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12-17-2012 , 02:28 PM
don't know if its been said but I would like to be able to scroll small blind and have the "sit out next bb" funktion in zoom when playing on the mobile app
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12-17-2012 , 03:10 PM
It's still early and I realize Stars had good intentions, but I really don't like this table started idea. Regs are not playing 5 handed anyway, and as soon as someone leaves since they are the only ones penalized everyone else follows suit. This feature also makes it nearly impossible for regs to play HU matches that start games (unless it accidentally gets filtered down to them when everyone else leaves - and even then it's only fair if the regs are sitting across from each other).

Earlier today there was 10/20 and 50/100 cap running, but no 25/50, because 25/50 is the only limit with table starter currently. This scenario where 10/20 and 50/100 is running yet 25/50 isn't would pretty much never occur otherwise.

EDIT: Also autorebuy doesn't work on starter tables.

Last edited by DoubleD; 12-17-2012 at 03:20 PM. Reason: ^
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12-17-2012 , 03:45 PM
Wassup, I thought that zOOm shorthanded play was supposed to be tested this week
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12-17-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleD
It's still early and I realize Stars had good intentions, but I really don't like this table started idea.
Hope the Table Starter feature stays optional. Leaving Stars 100% the moment it becomes compulsory and I won't be the only one.
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12-17-2012 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AlinMC
Hope the Table Starter feature stays optional. Leaving Stars 100% the moment it becomes compulsory and I won't be the only one.
How does it work?
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12-17-2012 , 04:16 PM
After moving up stakes recently I have noticed a 'Favourites' games tab would be useful so I can have all the stakes/games I play show up in one area rather than switching tab such as medium, low, micro and then switching to the tourney tab to load the Mtts I play.

Favourites tab please.
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12-17-2012 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
How does it work?
From the Stars website

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* Table Starters (Beta) - Table Starters acts like an interest list for specific ring game table types. They will appear in the lobby as another table and will be identified with a special icon at the start. Players can sign up on the Table Starter through the lobby by clicking “Join Table Starter”. Once enough players have signed up, a new table is created with the players on the Table Starter list.
Here is how a table will specifically be started: Buy-in amount will be asked at the time of joining the table starter. At this point funds are not reserved, but players pre-approve to be bought in for that amount once the table starts. Once enough players join the Table Starter who have the pre-approved funds available, the new table will open and players will be bought in for the amounts they previously specified. Then blinds will then be posted but the dealing of cards will not actually start for a few seconds to allow all players to notice the new table starting. Once this short wait elapses, dealing will begin, and from then on everything will behave like a normal table. There will also be a “Play Now” button that if clicked by everyone who is seated will start the dealing immediately.
Every player can choose how many players they want to start a table with. Once a match is found a table will start. You can customize your own settings for when a table should start by going to ‘Options’ > ‘Table Starter Preferences...’ So if four players have specified they are OK for the table to start four-handed join the Table Starter, a new table will be formed and those players will be able to play while the remaining seats stay open for other players.
Various features in PokerStars will automatically sign up players for Table Starters if they cannot be seated immediately. For example, when using “Easy Seat” or clicking “Play Now” in group mode, the system will first try to seat you at an existing table as requested, and if unavailable you will be added to the Table Starters list.
To avoid abuse, there will be a timer that will block players from using Table Starters should they be seated at a new table and then leave soon after the start of dealing. We also have automatic monitoring for abusive behaviours and reserve the right to sanction players who attempt to use Table Starters for purposes other than to play at the newly created tables. More specifically, trying to avoid paying your fair share of blinds, or using Table Starters to find favorable opponents, is not allowed.
We will be rolling Table Starters out slowly at first, but if all works as expected they may be utilized as the only way to start new tables of certain types
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12-17-2012 , 05:26 PM
zoom tours nooooooow plz
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12-17-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AlinMC
Hope the Table Starter feature stays optional. Leaving Stars 100% the moment it becomes compulsory and I won't be the only one.
This.

i'm over 3.5million lifetime VPPs now, was 2time SNE.

there is one major issue people want to get solved for months now which is ratholing

all you guys doing is making every change possible in order to decrease regulars winrates even further...

- WC
- eliminate tableselection
- allow 40BBing and ratholing

gonna be interesting wats next. u r marketleader now, but don't be to sure to maintain that position forever if u go down that road even further...
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12-17-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars website
We will be rolling Table Starters out slowly at first, but if all works as expected they may be utilized as the only way to start new tables of certain types
Speaking as someone who doesn't have any issue with starting tables (at 50nl 6max) I would be mortified if the ability to sit at an empty table/sit another reg to start a table was removed.

