$25 per week minimum, not month IIRC.

IMO, I would like Amaya to make changes so online poker was more like live poker in that success gets determined by what I call, traditional poker skill. Getting money for massive volume doesn't qualify. Installing tracking software and a HUD doesn't qualify so I hope they get rid of that next. There is plenty of skill in learning how to use all the data available from tracking software but it's not traditional poker skill. It's like, if they allowed bots, the person who could design and program the best bot would be the best poker player.

I'm not sure if it's feasible but it would be nice if I didn't have to play people who can survive on $10/day which enables them to grind super tight. I would like opponents with similar cost of living pressures. Of course, recreationals can still grind super tight no matter what but it just improves the situation imo and makes it more fair. That's just my opinion. I haven't played online in a long time, I just play live now.

If there were a site like above I would certainly play online again, but then, I would only be a net-withdrawer so they don't(and shouldn't) care about me. Then again, I think the above would also draw depositor types. I suspect they hate playing vs tracking software/HUD players.

So you are in favour of removing Spin&Go, Zoom etc. and anything else stars can think up? They are nothing like live poker.

So how are you gonna use your live reading skills for all those live poker tells, in your version of online poker? How about having a HUD instead?

If you are a withdrawer leaving Stars you better bring a depositor with you.

If Party has x number of withdrawers and it increases without depositors increasing, what do you think is going to happen?

I did say, "more like", not "exactly like" which is impossible. You might as well make poker about who can make the best bot.

There are no live reads but there is bet sizing and patterns. How about you watch for them yourself instead of installing a program to do that for you? You can only play 4 tables then? Good.

I should stop bad-mouthing PS.

hands at showdown today:

2-pair: 10/24, including getting stacked 3 times with top two.
sets/trips: 3/7
flushes: 2/4
full houses: 2/5

I haven't been coolered this bad since I was locked inside a freezer.


I'll be somebody's partner. See above.

I've been playing the 6max hypersats since 2007 and I don't ever recall them being rake free?

Partys first rakeback tier is 20% and you need 25 points to get yours first $5. You get 1 point for every $1 raked. The next tier is 50 points for $10.

From what I understood based on my first two weeks, If you are stuck between tiers - for example you finish the week on 49 points, you only get the $5 cashback - you don't get pro-rated for those 24 extra points. This means when you get to a certain point near the end of the week you have to make the decision whether to stop playing or keep playing knowing you are on 0% rakeback unless you have enough time to make the next jump. Stars to be fair will pro rata some of your points at the end of the month if you are close enough. This will make a difference to those at microstakes who move up slowly through the tiers.

Seems just perfect. Best for everyone involved in poker industry is bankruptcy of amaya and folks we are heading there. Let banks pay 5 billions of debt instead of players. Baazov soon will enjoy hospitality of Canadian prison

Chest reward system is disaster. Good idea yep indeed, try to make it fun for rec players, but they failed hard. They must give folks more excitement gifts, as well higher % cash back.
Talking that talk originally created by amaya about depositors/withdrals, like regs are exclusively - ev for business. Well is not that simple. We have extremely popular format spin n go, where like 20 % + games are running by 3 regs. They playing - ev game, making a house Amaya only winner. How many regs deposited few 10k, run for SNE and failed drastically? They were huge depositors. How many regs have over estimated their skills, ability and lost few 10k before checking their ego.

Rake is simple results of running tables and cash on it. Regs create liquidity, games running cause of regs. Sure you need to have net depositorts in first place, but also disillusioned regs, who actually did not beat game, thinking oh is just variance. They were big part of successfully business model. Why not change spin and go format technically in way, huge edge can be achievable between regs. They saving eco system is not good, well why the hell they do not ban huds, make SN anonymous, fight against stables (which btw are the biggest withdrawals, not an avg poor eastern european reg). They could keep SNE, keep a dream alive, and watch how many regs failed on the way to there. Keep poker exciting. Ofc is difficult to fight with massive bots, but hey they just need to change spin formart to 3 max with bounty and antes, making format not attractive for bots. When bounty is won, game is finished, no heads up. Is impossible to solve 3 players game wit antes and bounty. Give SNE for high volume guys, at the same time limit number of tables. So really the best regs can get it. Like 5 % of all regs.

TO KEEP A DREAM ALIVE

Anyway all words are for nothing. Pokerstars will be bankrupt in 1 year. Short their stock and make yourself rich

How do you know you'd be a net withdrawer?

I wouldn't keep playing otherwise. If you like we can count all my past withdrawals against latest deposit.

But you were speaking more of a hypothetical site rather than a specific one as you said:

stop playing plo
its a suckout game

a bumhunting cancer fest on a ****ty software without waiting lists ?

How would we know whether you ever recall them being rake free?

I think you know exactly what I meant but I'll explain again for the hard of thinking.

"I don't recall a time when stars had hypersats that were rake free, despite me playing them since 2007" . This encourages the original poster to give me a little bit more information on the history of stars 'rake free' hypersats.

All regs become depositors with this change .

Party needs to invite 'fishies' not 'regs'
And Pokerstars invites 'fishies' and they throw away 'regs'

We will see what the future brings.

Stars seems to be trying to encourage the modern gamer to come on over and play poker.

Having chests and other cartoon-like graphics and sound effects(knockouts) is an attempt to attract the younger crowd to perhaps be the next generation of poker degenerates.

I don't think it's going to work though. I don't think they're the kind of people who are going to keep on depositing after they lose the initial buy-in and the novelty wears off.

I suspect this was the big surprise that DNegs was alluding to when he said there was an amazing change coming but he couldn't tell us about it. He said this about 2 years ago?

Stars is already hurting as a poker site. I can't even play a 180 man sitngo during off-peak hours...not enough people to get one game going. I remember a time when you could play mass 180 mans 24/7. Sad.

I also wonder what exciting things was referring to Jaime staples on a vlog

That was NLH. I'm even worse at PLO cash games than I at NLH games, so I stay away.

I average about an hour a day on zoom, but I don't play zoom 100-200, so I can't speak to it.

yeah how many 2.5$ 180mans were running like at 3 ET 2-3 years ago? Right now it's about 3-4 games.

Titties!

Well the problem is that now if you look at who are the main shareholders in amaya there are the private funds. There is literally no one now having any interest in grow of the poker. They just want quick buck as soon as possible so it would reflect in the quarterly results and the share price.

Baazov was terrible but at least he was a leader with a clear strategy now there is just "how we can squezz even more profit from our business" type of thinking. I honestly wish some Chinese would finally buy Amaya and take it private.

Imma gonna fire up some MTTs this weekend after not playing poker for a year in support

So much for making the reward system "simpler" and "easy to understand"