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02-20-2018 , 12:58 PM
Agree with TS, I feel like the general public grossly underestimates how many women are whores across the country let alone vegas.
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02-20-2018 , 06:57 PM
There is some cognitive dissonance going on here. Once it became acceptable for unattached women to have casual sex and one night stands for fun, it would actually be stupid for them to tun down relatively big money to do the same thing for financial rather than physical rewards. Its not actually being a typical prostitute since there is no pimp, you can be selective, the money is bigger, and you aren't doing it multiple times per day. What it is should not be looked down upon at all UNLESS you also look down on this modern outlook about the silliness of considering it something special for a woman to agree to sex with a man. But you can't have it both ways.
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02-20-2018 , 07:00 PM
Meanwhile getting back to the stock. I would assume that if the company is not sold, the stock price will depend at least a little on whether Wynn keeps his holdings. He might tell me. Is that insider trading?
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02-21-2018 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Meanwhile getting back to the stock. I would assume that if the company is not sold, the stock price will depend at least a little on whether Wynn keeps his holdings. He might tell me. Is that insider trading?
He has some restrictions that are already known on any sale of stock he might do. It was in the RJ, I think.
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02-21-2018 , 03:06 PM
I was in the poker room last night and the room manager says they will not remove the Wynn signature from the building and everyone expects Steve to keep his holdings. Not exactly a rock solid source but thats what he said.

David makes a good point about the nature of modern female sexuality and the biases in this thread. If a woman wants to have sex with someone it isn’t prostitution regardless of whether or not there is an exchange of some sort of value. The % of Wynn employees who would have sex with their boss when they don’t want to (because they feel like their job is otherwise in jeopardy or because they need the money so badly) is very small. I don’t know how many women would choose to sleep with someone of their own free will, with or without compensation, and I don’t care.

The reason why labeling a woman as a “whore” if they choose to do so is sexist and misogynistic should be obvious. No such label exists for men who to choose to have sex for reasons other than love or procreation. It matters because the label is harmful. Nobody wants to marry or date a whore, nobody wants to hang out with them or work with them. Nobody wants them in their family.

That’s why people who express such opinions are stone garbage. And there is garbage in this thread.
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02-22-2018 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Agree with TS, I feel like the general public grossly underestimates how many women are whores across the country let alone vegas.
I am going to guess that you each have have lots of trouble with the ladies.

Ts’ link about Mexican women being whores is hilarious. He’s a white supremicist. He has lots of anger towards women and people he views as lazy. Lots of people on 2p2 share this view.

It’s a sad life for him and people like wil(rip). If you can’t get girls it’s not because they are whores and you have no money(lol), it’s because you suck at getting girls.
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02-22-2018 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
There is some cognitive dissonance going on here. Once it became acceptable for unattached women to have casual sex and one night stands for fun, it would actually be stupid for them to tun down relatively big money to do the same thing for financial rather than physical rewards. Its not actually being a typical prostitute since there is no pimp, you can be selective, the money is bigger, and you aren't doing it multiple times per day. What it is should not be looked down upon at all UNLESS you also look down on this modern outlook about the silliness of considering it something special for a woman to agree to sex with a man. But you can't have it both ways.
You might be thinking about this sideways in a couple of ways. No one (this is Vegas we are talking about) is upset with women who are happy to make an economic exchange. No one (other than some puritans) would be upset* if he politely asked or sought some sort of sign that his advances were ok.

He did the equivalent of tea-bagging a dude at the gym because the dude was doing bench presses and therefore asking for it. That is kind of the opposite of cool.
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02-22-2018 , 02:23 AM
Using the term whore reeks of bitterness, but who really thinks that women are so mindlessly principled as to refuse any amount of money?

The allegations don't seem to be about simple propositions though - it's that he coerced them into doing it while on the job.
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02-22-2018 , 12:14 PM
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I am going to guess that you each have have lots of trouble with the ladies.



Ts’ link about Mexican women being whores is hilarious. He’s a white supremicist. He has lots of anger towards women and people he views as lazy. Lots of people on 2p2 share this view.



It’s a sad life for him and people like wil(rip). If you can’t get girls it’s not because they are whores and you have no money(lol), it’s because you suck at getting girls.