Initially I liked the idea but the more I hear about it the less I think it will work in practice. Perhaps I would like it if I played msnl or higher where it's harder to get tables going but I enjoy playing regs heads up/shorthanded whilst starting tables, it really breaks up the monotony.
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12-17-2012 , 08:07 PM
i think table starter is a system with many flaws and it wont catch on

but if you leave it as an option, not mandatory, it cant hurt the games right?
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12-17-2012 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
i think table starter is a system with many flaws and it wont catch on

but if you leave it as an option, not mandatory, it cant hurt the games right?
This.

But I'm really concerned that there not going to be an option and that this is Stars' cure all for ratholing, shortstacking, bumhunting, grimming, jesus scripts and whatever other problems may exist.
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12-17-2012 , 08:19 PM
Table starter has potential IF (and only IF) you solve the ratholing/short stacking issue. Don't want to end up on a table full of shorty regs and not be able to leave.
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12-17-2012 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
This.

i'm over 3.5million lifetime VPPs now, was 2time SNE.

there is one major issue people want to get solved for months now which is ratholing

all you guys doing is making every change possible in order to decrease regulars winrates even further...

- WC
- eliminate tableselection
- allow 40BBing and ratholing

gonna be interesting wats next. u r marketleader now, but don't be to sure to maintain that position forever if u go down that road even further...
I like the part where you act as if 40bb min buyins was a step back from something. Wasn't all that long ago it was 20bb min buyins...
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12-17-2012 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AlinMC
Hope the Table Starter feature stays optional. Leaving Stars 100% the moment it becomes compulsory and I won't be the only one.
+1 to this and everything Timstone said.
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12-17-2012 , 11:09 PM
Oh if this Table Starters ever goes beyond being optional, I will be making my withdraw and playing elsewhere for sure.

Table selection is all part of poker and just because some people have " problems " with it, doesnt mean the rest of us should be punished.

I assume this will never be anything but optional but you never know.
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12-18-2012 , 10:03 AM
Get rid of Table Starter please. It is really annoying that there are zero 25/50 CAP tables around. I know some regs that don't use it, b/c they use some custom mods and don't update Stars unless there's a critical update. Also the fish wants to play right after they seat at the table, not after some guys will join some waiting list for the new table.
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12-18-2012 , 10:10 AM
lagging horifically today, i dont know if this counts as a software issue but its pretty tilting
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12-18-2012 , 01:57 PM
what's new in this update?
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12-18-2012 , 02:10 PM
i cant connect to pokerstars right after i updated

i just reset my computer & let it run and after like 5-10mins it gave me a error msg saying "unable to connect to server"

grrr, help plz
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12-18-2012 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Stefan

The mechanism for selecting cards is already used for selecting cards to discard in Draw games. For this reason, it is currently impossible to select cards for the Fold & Show feature in Draw games. We currently have no plans to make this possible.
I have been looking for a way to discard cards in draw using hotkeys, but I can't see that option in the Stars hotkey action drop-down menu.
Is there something I'm missing or is there another way?
Thanks.
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12-18-2012 , 03:07 PM
Hi Stars, how is RIT for ZOOM going ?
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12-18-2012 , 06:30 PM
in the "edit player notes" database, please include an option to delete all players. it's too tedious to do it otherwise
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12-18-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
in the "edit player notes" database, please include an option to delete all players. it's too tedious to do it otherwise
find the player notes xml file (location can be derived from the client) and delete that. a new one will be created next time you log-into the client
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12-18-2012 , 08:30 PM
I thought that the tablestarters system at high stakes was supposed to functionally work like king of the hill - sort of like a sng lobby. This is how I thought it would be implemented.

Meaning, there would be an open waitlist of 6 players and 5 regs would join. If a recreational player comes, they see 5/6 and join the game and it starts. (Or they "play now" or whatever before they even see the 5/6.)

If the 6th reg joins, then either someone quits or they all play 2 orbits or whatever. If someone quits, then they can't use table starter for a while. In this manner, better regs can "boot" bad regs off the list, because they can force that reg to either play a bunch of hands or get kicked from using table starters for a little bit.

But, since Table Starters are the main funnel for how games start, there is great value in being one of those 5 regs on the list.

So quickly the system at high stakes should be, 5/6 regs sitting waiting. The only difference is, instead of how fast you can sit down, the 5 regs that get to play the fish is now determined by a king of the hill style device.

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So, with all of that above information, can someone explain to me how does Table Starters actually work in real life, and why is it not like the way that I described it?
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