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08-13-2020 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mephisto
For Canadians: which wallet do you use if you are looking for the least amount of risk that the wallet won’t be hacked/scammed/go bankrupt? Was looking at Kraken.
Kraken is fine as an exchange, but not your keys, not your coins. Get a Ledger Nano or a Trezor.

also, rip yams
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08-13-2020 , 05:25 PM
I only use Kraken for one thing right now... ADA.

I sold off 5k of link when it hit 14.25 ... it immediately went down and I was looking like a genius.... then it shot back up again. Bought back in at 15 and it was well into 18 dollar range today.
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08-13-2020 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMVP
Congrats. With this insane run I hope you booked life changing profit.

I was going to push back but I've called out Tooth for being wrong on literally everything so I guess I have to take the L on this one.

Still think it's a zero.



Hard to take it seriously when you can't even spell staking tho.
Its a meme dumbass. Tooth was actually right about tesla tanking back in march. It went from like 800 or so down to 350 as a low.
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08-13-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Its a meme dumbass. Tooth was actually right about tesla tanking back in march. It went from like 800 or so down to 350 as a low.
Using this incredible logic I'm a certified genius because Link went from $5 or so down to $1.50 in March

Hint: everything in the world crashed in March
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08-13-2020 , 11:46 PM
who tf cares about being right or wrong, lets make that paper
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08-14-2020 , 09:34 AM
What's the story with OXT coin? A friend here keeps talking about and has convinced some other friends to put some money in saying its certain to take off. I'm not buying any of it myself.
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08-14-2020 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Good luck man. We're in uncharted territory so who knows. Steaking hasn't been announced yet for Link so that is yet to come. Also Link is not on Robinhood crypto either.

Sold off my stack at $17.75 and $18.25. I just rebought at $16.60 to increase my stack a small %. I think we could see $25+ for LINK in a few months.

I got extremely lucky to hit the most recent peak, mostly just following the recent patterns. Of course the price will probably tank back to $12 now Virtual Currency - Alt Coin Discussion Thread
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08-14-2020 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brendons31
What's the story with OXT coin? A friend here keeps talking about and has convinced some other friends to put some money in saying its certain to take off. I'm not buying any of it myself.

It’s essentially a replacement for VPN services where you purchase bandwidth from anyone running a node.

Personally, I don’t think this will ever take off for a number of different reasons.

First of all, bandwidth is extremely cheap and will only get less expensive over time as internet connections and network infrastructure improves. Bandwidth is so cheap that many companies provide it for free.

Secondly, there are similar services that are cheaper or free, and easier to use for the average person.

Every node operator needs to compete with each other to offer super cheap bandwidth per token, which will drive prices down.

There needs to be more to the product than just private browsing. You can already get free and private internet usage with 1.1.1.1, Brave browser, DuckDuckGo, etc.
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08-14-2020 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Kraken is fine as an exchange, but not your keys, not your coins. Get a Ledger Nano or a Trezor.



also, rip yams
Oooo maybe not rip yams. Crypto so interesting. Also crv is great.
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08-14-2020 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
It’s essentially a replacement for VPN services where you purchase bandwidth from anyone running a node.

Personally, I don’t think this will ever take off for a number of different reasons.

First of all, bandwidth is extremely cheap and will only get less expensive over time as internet connections and network infrastructure improves. Bandwidth is so cheap that many companies provide it for free.

Secondly, there are similar services that are cheaper or free, and easier to use for the average person.

Every node operator needs to compete with each other to offer super cheap bandwidth per token, which will drive prices down.

There needs to be more to the product than just private browsing. You can already get free and private internet usage with 1.1.1.1, Brave browser, DuckDuckGo, etc.
oh i remember this one too and immediately told myself this is why i shouldn't invest in altcoins

i could see buying them if you're using the product itself but it's neither competitive as a product compared to other vpn services

would require mainstream adoption to be worth investing in as opposed to simply using it and that's just never happening - just like how you heard a ton about brave from all these bloggers and content creators who bought into it making them all millionaires and years later that never happened

brave is literally built on chromium, you're just using a google product dressed up as if it's something new - i like the browser, but it's 100% a scam
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08-14-2020 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
brave is literally built on chromium, you're just using a google product dressed up as if it's something new - i like the browser, but it's 100% a scam
That doesn't make it a scam though, that is by design and they aren't hiding that fact. Chrome is open source and can be used by others: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git