Lol I do very well, not sure how you would come to that conclusion especially given the context. You can’t imagine the things I’ve seen girls do over the years, and this includes very well respected, professional women. My view is based entirely on personal experience. It could just be that I’m running hot, idk. Spend a couple weeks on tinder in a major city and let me know if your view changes.
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02-23-2018 , 12:56 AM
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No such label exists for men who to choose to have sex for reasons other than love or procreation.
Pretty sure they're called "**** boys"
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02-23-2018 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Lol I do very well, not sure how you would come to that conclusion especially given the context. You can’t imagine the things I’ve seen girls do over the years, and this includes very well respected, professional women. My view is based entirely on personal experience. It could just be that I’m running hot, idk. Spend a couple weeks on tinder in a major city and let me know if your view changes.
Maybe I am misinterpreting your vague brag, but you seem to be defining a whore as a woman who sometimes participates in casual sex or has sexual kinks, which is a dumb definition of whore.
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03-02-2018 , 03:06 AM
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I suspect you haven't experienced much of anything. You come in here to provide backup for someone who opened with nasty personal abuse ("sexist" and "ignorant"), claimed expertise, then self-owned so badly they're too cowardly to come back after destroying their claimed credibility.

I mean I get that you have your team's back but your chimpanzee attempts to screech to distract from the clan member's self owning is transparently stupid and completely ineffective.

No, Irie clowned on him/herself by showing a stupendous ignorance of the world around him, despite claiming to work in female health in Vegas. This is obvious to everyone here. It's right there in black and white. I didn't even have to do much except post the facts to demonstrate that ignorance.


I'm not alt-right and I like them about as much as the alt-left liberal weirdos such as yourself. They're cut from the same groupthink cloth as your team. Some people will never escape the tribal chimpanzee part of their brain and have thoughts of their own.

So it’s been a week or so and your posts haven’t aged well. Shocking!
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03-02-2018 , 07:19 AM
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So it’s been a week or so and your posts haven’t aged well. Shocking!
The post was timeless and it ages well. The fact that you are too dense to even understand what's being discussed here isn't my problem.

And dude, you're a weirdo. I let you have the last word for the sake of the thread but that wasn't' enough for you, you have some weird obsession with me. So, your choice. We should probably just ban these politics losers who are mentally ill and contribute nothing to BFI.
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I am going to guess that you each have have lots of trouble with the ladies.
This says everything about you. No one who's ever lived any kind of life thinks there's any correlation between thinking a decent percentage of women are willing actual whores (a true statement backed by facts I've posted above), and not getting any. The opposite is true. People who've seen quite a lot have a much less charitable view of female virtue, because, you know, they've seen quite a lot.

Not knowing this, thinking you have some soul read above, is just comical, dude. Your comments are what I'd expect from a 22 year old virgin in their mother's basement, not a grown human being. WTF is wrong with you?
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Ts’ link about Mexican women being whores is hilarious.
It's hilarious that children get raped en masse and their parents let them in order to advance their economic status? You and I have different views of hilarious. I mean, I knew you were a full blown creeper from your small mind and tendency to obsession, but there was no need to put it on display.
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He’s a white supremicist. He has lots of anger towards women and people he views as lazy. Lots of people on 2p2 share this view.
Again, I post facts, you post invective to distract from facts. That means you're losing the debate. So far you haven't posted a single correct read. That's equal parts sad and funny.
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It’s a sad life for him and people like wil(rip). If you can’t get girls it’s not because they are whores and you have no money(lol), it’s because you suck at getting girls.
Dude, wtf? I trades derivatives for a living while traveling the world. I have more money than 98% of people my age. You would know that if you actually read BFI rather than coming here to tard up the place, tilting at windmills against imagined evildoers.

Your creepy white knighting of women is pretty sexist and patriarchal, robbing them of agency and nuance. Newsflash: plenty of women are willing whores and all kinds of other things, and in Vegas the numbers are far higher, making up a large percentage of the population. We know this from actual hard data. There are 30,000 practicing whores in Vegas pulling in billions every year, which means far more than even this huge number who would do it discreetly or for large gain or to advance their employment. It's like the whore capital of the world. You would know that if you had an actual functioning brain or had any inkling about how much of the world worked.

By the way, it's a settled question that money is the single most important trait to women after around 25:



How do you think billionaires go on that scale?

