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01-04-2020 , 10:08 PM
I’ve read through most of the issues in this thread before joining and playing about 10k hands in the past week. I’ve had zero issues and am very satisfied so far with the site. It’s early for legalized online poker in PA (and the US for that matter). Obviously, the PokerStars PA site is not their main focus right now for their business. It’s unfortunate that so many of you are having issues with the site, but it’s only going to get better as the player pool increases and hopefully involves other states. Cheers.
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01-05-2020 , 12:51 AM
Anyone having trouble with withdrawal? I keep getting the message
"We cannot process your request at the moment. An unexpected error occurred while processing your request"
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01-05-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by QKinHearts
Anyone having trouble with withdrawal? I keep getting the message
"We cannot process your request at the moment. An unexpected error occurred while processing your request"
This happened for me with the echecks 4-5x then I relaunched, changed the amount by a few dollars, and it went right through.
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01-05-2020 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by QKinHearts
Anyone having trouble with withdrawal? I keep getting the message
"We cannot process your request at the moment. An unexpected error occurred while processing your request"
It happens to me sometimes, if I close cashier and try again it eventually goes through.
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01-07-2020 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by arbitrageur1
for anyone playing NL 100NL-500NL, any view on how the games will get (relative to right now) when we merge with NJ/NV/DE? (softer or harder?)

Harder, not close. Bad for cash pros, good for tourney pros. I don't expect that merge to be anytime soon though.

Also if you have any history with NJ sites from their first few months to present, what are your expectations for traffic (and type of traffic) in small and midstakes NLHE in 2020 and beyond?

Maybe get better, plateau, then go to the shitter. New Jersey had way more high stakes games running when they first started. 4-6 5/10 and 10/20 running was the norm. I rarely see anything higher than 2/5 with any frequency.

Traffic in PA was good around the holidays. This past week has been not great aside from like 8-11pm.

ive clocked 30k hands on my t-day and xmas breaks, heres some anecdotes/observations i can share:

- outside of trough hours ill see 8-12 or more tables of 50 and 100nl running, seems stable last few weeks
- curious to see what games look like after xmas break (only reason ive been on!)
- not unusual at night (8pm - 2am) to see 2 full tables of 5/10 and 4-6 tables of 2/5 going; was playing 4 tables 100nl at 3am and watching 2 6-way 10/20 tables the other night
- feels healthy to see a variety of names now sitting (albeit solo / waiting) at 25/50 (5 or 6 now), feels like the ecosystem/pyramid is shaping out a bit
- concerned that the player pool / ssnlhe game liquidity will suffer as more sites launch (If???); i dont see adding more sites also adding more players but it would be an ecosystem uplift and chance for more ads, so i could be wrong
- not seeing / hearing (radio) any ads to play on Stars PA, but that should just be future upside to traffic right?
- feel good about PA being a college heavy state, every Fall many new thousands of at-risk GPAs primed to joined the ssnl pool (187 4y colleges in PA vs only 47 in NJ)

Loose analogy but all in all this (pstars PA) feels like Paradise / UB in 2002. Folks seeking out online poker are doing so. Not a huge recc tail. But all this legalization, pool merging and paypal enabled fully legit sites feel like the priming / foundation for another boom, which could be then be sustainable with legit sponsors able to embrace. Foundation needs a bit more (more states, more ads), then we'll need someone to strike a match a la Rounders or Moneymaker.

More states need to get their **** together. We were the first state since NJ to get up and running and that took FIVE years. MI just passed which is similar in size to PA so maybe dominoes will start falling.

Lastly, i see the complaints in this thread about the software, but fwiw ive played 30k hands and have had no issues, Pstars PA is as smooth a playing/cashier experience as any ive had / would expect.
It's the best software I have played on, probably ever. I have had 0 geolocation issues. My last PayPal withdrawal showed up instantly in my account. People just like to complain.
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01-07-2020 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by plappaslappa
anyone playing near the NJ border in philly in areas like fishtown? was just curious how far inside i need to be since i'll be arriving mid-jan or so and getting an airbnb but dont want to have any geolocation issues
i play from there, no problems

geolocation software is very advanced -- in terms of the physical location pinpoint

you could play driving on the ben franklin bridge up to the moment it becomes nj
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01-07-2020 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by arbitrageur1
for anyone playing NL 100NL-500NL, any view on how the games will get (relative to right now) when we merge with NJ/NV/DE? (softer or harder?)
I just moved from Delaware to Pennsylvania and I can tell you WSOP is soft as it gets up to about 50nl. I played some 100nl but not enough to give an experienced opinion but from my few times playing on random tables with no deliberate selection the games weren't ridiculously tough. On the weekends you'll find recs at all stakes just like you would a brick and mortar.
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01-08-2020 , 05:39 PM
How high does the requirement for unlocking a black chest go? Mine just went up from 30k to 57k
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01-08-2020 , 06:20 PM
The chest algorithm is nuts. My first 2 diamond chests were a little more than 11k points each to unlock, now the third one is over 23k points. I assume there's no upper limit on a black one.
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01-08-2020 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by L.Washington
The chest algorithm is nuts. My first 2 diamond chests were a little more than 11k points each to unlock, now the third one is over 23k points. I assume there's no upper limit on a black one.
came here to post about this.

my last two were 30k and 30,400 or so. This one is 51k! Same level.