It's one of the few crypto projects with a working product. I think I've earned about $100 this year for doing nothing other than browsing the web, hardly a scam in my book.
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08-15-2020 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
That doesn't make it a scam though, that is by design and they aren't hiding that fact. Chrome is open source and can be used by others: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git

It's one of the few crypto projects with a working product. I think I've earned about $100 this year for doing nothing other than browsing the web, hardly a scam in my book.
1. i'm fully aware of chromium, hence why i knew about brave using it

2. it is indeed very absurd to claim you offer superior privacy when you're just running a skin on top of chrome - this is not what makes it a scam though - bottom line is brave can never outperform chrome nor will it ever offer more privacy than chrome - you're using a google product that communicates with google in the exact same manner that chrome does - https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-privacy - yes, 3rd parties can strip away some of that but it's still a google product and adding a altcoin backed third party as a middle man between you and google makes the data less safe not more safe

i like brave, it's more streamlined and trimmed down version of chrome, but there's zero chance i'm ever logging in to my online banking, paypal, etc on it - not so much out of fear over nefarious deeds over at brave, but mainly because as their users are heavily skewed towards crypto enthusiasts, it's an ideal company to hack and gather user information like stored passwords etc

the notion that brave is safer or more private than chrome when it's simply just chrome but with more layers to exploit or scam added in is just a preposterous idea only supported by pie in the sky altcoin ideology

3. what makes brave a scam is that users can't withdraw the tokens they earn, they can only donate to content creators - they are also by default set up to distribute those tokens automatically, thus you're watching more ads than you otherwise would watch and someone else is getting the benefit - primarily brave browser

4. you didn't passively earn that $100, each time you got a popup and like a trained monkey you clicked it and allowed the new web page to open before closing it, you did that thousands of times to earn that "$100" that you can't even claim unless you then spend a whole bunch of time applying to be a "content creator" and then donate them to yourself

you would have made far more money spending an equivalent amount of time doing online surveys, or doing similar menial labor link click jobs via fiver or mechanical turk

but this is my point, you're able to reason that $100 is made passively despite that you clearly were an underpaid click monkey in order to receive it - you're not viewing brave objectively

i'm speaking as a brave user, i like brave, i just don't fall for their "increased privacy and security" bs nor their "we're going to enrich you and content providers revolutionizing the internet"

it's a trimmed down version of chrome, if you like that then use it, otherwise don't - ideology shouldn't be involved here at all
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08-15-2020 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
It’s essentially a replacement for VPN services where you purchase bandwidth from anyone running a node.

Personally, I don’t think this will ever take off for a number of different reasons.

First of all, bandwidth is extremely cheap and will only get less expensive over time as internet connections and network infrastructure improves. Bandwidth is so cheap that many companies provide it for free.

Secondly, there are similar services that are cheaper or free, and easier to use for the average person.

Every node operator needs to compete with each other to offer super cheap bandwidth per token, which will drive prices down.

There needs to be more to the product than just private browsing. You can already get free and private internet usage with 1.1.1.1, Brave browser, DuckDuckGo, etc.
OK thanks, my first friend who is into his crypto and alt coins is also pretty into his computer programming, and talks about it as if it has the technology to be the better more secure vpn going round. Also talks about the size of the vpn market, and that it just needs a small piece of it to justify it being way undervalued at its current price.

I have no idea if he's right or not about it being a better vpn, also as you said it sounds complicated to the casual vpn user so I think it would have to be considerably better.

I guess the idea is that the better the vpn the more demand it creates for the coin to use it and therefore higher prices, but then surely the higher prices put off new users??

It looks like its up 30% since yesterday though, so I look forward to hearing some I told you so's from the friends who jumped on board.
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08-15-2020 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
1. i'm fully aware of chromium, hence why i knew about brave using it

2. it is indeed very absurd to claim you offer superior privacy when you're just running a skin on top of chrome - this is not what makes it a scam though - bottom line is brave can never outperform chrome nor will it ever offer more privacy than chrome - you're using a google product that communicates with google in the exact same manner that chrome does - https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-privacy - yes, 3rd parties can strip away some of that but it's still a google product and adding a altcoin backed third party as a middle man between you and google makes the data less safe not more safe

i like brave, it's more streamlined and trimmed down version of chrome, but there's zero chance i'm ever logging in to my online banking, paypal, etc on it - not so much out of fear over nefarious deeds over at brave, but mainly because as their users are heavily skewed towards crypto enthusiasts, it's an ideal company to hack and gather user information like stored passwords etc

the notion that brave is safer or more private than chrome when it's simply just chrome but with more layers to exploit or scam added in is just a preposterous idea only supported by pie in the sky altcoin ideology

