Whats the most players people have seen online during the covid shutdown? Did it reach 10k?

I am not a professional by any means i just like to get in there and gamble and bet on sports while i do it so the site was convenient for me because i could keep sports and poker money all in one place but some of things they do piss me off to the point i just dont think i can use them anymore. I made a parlay that included dodgers -175 today and a few hours later Kershaw got scratched. I figured no big deal that part will be voided and it will become a 2 leg parlay like every other time this has happened. I get home log on and see its still active so i contact live chat and they tell me their policy is all baseball bets are action even with a pitching change. I go back and send him ref #'s to 6 other instances this has happened once as recently as september 5th, where the bet has been voided every time. He then informs me the policy was changed and they reserve that right to change it at any time. I said you may be able to do so but in my opinion that doesnt make it the best practice. I will simply wait for the rest of my bets to settle tonight and i will close my account and bet on barstool or fanduel and wait for party or someone else to launch to play poker. I am sure they dont care to lose one random person even if i do have 70k in tournament buyins and who knows how much in rake paid in cash games and sports bets lost but the customer service is just about unbearable for me personally at this point

So if you save your chests for when these promos roll around they will open with the promo dice roll even if said chest was completed before the promotion began?

That would be super clutch (and super tilting because I never thought to save the chests for these promotion) because I did some rough math on how many chests you have to open in a three week period to get to the end of the haunted house and its like 12-13 unless you get really hot with rolling 4s. My black chests require something like $720 in rake paid for each one. And I open roughly 3 a week playing 20k hands a week.

This promotion is bullshit. Last one guaranteed a lot more and this one feels damn near impossible to get to the end and that's only $350. There's no way you're gonna land on any more than half the rooms exactly right? So maybe another $300-350? On the bright side, its motivation for me to actually put in the volume.

slighty over 5 at its peak.

The previously earned chests working on current promo hasnt always worked but it does for this one. Given you need 10+ chests usually to move through these maze/board coming in with 3-5 seems only way to do it. There's no way to get this one done at the black level, I'm not hustling to pay 8k+ rake for a few hundred dollars.

Also you're a tough player, you should realize this promo is trash and go for less volume (:

Ok thanks. I wonder how many players we would get during peak hours, after covid is gone(ish), if they end up combining pa, mi and nj.
I guess that would probably hit around 8k to 10k or so.

8-game
HORSE
Stud
Stud-8
Razz
PL Badugi
PL 5 card draw

That's off the top of my head, may have missed one. It's a different game every night, and 8-game during the day too.

damn, PA is 1/25 of the usa population. that means with usa regulated poker we could easily see 125k players online at peak hours. ggpoker barely does 120k at peak with an international player pool, pretty sure stars international is lower but haven't checked in a while. crazy how popular online poker still is in the us when there's a regulated market.

That was peak shutdown. Now traffic tends to top out at 2k on a good night.

Regulation, good promos, and Draftkings style advertising could make a big difference.

Unfortunately don’t see that happening (for poker specifically) unless Party comes in and wants to make the investment to grab the existing PS poker player base in the hopes those players are also heavy sports betters and degen it up in the casino. Either way happy to have regulated online poker, but with anything regulated there’s a massive amount of room for improvement that’ll be slow to come by.

Pokerstars is still the only site in PA?

I was thinking more nationally, once regulated gaming starts rolling out everywhere. We're still years away from that, but was working with his full nation numbers.

That so awesome. So theres an 8 game tournament every day, and then one of the mix up tournaments every night? What are the buy ins and how many players enter them?
Im thinking about flying to PA over this lol.

$20/$30 and $50, they get about 50 ppl.

Thanks!

You don't have to make it through the whole board though. If you land on a room/key three times then you're done. Every single roll is a 1-in-4 chance of hitting a chest.

On average should take two rolls for each chest. Meaning that for each two chests you have a 50% chance of having landed on a key. So 6 chests on average perhaps to get all three?

I'm not at all sure I'm doing the math correct there.