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came here to post about this.

my last two were 30k and 30,400 or so. This one is 51k! Same level.
It is actually 57k

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-13-2020 at 01:33 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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01-09-2020 , 12:38 AM
Any views on upper limits to winrate and volume at 100-500NL? Monthly take $?

I'd like to imagine one could do 5.0 ptbbs at +70k/hands/month volume (leaning on legal PA, supplement table selection with the 4 global sites)

Contemplating quitting my job but mannnn it'd be crazy.
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01-09-2020 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yeimdatdude
came here to post about this.

my last two were 30k and 30,400 or so. This one is 51k! Same level.
My black chests now cost 57,450. There are guys on row stars (according to the 2p2 thread) paying over 300k for a chest. If you are a winning reg then expect them to just keeping going up until your effective rakeback is basically nothing (like 3% or less). It sucks.
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01-09-2020 , 10:11 PM
Just opened my 3rd black chest and now the next one went up to 57,450. Hopefully someone new will enter the market quickly. I'd imagine Stars will have the softest games after the other sites open since they push regs away, but with how much we pay in rake I doubt it would be worth putting in significant volume here.
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01-10-2020 , 01:06 AM
I just downloaded the pokerstars software onto my macbook pro (mid 2009 13 inch, using os x el capitan). When I first opened the program and went into the settings to change the table theme and felt color there was a whole bunch of different options. For the felt color I was able to pick any color imaginable from a color wheel. I saved a few of colors I was going to use while playing. It also gave me the option to choose from a whole bunch of different table themes.

After messing around with the different options I closed the program and reopened it about 30 mins later and all of a sudden all of the different table theme and felt color options are gone. I now only have about 9 different stock felt colors to choose from and like 4 different table themes. Not sure what happened to all the other options. It also seems like the sounds; chips, cards being delt and bet/fold noises have changed as well (not sure about that though). I tried deleting the software and re-downloading it but its still the same.

Im curious, does everyone have about 9 different felt colors to choose from or can you pick any color you want? Anyone know how I can get all those options back? Thanks.
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01-10-2020 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 3Poker
I just downloaded the pokerstars software onto my macbook pro (mid 2009 13 inch, using os x el capitan). When I first opened the program and went into the settings to change the table theme and felt color there was a whole bunch of different options. For the felt color I was able to pick any color imaginable from a color wheel. I saved a few of colors I was going to use while playing. It also gave me the option to choose from a whole bunch of different table themes.



After messing around with the different options I closed the program and reopened it about 30 mins later and all of a sudden all of the different table theme and felt color options are gone. I now only have about 9 different stock felt colors to choose from and like 4 different table themes. Not sure what happened to all the other options. It also seems like the sounds; chips, cards being delt and bet/fold noises have changed as well (not sure about that though). I tried deleting the software and re-downloading it but its still the same.



Im curious, does everyone have about 9 different felt colors to choose from or can you pick any color you want? Anyone know how I can get all those options back? Thanks.
Disable the Aurora graphics... I had the same problem, drove me crazy until i figured it out.
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01-10-2020 , 05:54 PM
Does HUD work on PA i can track hh but my hud won't load on the tables
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01-10-2020 , 10:20 PM
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I played online poker from 2002-2013. This software is modern, but it still sucks in the sense that it's not as good as PS and FT from 2011.

I dunno who has what experience here, but PokerStars for PA only is something I appreciate, but I'm not blind. I know how we got here. This site is a joke and online poker in general is treated like a running joke. Just look at the service here. They aren't printing money like they'd like and they're running the place like a WalMart. There's still no rep to commandeer this thread and make it official. It's just a bunch of randos posting issues and literally getting no help from anywhere, because they don't want to cater to us

I can understand a possible sentiment in that regard, but it just is what it is. Are we actually going to merge w the other pools? The fact that PA ring fenced itself makes me think 1) these people have no idea how online poker works, nor care, the money is obviously not in poker and 2) they're operating in the same fashion that destroyed the amazing meritocracy that once existed pre UIGEA via protectionism

I can't tell if this is just some optimal unhappy medium that is best for profit margin within the rules of the political game of today, or these people just don't have a ****ing clue what they're doing

Online sites make money from new deposits (semantically speaking, losing players pay all rake), and sustained games to churn those deposits into rake (the ideal setup is fast play among exactly equally skilled opponents...nobody wins, trade pots as often and as fast as possible, "break even" and ultimately drain all chips to rake)