3. what makes brave a scam is that users can't withdraw the tokens they earn, they can only donate to content creators - they are also by default set up to distribute those tokens automatically, thus you're watching more ads than you otherwise would watch and someone else is getting the benefit - primarily brave browser

4. you didn't passively earn that $100, each time you got a popup and like a trained monkey you clicked it and allowed the new web page to open before closing it, you did that thousands of times to earn that "$100" that you can't even claim unless you then spend a whole bunch of time applying to be a "content creator" and then donate them to yourself

you would have made far more money spending an equivalent amount of time doing online surveys, or doing similar menial labor link click jobs via fiver or mechanical turk

but this is my point, you're able to reason that $100 is made passively despite that you clearly were an underpaid click monkey in order to receive it - you're not viewing brave objectively

i'm speaking as a brave user, i like brave, i just don't fall for their "increased privacy and security" bs nor their "we're going to enrich you and content providers revolutionizing the internet"

it's a trimmed down version of chrome, if you like that then use it, otherwise don't - ideology shouldn't be involved here at all

Points 3 and 4 are completely false.

You can withdraw by connecting a wallet such as uphold which I have done and easily converted to bitcoin. You currently cannot withdraw from the mobile version but you could donate to yourself as a workaround.

You don’t have to click the ads to get paid for them. This has been answered and verified many times by users and the brave team. I can’t remember the last ad I clicked on.
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08-15-2020 , 11:02 AM
that's very interesting that you don't need to click the popup, definitely puts browser in a new light, probably have a hybrid pay per view/pay per click model with the advertisers

nearly all the popups i get are for crypto/options/forex type stuff, kind of terrifying how big of a hacker target their userbase must have knowing this one company stores tens of thousands of auto-login information and cookies for people who actively engage in those services
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08-15-2020 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
that's very interesting that you don't need to click the popup, definitely puts browser in a new light, probably have a hybrid pay per view/pay per click model with the advertisers

nearly all the popups i get are for crypto/options/forex type stuff, kind of terrifying how big of a hacker target their userbase must have knowing this one company stores tens of thousands of auto-login information and cookies for people who actively engage in those services

The security issue is mainly solved by not storing passwords locally and using 2FA. Of course just storing crypto on a ledger/Trevor wallet works too. But for any funds I have on exchanges, using a withdrawal whitelist requiring days to add/change withdrawal methods using 2FA is ideal.

I also wouldn’t be massively worried about hackers targeting the Brave database compared to just targeting old people, celebs, and others actually flashing their net worth.

The latest scams on twitter and other websites which claim to “double your bitcoin” if you send first are working far too well these days.
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08-15-2020 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NuklearWinter
Sold off my stack at $17.75 and $18.25. I just rebought at $16.60 to increase my stack a small %. I think we could see $25+ for LINK in a few months.

I got extremely lucky to hit the most recent peak, mostly just following the recent patterns. Of course the price will probably tank back to $12 now Virtual Currency - Alt Coin Discussion Thread


You normies are never going to make it. 25$ in a few months? It'll probably be 25$ tomorrow morning. Try 100$ and as high as $500-$1,000 in a few months. I havent been here in a couple years, and I am trying to sift back through the pages in 2018 when I was here shilling LINK until I got banned, to add validity to what I am saying here. So I am looking for my posts being copied and pasted when I was replied too. I was laughed at because I told them I came from 4chan. And in a way, I posted knowing that none of the normies here would buy in in any meaningful amounts and then be so upset when they finally saw it moon. Whenever an article on Link popped up every so often on Reddit's cryptocurrency main page, all of us would down vote it until it went off the first page and would call it a scam to keep normies from finding out and getting rich off a coin we found so early.

We all found Link on 4chan biz in mid 2017... here is an article showing how we pooled all our money together in presale links because the ICO you needed 300 ETH just to get in so it wasnt for your average joe to get it on. https://fynestuff.com/chainlink-story-analysis/ .But then Binance listed and all we have been doing is buying 10's of thousand of link throughout 2018-2019.