I'm laughing at you dude.
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03-03-2018 , 02:45 AM
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No one who's ever lived any kind of life thinks there's any correlation between thinking a decent percentage of women are willing actual whores (a true statement backed by facts I've posted above), and not getting any.
The words not in parenthesis are true. But their truth has nothing to do with whether woman are sluts. In other words it has nothing to do with whether the guy is correct or not about women. Rather it has to do with the fact that most woman are turned off by timidity. And it just so happens that if you think a lot of woman are whores it will tend to lead you to a frame of mind that to women looks like "confidence".

This is not just a theoretical point. I have witnessed "ladies men" with shy male friends help them score by telling their friend that most women are whores even though they know they are lying. And the trick worked. So in other words TS is technically correct but it isn't because those who know a lot about the world use that knowledge to get woman. Every woman could be close to a saint yet the guys with low opinions of them will on average fare better in spite of their inaccuracies.
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03-03-2018 , 09:57 AM
That’s a great post and 100% spot on based on my experience
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03-03-2018 , 10:09 AM
The core reason is that women's personalities on average are more agreeable, and instinctively are subservient to a stronger will, and have far lower resistance to attempts at hacking their mind. It's not really so much about not liking timidity as that most women have no clue what they want and will quickly become subservient to those who show strength and manipulate them. It's a bit like fighting - if you don' try to punch someone in the face and just play defense, you're probably not gonna win. Female minds instinctively reject men who can't land a punch past their weak defenses.

This natural agreeableness and subservience is one reason why women on average are such deplorable cowards (viewed objectively - not subjectively) who rarely report rape or sexual harassment - and would prefer other women to be raped by horrible men than do the right thing and stand up to them. And it's not a case of poverty or economic power - half the powerful, wealthy actresses in Hollywood had been groped or raped by Weinstein, and no one said a word for decades. It is female psychology.

We should be teaching women from the time they're young that it's despicable and cowardly behavior to not report sexual assault. They need to be shamed into not being selfish. That is actually the best way to diminish sexual predation. I'm a big fan of the Me Too thing for the fact that is, finally, teaching women to not be horribly selfish cowards who think of themselves and their own shame over protecting their rapist's next victim.

Ironically, the right way to combat this, like everything (black poverty and crime, poor people in other countries) is precisely the opposite of the what the destructive, deplorable left wingers want to do. Me Too is one of the first things they've done that actually aligns with sensible behavior. Guys like Wynn have been sheltered by left wing thinking for far too long.

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03-04-2018 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
The words not in parenthesis are true. But their truth has nothing to do with whether woman are sluts. In other words it has nothing to do with whether the guy is correct or not about women. Rather it has to do with the fact that most woman are turned off by timidity. And it just so happens that if you think a lot of woman are whores it will tend to lead you to a frame of mind that to women looks like "confidence".

This is not just a theoretical point. I have witnessed "ladies men" with shy male friends help them score by telling their friend that most women are whores even though they know they are lying. And the trick worked. So in other words TS is technically correct but it isn't because those who know a lot about the world use that knowledge to get woman. Every woman could be close to a saint yet the guys with low opinions of them will on average fare better in spite of their inaccuracies.
the attitude that women are a bunch of sluts will lead to success... with sluts. women actually want a dangerous man that is civilized. when they see a confident man or a "bad boy" they can be confused or misled in to thinking they have found what they are looking for. when they see a guy with no confidence, they are in no danger of making such mistake
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03-04-2018 , 02:56 PM
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the attitude that women are a bunch of sluts will lead to success... with sluts.
With more than sluts. On average, women are prey animals, not people with their own mind, at least when it comes to picking a partner. They'll hop into bed with the first guy who lands a punch past their defenses, triggering the particular parts of their brains that decide a guy is ****able. It's basically a hacking job against a system with weak defenses.

There are some well brought up women who are actually discerning and in control of their lower nature, but they're as rare as men who have the same traits. Certainly the minority.