So part of me does get the flashbacks to old school, pre UIGEA poker where we could deposit/withdraw instantly w PayPal, but the player pool is miniscule, a joke, and would still be a joke merged w the tiny jurisdictions that are currently explicitly legal

The other part of me is reminded that this could be a federally legal venture, a possibly trillion dollar industry (maybe even dwarf Europe?), create a shitload of jobs and tax revenue, a more efficient economy (and a healthier, better funded, safety net to deal with addicts), I could probably keep going. We could link up w ROW or ring fence it to America I suppose that would be a healthy debate, but the fact is these tiny pools suck so bad. It's nice now, but this will not last I don't care how many colleges there are. A bigger critical mass would be orders of magnitude better. A true free market approach. What we have now is contrived, nonsensical bullshit. Can you tell I'm still bitter about Black Friday? lol...honestly, I am

It just feels like this is a continuation of government ruining **** just so certain players can line their pockets, picking winners and losers, and walling off all the avenues that lead to what could be a monstrous industry, a large piece of a growing pie for all competitors (which is also better for us consumers and especially us who would like to play for a living)...instead we currently have one player eating the entirety of one tiny pie. And the only other upgrade we might get is that other tiny pie with a few players? Le sigh...
This^^^^^^

Oh, and can anyone tell me anything about how to use Skrill to deposit on this site. PokerStars PA can’t tell me because I’ve already sent them 6 messages over the course of 5 weeks and no response.
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01-11-2020 , 06:34 PM
guys i think you fail to realize that even ROW pokerstars doesn't respond to emails for 4-6 weeks. it's abysmal. i personally waited 2 months for my account to be reinstated after they asked me for documents again
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01-12-2020 , 09:54 AM
Anyone know which of the sites not running yet will have the lowest rake/ high rakeback? Also which would be the best for heads up cash?
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01-12-2020 , 10:15 AM
I am also in the camp where all of a sudden, that past Friday, I am unable to be geo-located. I've been able to connect fine since launch. Support says there is nothing I can do, they are aware of it, and are working on the issue, but cannot provide any kind of timeline when it will be resolved.

They've told me my account has not been frozen. I am able to be geo-located by all the other sports books/apps for PA. When on mobile, I turn off my wifi and am connecting through Verizon Wireless, I still cannot be geolocated on Stars/FoxBet.

Doesn't make sense. Anyone know how long I'm looking at waiting or there's probably no way you can know. I'm just going to bug the **** out of their support on a daily basis.
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01-12-2020 , 05:32 PM
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Anyone know which of the sites not running yet will have the lowest rake/ high rakeback? Also which would be the best for heads up cash?
Pretty sure the highest tier rb% in NJ is around 30-32% for wsop (888) and borgata (party). Stars has the worst rakeback system as they throttle down winning and high volume players to a mere fraction of that.

When wsop first launched in NJ they offered 80% rakeback for 4 full months as a promo, which would be sick. I would shift all of my volume away from Stars if they came in with something like that right off the bat.
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01-12-2020 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by apology7
Pretty sure the highest tier rb% in NJ is around 30-32% for wsop (888) and borgata (party). Stars has the worst rakeback system as they throttle down winning and high volume players to a mere fraction of that.

When wsop first launched in NJ they offered 80% rakeback for 4 full months as a promo, which would be sick. I would shift all of my volume away from Stars if they came in with something like that right off the bat.
Thanks bro. Good info.
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01-12-2020 , 08:20 PM
My black chest just went from 30475 points to 57450, Is there a way to make it go down?

Is it gonna go up again?

Looks like if you're a winning player you get punished :/
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01-12-2020 , 08:57 PM
2100 players online now. Pretty impressive and most I've personally seen there.
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01-12-2020 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by apology7
Pretty sure the highest tier rb% in NJ is around 30-32% for wsop (888) and borgata (party). Stars has the worst rakeback system as they throttle down winning and high volume players to a mere fraction of that.

When wsop first launched in NJ they offered 80% rakeback for 4 full months as a promo, which would be sick. I would shift all of my volume away from Stars if they came in with something like that right off the bat.
WSOP also has a reload bonus about every month which clears at 20% and Borgata used to have an extra program based on how much you rake every month, idk if they still have it or if you included that.

Only thing better about Stars is that they rake 1c per 20c and the other sites take 1c at 18c.

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My black chest just went from 30475 points to 57450, Is there a way to make it go down?

Is it gonna go up again?

Looks like if you're a winning player you get punished :/
Yeah, Stars sucks. Don't know if it goes down, when another site opens I am going to fall back down to Diamond and see if that helps anything. I've considered opening a table of 2nl or whatever the lowest stake is an VPIPing every hand, no idea if that will help anything.
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