If you come to 4chan business and investing, your favorite racist anime site, you will see how euphoric we all are. But what youll notice is...even though many of us already have 250k-1 million dollars already...NONE OF US ARE EVER SELLING. Because Chainlink is what is ushering in the 4th industrial revolution. There are dozen of threads going each day, and its been that way every single day since late 2017 while you guys were all buying overvalued shitcoins, not knowing that smart contracts need a decentralized oracle. Don't believe me? go to Warosu . org and use advanced search and go back to late 2017 and you will see the non stop discussion on chainlink and put through the meat grinder to figure out if this was in fact the next big thing, and we figured out that it was

I am here to tell you TO BUY LINK AND NEVER SELL. You guys do not realize that this coin is going into the thousands of dollars. We have done calculations on everything and this coin can go as high as $80,000 although that will be far off if it happens as the netowrk matures, but 5k-10k is easily doable, and $1,000 is FUD... and guess what? We are still never selling at 5-10k per link because we will be staking and become to the new elite. You are buying Bitcoin right now at 15-20$. All of you flipping your poor mans link stacks for 30% and 50% gains are going to kill yourself for not holding.

You guys need to realize that chainlink is not the most valuable asset in crypto, it is the most valuable asset on planet earth, and just crossed the 1,000th rank and is sitting at the 975th most valuable asset on earth as of yeterday.

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08-15-2020 , 02:24 PM
I am also going to be nice and shill you the next one we are all buying into on 4chan that you can get on uniswap and isnt on any meaningful exchanges and has already 30x so far in the last few months. Always follow the memes and weaponized autism on 4chan biz, and the memes on Kleros (PNK) are second to none right now.

We have a memo screenshotted that is circulated on BIZ, that first started off as Bitcoin, etherum and Link (when link was being shilled and fudded), and just recently Kleros was added to it, but I dont know how to post it. This is to shill to new people coming to our community on 4chan who all have the same demoralized feelings about the dystopian world we are increasingly headed to and using LINK and now KLEROS to fight back against this politically correct upside down society.

1ST problem: Prevent double spending.

Solution: BITCOIN - A community consensus mechanism, nodes are incentivized to act honestly to maintain a common, universal ledger system

2ND problem: okay, digital money is awesome, but we need sophistacted contracts with prgrammable business logic, e.g. a bond that pays out based on a preset schedule

Solution: ETHEREUM - an open software platform based on blockchain technology that enables developers to build and deploy decentralized applications (DAPPS) using programmable smart contracts

3RD problem: Okay, but for REAL world use (80% of all smart contract use cases) we need external data inputs to trigger the contract, e.g. did the package arrive, what's the cost of a barrel of oil, what was the rainfall at that location AND we need to be able to fulfill payments via legacy systems (banks, paypal, VISA/MASTECARD)

Solution: CHAINLINK - the chainlink network provides reliable tamper proof inputs and outputs for complex smart contracts on any blockchain using a community consensus model for verifying external data where those validating stake their own collateral as an incentive to act honest.

4TH PROBLEM: Contracts which are purely deterministic are rare. Often there are subjective elements to a contract, e.g....you are a construction company paid in stages on a project. Each stage requires evaluation and sign off by a surveyor using their own judgment to come to their decision. You have a dispute regarding a stage being completed and the client is witholding payment.

Solution: KLEROS (PNK) - a open decentralized online dispute resolution platform bringing justice for all blockchain and game theory bringing fast, affordable, and fair decisions for smart contract disputes.

Like I said, Kleros as 30x since feb, MANY of us Link whales as you can find are hedging 10-30% and even more of our link stacks on Kleros now, because they work together and its the next evolution for smart contracts, and like I said, follow the memes and the memes on kleros are superb just like the memes on link and sergey were superb back in 2018 when NOBODY was talking about Chainlink as youll see if you go back to late 2017 and all of 2018 on warosu. Kleros hasnt even hit any big exchanges yet. And sitting at 15 cents.

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08-15-2020 , 03:02 PM
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OK thanks, my first friend who is into his crypto and alt coins is also pretty into his computer programming, and talks about it as if it has the technology to be the better more secure vpn going round. Also talks about the size of the vpn market, and that it just needs a small piece of it to justify it being way undervalued at its current price.

I have no idea if he's right or not about it being a better vpn, also as you said it sounds complicated to the casual vpn user so I think it would have to be considerably better.

I guess the idea is that the better the vpn the more demand it creates for the coin to use it and therefore higher prices, but then surely the higher prices put off new users??

It looks like its up 30% since yesterday though, so I look forward to hearing some I told you so's from the friends who jumped on board.
Now it's up over 100%, so I'm really going to look like a knob for telling my friends buying onto it is like going to the casino. What would the rise be due to, pump and dump schemes?
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08-15-2020 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Sold some linkies at 16. I've made enough now I think can just hold rest and see what happens. Sergey has done me well. Shout out to all ******s like TheMVP and TomCollins.