Men that have a good view of women are not going to try hacking them - they're going to treat them well and assume they'll be met in the middle if the girl likes them. They fail because female brains don't work like that unless you're unusually attractive enough to bypass the defenses. It's not really about women "liking" confidence, that's just a sideshow.
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03-05-2018 , 12:09 AM
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With more than sluts. On average, women are prey animals, not people with their own mind, at least when it comes to picking a partner. They'll hop into bed with the first guy who lands a punch past their defenses, triggering the particular parts of their brains that decide a guy is ****able. It's basically a hacking job against a system with weak defenses.

There are some well brought up women who are actually discerning and in control of their lower nature, but they're as rare as men who have the same traits. Certainly the minority.

Men that have a good view of women are not going to try hacking them - they're going to treat them well and assume they'll be met in the middle if the girl likes them. They fail because female brains don't work like that unless you're unusually attractive enough to bypass the defenses. It's not really about women "liking" confidence, that's just a sideshow.
R/redpill

Good luck truth. Your world is wholly different than mine. I have female friends and I get laid. I feel badly or you and the girls who have to interact with you. Also congrats on joining me in the top 2% for our age!
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03-05-2018 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Agree with TS, I feel like the general public grossly underestimates how many women are whores across the country let alone vegas.
I disagree with both of you believing that it is even loosely related to the topic at hand re: Wynn stock.

Related: Tempting to short BX here, but the cosmo is a small amount of their portfolio
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03-05-2018 , 11:00 AM
So many whores and sluts, yet somehow no one's wife,mother,girlfriend,or adult daughter is one.


To set the record straight, there are likely much fewer than 30,000 working prostitutes in Las Vegas. The number refers to sex workers. "Industry analysts increasingly use sex worker to refer to any worker who sells sex or erotic services, including strip dancers, prostitutes, peep show workers, dominatrixes, adult film actors, and a wide variety of ancillary and support workers in both the real and virtual worlds." Lots of them are strippers.

I would not expect Wynn stock to recover to previous highs no matter what they do.

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03-05-2018 , 12:33 PM
This thread is a nice insight into what garbage human beings we have here on this forum. Would love to get a female posters take (I wonder why there aren't more than a couple lol).
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03-05-2018 , 12:42 PM
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This thread is a nice insight into what garbage human beings we have here on this forum. Would love to get a female posters take (I wonder why there aren't more than a couple lol).
The garbage human beings are the ones who can't see an issue from more angles than the laziest one or the selfishly socially acceptable one. They perpetuate injustice; most socially acceptable beliefs have been repressive and wrong, and the current left wing ones are no exception.

Everything I've posted is spot on the money, both morally and practically and factually. I assume you must be talking about Irie & samsonh.

Why was Wynn successful for so long at being rapey? Because we teach women to internalize shame and victimhood rather than to act with courage and principles. It's that simple.

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03-06-2018 , 02:23 AM
You have a fine skill of triggering so many people on this forum with your choice of words ha but your core point does seem spot on.
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03-06-2018 , 07:08 AM
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To set the record straight, there are likely much fewer than 30,000 working prostitutes in Las Vegas.
The reference I gave (a local newspaper) says 30,000 prostitutes (their word) in Vegas, estimated by officials. Perhaps the reference is fake news. I don't think so however.

Illegal prostitution alone (just prostitution) is estimated at > $3 billion/year revenue in Vegas by multiple sources. At $100 per act of female empowerment, that's 30 million acts of female empowerment = 1000 acts of female empowerment for each of the 30,000 women to make up the number = 3 per day every day per woman, which is probably around correct including time off, quiet periods, etc. So the numbers seem eminently reasonable. That's just active prostitutes, not former ones or willing ones or ones who'd do it when given the opportunity privately with a billionaire, but wouldn't seek it.

And given that 10% of all US women have sold intercourse for money, 30% for Vegas seems expected. Especially working age women.

So I think the facts are on my side and not on yours, or Irie's, who was just clownishly wrong/ignorant despite living there.
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I would not expect Wynn stock to recover to previous highs no matter what they do.
Why do you say this? Opinions are boring/pointless when it comes to stock, but reasoning is interesting.

a) Wynn was the key to a lot of Wynn's success?
b) The scandal will hurt them long term in terms of booking (Irie disagrees)?
c) It's already very overvalued
d) Vegas is in decline if you look at recent earnings of Vegas brands
e) The stock market is the highest it'll go for a long time
f) Some combination? Which?

Do you factor in their Macau operations when making this statement?

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