM

davmcg

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,540

this from eight years ago

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...ht=ukgc+rebuys

post 42

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We have had a response from the UKGC and I think it is good news.

I am though seeking some clarification. I think it says rebuys/top ups will be ok for now so long as players behaviour is monitored and that it will be consulted upon when the whole Remote Tchnical Standard is consulted upon (soonish). I only had 90 mins warning before it went on the UKGC blog so could not get clarification before it went live.

http://licensingadvertisingact.blogs...uto-rebuy.html

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42 Can licence holders offer auto-rebuy in online poker? RTS14 implementation guidance says auto-rebuy should not be provided.
The RTS is structured in such a way as to include a ‘requirement’ which must be met as well as ‘implementation guidance’ that licence holders should comply with or find another means of meeting the overall aim and requirement of the remote technical standards (further details below).

In the case of RTS14 (page 24 of the pdf) the licence holder can either:

(a) not offer automatic-rebuys, or
(b) if they do offer auto-rebuys they ensure that other protection mechanisms are in place.

For example, we would expect licensees to effectively implement other responsible gambling measures that are intended to protect players from harm. This means an operator is expected to monitor the play of their customers and, if unusual or excessive gambling activity occurred, the operator should take appropriate action.

In future we are planning to review RTS and we may seek to make this more explicit and/or consider specific controls around auto-rebuy, for example, player pre-set financial limit on their cumulative value.

But for present purposes licence holders would comply with RTS 14 if they offer auto-rebuy provided other player protection measure are effectively implemented.

We appreciate in many cases the poker provider will be B2B and will therefore (as required in licence condition 3.1.1 (4)) need to agree with their B2Cs how to monitor players and their use of auto-rebuy.

One of the issues we will be looking at when licensing operators or determining applications from those with continuation licences will be their player protection arrangements.

An RTS ‘requirement’ is mandatory whereas RTS ‘implementation guidance’ is guidance as to how to comply with the requirement.

Operators may adopt alternative approaches to those set out in implementation guidance if they have actively taken account of the guidance and can demonstrate that an alternative approach is reasonable and would be similarly effective.

Comments welcome.

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04-29-2022 , 03:43 PM

Minimal23

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Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 389

Happening for me too at cash tables

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04-29-2022 , 04:29 PM

vaklam2

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 15

Me too

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05-04-2022 , 11:03 AM

Dejavudu666

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Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 428

I think the new regulations are linked to the Bryan Kenney scandel. Martin said on Dougs pod that sorry to cuck UK players but due to some UK reg in his stable VPNing into us pool and party doing nothing about it etc then regulations will change. idk. pretty sure it's linked!

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