FYI there was a guy in this thread shilling link when it was 20 cents. I think Tooth called him a moron lmao.
YUP THAT WAS ME! it was 2 years ago I was shiling and he banned me, didnt really care because I am on 4chan mostly anyway I just wanted to help out any potential lurkers because Im a poker player at heart. Im stil going through back through all the posts from 2018 on here to find my shilling when my posts were capped because my actual posts were deleted. But my name was danmarino13 without the _ at the end of it like I have now on this screen name.

This post isn't going to age well. Chainlink is going into the thousands of dollars per coin. $1,000 is FUD. Buy back in and never sell, that is all you have to do. See my two posts above. Do not sell Chainlink, and start accumulating Kleros immediately. If Link does in fact dump to 10$ Do not even sweat it.

Last year when Link hit 5$ in june it retraced back to $1.80 over the next few months. I lost over 100k in profits on paper, and this is money that I could have definitely used and needed, and didnt sell 1 link and was completely unphased by the 60-70% pullback. Obviously it would have been nice to sell and buy back in lower but I am not a trader and all of us on 4chan biz know of the singularity...which means link can rocket very very very high virtually overnight based on liquidity drying up from staking, so with how dumb I normally am I knew that something like that could happen if I messed arund with trading. Regardless though, I didnt sell and didnt care about the retracement because I know exactly where Link is going.

Does tooth still post here? I'm very happy that he called me a moron, and glad he didnt buy when he could have easily got 10's of thousands for cheap

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08-15-2020 , 09:24 PM
And Toothsayer, if you are still out there...i wasnt just some random coming to shill chainlink under the the name dan marino 2 years ago. I was on 2+2 for years and you know me. Silver_man2 wink wink. But take my advice this time. Buy some kleros this time around on uniswap and you will get up to a big boy stack like us OG Linkmarines on 4chan biz

It has been rocketing up CMC and about to crack the top 100...and will be top 20 soon, and ultimately top 5.
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08-15-2020 , 10:59 PM
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I think you may have answered your own question there

piles and piles of dumb money
If you think whats moving Link bilions in MC is idiot retail investors with 300$, you got another thing coming. There are already idiots on FB and twitter bragging about making a 400$ profit and dumping.

People like them and MVP lost all faith in crypto during the crash. They’re failures in real life, and the only thing they have supporting their fragile egos is the (false) idea that they are smarter than other people. Because of the crash and their middling iq, they came in to the conclusion that crypto is just pump and dumps. This feeds into their ego as they shill trash and dump it on people dumber than they are for minor profits.

Along comes link. Their second or third chance to make it. But they’re too “smart” to fall for crypto again. They know it’s a pump and dump. They look at us the way we look at cRipples - sad delusional ******s. But the number keeps going up. But it can’t go up, because that would mean they are wrong, not as smart as they thought, and they missed their chance AGAIN. When link breaks into the hundreds we are going to see suicides. We are going to see mass shooter type behavior. Their egos are going to be obliterated and the only thing they’re going to have to show for themselves is a fat stack of worthless XRP.

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08-16-2020 , 03:21 AM
What exchange do you recommend for buying Kleros?
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08-16-2020 , 03:39 AM
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What exchange do you recommend for buying Kleros?
Use uniswap. Gas fees suck but just gotta suck it up. select V1 not V2
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08-16-2020 , 04:05 AM
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What exchange do you recommend for buying Kleros?
And if you have the funds some other shitcoins I would recommend considering are RLC, Fantom, Algo, Harmony, Holochain, and RSR, in that order. Holochain is something completely different that has been worked on since before Bitcoin, and can make blockchain obsolete. If these hedonistic boomers (yes one of the founders, a female, is naked in BDSM gear on the internet) at Holo can pull off what they are doing this **** can 1000x in short order, so its worth getting a suicide stack of 1 million because it is cheap and sitting at 8 sats.

Also I did say XRP is worthless above, but I do own a small bag, there are a lot of weird coincidences with XRP, we have these schizos making threads who prophsize all this stuff with XRP and some of it lines up, I dismissed them at first because they would get into religion with their shilling, and I don't know if this was talked about here or not, but the fact that gold, silver and XRP all lined up at 1776 a month or two ago on the same day kind of freaked me out so I bought a small bag just in case there is a reset with XRP included. Gold was at $1,776, silver was at 17.76 and XRP was at .1776 all on the same day.

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