For black level it is $590 extra in total for possibly 6 chests I believe. So assume it might take longer than that and you are still probably around an extra $70 per chest which is more than you normally get for a chest I believe. So roughly double your typical rakeback or better if you do the whole thing AND don't get really unlucky with missing chests as you move across the board.

I agree that is lousy of them to change the policy without even disclosing it. Yowza.
Most sites give an option for "Action" or no action depending on whether the starting pitchers change. FanDuel I think even lets you choose one pitcher over the other for action if you want. So you can choose "If Kershaw is scratched then No Action. But if the other team's pitcher is scratched you still have action."

I usually have Action selected anyway so would just take the L if a stud was scratched. Which happened to me in that game on the Kershaw side but on a different site where I know what the situation is ahead of time.

Kind of suspicious they are doing this with a Kershaw game too. Almost certainly you weren't the only one and many others were killed on that game too. So it had to be a company policy specifically on that one too...probably eith instructions not to give any refunds to anyone. They avoided a lot of refunds there.

A few months ago, FoxBet let me cancel a bet when I took the wrong team by mistake well ahead of the game. I wrote to them and explained it was an accident. They said not to make a regular thing out of it but gave me a refund. That was awhile ago. I was surprised and impressed. And certainly appreciated it.

Easily should give you a refund there and apologize simply for not notifying you of the policy as a thank you for your overall business. I think many books would do that especially if you are a frequent customer. You got a cust-serv rep in a bad mood and/or they are getting really uptight and hardline with their customers and had a company-wide policy on that game.
Kind of weird considering all the little mini-boosts they give for a $10 bet changing a -250 prop to +100. Those actions indicate to me they want to attract and keep customers. But certainly that isn't evidenced by your experience on that game.

Ohhhh....okay cool. That makes more sense. Thought it was an absurdly poor (or more poor than usual I should say) rake to rake back promo. Thanks for shedding light on this.

Has anyone been to Airy or Mohegan since they've reopened their rooms? They were the saddest/deadest rooms pre pandemic so curious to see if people are now flocking or still business as usual (meaning none).

Indeed, they make it incredibly difficult for their customers to figure out their own promos. Weird and confusing and sometimes contradictory languages, etc. Although this one is explained a little bit better. But I'm also more aware now because these types of promos they run are virtually identical or very similar over and over.

Now they are adding a Monthly Challenges thing again as well. That might be another 30% rakeback during the very brief stretch in which you are clearing it. Depending on how much you play per month it might be worth another 5-10% on the month as a whole.. or less. Better than nothing. But I really think they could structure or describe it in a way that excited the customer more instead it almost makes it look like LESS than what it actually is. Similar to the keys/chest promo...that confuses some into thinking it is harder or has less value than what it really does. They are.accomplishing the opposite of what they should want to be in terms of customers interest and excitement by overcomplicating it.
If they said "earn an extra 30% rakeback on your next $1000 of contributed rake" I think more customers would be blown away by that. But that is actually less than what the challenge is worth (for me anyway).

I read that Mt. Airy was pretty dead on Sunday. 4 tables running that are all 7 handed max but with a couple people wondering away at different times they tended to play 5 handed most of the time. The dude said he heard Fri and Sat were a bit better.
I don't really care much about playing live so don't intend on going. But that's what I happened to see while browsing elsewhere.

Right on. Yeah, I used to play exclusively live and now, to be honest, not sure if I can imagine playing 25 hands/hr ever again. Sounds painful ha. I won't be playing live again until Wind Creek reopens and that may not be until next year.

Here's a typical slate of tourneys. Even better, they are reentry events (unlimited for the first hour). So you can fire 2 or 3 bullets if you bust early. I have done up to 5 but I don't recommend that haha. BTW some of them are stud/8 events but the title is cut off on the screen.

Thank you! This looks like so much fun.
The razz tournament in this screen shot got 98 entries. If those are unique entrants, thats pretty freakin good for a razz tournament limited to one state player pool.

Need some celebrities playing on this site to attract more folks.

Miles Sanders should be free this week.