https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...index1181.html
Crosspost from Unibet
(Unibet reps are arguing rakeback may not be possible due to legislation)
Read the whole page and few back for more
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Reply Unibet rep:
Originally Posted by Stubbe-Unibet
It's not as simple as you make it sound
What hollandcasino have done is nothing like rakeback or loyalty. We have done mission style promotions as well. The HC poker boost is capped at €250 and set at less than 15%. To a NL200-400 player it makes no difference (you'll be paying less rake with us, even when the promo is active). We might do something similar in the future, with the mission mechanic
I'm no lawyer and can't comment on this in an official capacity. However, looking at article 2.6, it seems somewhat clear that loyalty is specifically forbidden:
Ook spaarprogrammaÂ’s zelf die zijn gekoppeld aan de deelname van een spel, zetten aan tot doorspelen. Deze programmaÂ’s zijn daarom niet verantwoord als zij gekoppeld zijn aan een kansspel met een hoog risicopotentieel.
Furthermore, there's a long list of restrictions here:
https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/voor-z...isen-bonussen/, as I'm sure you know.
There's of course a reason no one in NL is offering loyalty to the players, apart from GG - hint: Unibet being greedy is not the reason Bet365 and Hollandcasino don't offer loyalty.
I of course agree it looks a bit odd with the current GG offering and I'm personally confused how it's been offered for so long without any issues. I guess it's possible that poker is somehow not meant to be affected by the restrictions set forth by the regulator, but that's not a gamble we can make.
Until we're completely sure that our loyalty system would be compliant - if GG's is, ours should be - we won't be switching it on.
NB Sweden, Belgium and Netherlands don't have loyalty. Denmark got a special setup.
Reply by me:
Rakeback or flat rakeback, essentially giving back a tiny fee to a player that uses your website shouldn't have to be defined as a "spaarprogrogramma". Its just a cost reduction for loyal customers (the people that play more because they utilize a winning strategy long term). Paying back these fees won't be of much significance to an already losing poker player, and certainly not be the main drive for them to play more. You're misapplying the legislation for what/who it's meant for, which is why gg is right to allow for cashback.
You, in fact, could argue your missions in it's current form which are offered to Dutch players, are much more incentivizing to keep on playing. And even playing while being out of your comfort zone (different types of games players may not have the skillset for/familiar with), just to unlock tickets which increase in value the more games are played. How is this in accordance to the legislation and rakeback is not?
The legislation is simply allowing for loyalty programs...
quote "Als aanbieder van kansspelen mag u bonussen aanbieden aan spelers. Bonussen (ook spaar- en loyaliteitsprogramma's vallen hieronder) zijn een reclameactiviteit. Dit betekent dat de algemene regels ten aanzien van reclame- en wervingsactiviteiten(verwijst naar een andere website) ook op bonussen van toepassing zijn."
https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/voor-z...isen-bonussen/