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04-13-2018 , 04:33 PM
Universa Blockchain mainnet launched today. The first of the 'third generation' coins to actually release a working product. Very much under the radar in comparison to Cardano, EOS and Tron. This is the company I alluded to earlier ITT who recently released the world's first wifi hardware wallet (the HODL). Definitely a team that delivers.
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04-13-2018 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by billstraightener
Chuck Bass, I agree with a lot of your points made in this thread, you are crushing it sir.

My current strategy is using the Kelly Criterion and rebalancing / selling off weekly.
Those of you buying and selling daily and weekly...

Aren't you all killing your profit with taxes and fees?
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04-13-2018 , 05:06 PM
Just found out all the Phore I've earned over the last month or so from staking is worthless because they forked the chain and had a "mandatory wallet update" that I was never notified about. Pretty ****ty. It's tough to keep up with all the news and updates when you own a bajillion different coins and don't even want to look at them during a bear market.

Has anyone done the BTC private claim yet? I hate having to give over my private keys. I know I'm supposed to move funds first but it just seems like an unnecessarily risky process when other forks have found safer ways to do it like wallet signatures.
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04-13-2018 , 06:41 PM
CHP down 17% today. There must have been a massive selloff yesterday after it went up 2 cents. I'm still holding but down 80% on that **** coin.
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04-13-2018 , 09:43 PM
We still have a long way to go to even come close to where it was at a few months back.
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04-14-2018 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by billstraightener
Chuck Bass, I agree with a lot of your points made in this thread, you are crushing it sir.

My current strategy is using the Kelly Criterion and rebalancing / selling off weekly.


Fancy going into strat specifics?


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04-14-2018 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nolongeravailable
Fancy going into strat specifics?


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Actually Stratis is coming into a tasty buy zone right now
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04-15-2018 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nolongeravailable
Fancy going into strat specifics?


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I analyze the coins that are available to me on the exchanges which I feel are reputable, coins not on them do not concern me, I do not FOMO when one of them shoots to the moon.

I use Kelly Criterion, (geometric mean) to weigh up the % of crypto bankroll to "bet" on the coin going up.

There is a fantastic book on the Kelly Criterion Called

Fortunes Formula by William Poundstone. Or anything on it By Ed Thorp (of Las Vegas Blackjack Fame). Or there is a Book The Kelly Criterion.

NN Taleb on Kelly Criterion
Spoiler:
There are two methods to consider in a risky strategy.
1) The first is to know all parameters about the future and engage in optimized portfolio construction, a lunacy unless one has a god-like knowledge of the future. Let us call it Markowitz-style. In order to implement a full Markowitz- style optimization, one needs to know the entire joint probability distribution of all assets for the entire future, plus the exact utility function for wealth at all future times. And without errors! (I have shown that estimation errors make the system explode.)

2) Kelly’s method (or, rather, Kelly-Thorpe), developed around the same period, which requires no joint distribution or utility function. It is very robust. In practice one needs to estimate the ratio of expected profit to worst- case return– dynamically adjusted to avoid ruin. In the case of barbell transformations, the worst case is guaranteed (leave 80% or so of your money in reserves). And model error is much, much milder under Kelly criterion. So, assuming one has the edge (as a sole central piece of information), engage in a dynamic strategy of variable betting, getting more conservative after losses (“cut your losses”) and more aggressive “with the house’s money”. The entire focus is the avoidance of gambler’s ruin.
The first strategy was only embraced by academic financial economists –empty suits without skin in the game — because you can make an academic career writing BS papers with method 1 much better than with method 2.

On the other hand EVERY SURVIVING speculator uses explicitly or implicitly method 2 (evidence: Ray Dalio, Paul Tudor Jones, Renaissance, even Goldman Sachs!) For the first method, think of LTCM and the banking failure.
Let me repeat. Method 2 is much, much, much more scientific in the true sense of the word, that is rigorous and applicable. Method 1 is good for “job market papers”
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04-15-2018 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
Actually Stratis is coming into a tasty buy zone right now
I think you're right.
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04-15-2018 , 04:38 PM
This is it ladies and gentlemen. This time tomorrow Verge will announce the 'biggest deal in the history of crypto', I will be a very wealthy man, and finally be recognized as 'the Warren Buffet' of Twoplustwo. It's been a pleasure posting with you.

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04-15-2018 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fear_Itself
Universa Blockchain mainnet launched today. The first of the 'third generation' coins to actually release a working product. Very much under the radar in comparison to Cardano, EOS and Tron. This is the company I alluded to earlier ITT who recently released the world's first wifi hardware wallet (the HODL). Definitely a team that delivers.
Is tbis not a scam coin? One of the main things they tout is partnership with McAfee.
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04-16-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFeelNothin
Is tbis not a scam coin? One of the main things they tout is partnership with McAfee.
I saw a documentry on McAfee and it made it out like he was pretty much a murderer and a rapist. I am not sure if it were all true but it seemed pretty legit. But that does not matter, because he runs a company that writes viruses and then tries to sell antivirus software. With that being said I would buy a coin that partnered with him. He seems like a pretty smart business guy.
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04-17-2018 , 10:24 AM
This verge thing is hilarious. I found some livestream of verge megatards awaiting the announcement and their euphoria and despair 10 minutes apart was pure gold.

#vergina
#thefappening

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04-17-2018 , 10:31 AM
pornhub are such a band of trolls.
not a bad endorsement for such a **** coin
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04-17-2018 , 11:48 AM
this pornhub thing has got me thinking about these cam girl sites (**********, etc) that already have a token economy.

what would happen if ********** did an ICO and decentralized their tipping token? the camgirls would have to change their prices daily due to fluctuating value and they would be annoyed when the price of the coin crashes. the camgirls become bagholders!

i don't understand how these payment tokens have any utility at all, seems like you need stable currency to do business.
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04-17-2018 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
this pornhub thing has got me thinking about these cam girl sites (**********, etc) that already have a token economy.

what would happen if ********** did an ICO and decentralized their tipping token? the camgirls would have to change their prices daily due to fluctuating value and they would be annoyed when the price of the coin crashes. the camgirls become bagholders!

i don't understand how these payment tokens have any utility at all, seems like you need stable currency to do business.
They are more like a necessary evil of having value and incentives inside a decentralized system. Or rather, the price volatility is the necessary evil.

If competing, centralized alternatives are superior for every use case and every user, then there is no point to the decentralized system and token. That is the case for most utility tokens, and even when it isn't, if there is already a competitor in the space, they still have to deal with barriers of entry and the scattered leadership of their decentralized structure.

I think utility tokens in general, and in every single case I know of, are grossly over valued. And if one actually did see a lot of sustained use, outside of speculation, the price would still trend towards zero, because of how the entire system is set up. Users won't care, but speculators will eventually lose their investment.
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04-17-2018 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
this pornhub thing has got me thinking about these cam girl sites (**********, etc) that already have a token economy.

what would happen if ********** did an ICO and decentralized their tipping token? the camgirls would have to change their prices daily due to fluctuating value and they would be annoyed when the price of the coin crashes. the camgirls become bagholders!

i don't understand how these payment tokens have any utility at all, seems like you need stable currency to do business.
It's called spank chain. They use a system called proof of spanking and its actually not a bad project
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04-17-2018 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fear_Itself
I've gone ALL IN on XVG. Massive noob move, but my logic is millions of other noobs will FOMO price up in anticipation of the 'huge announcement' later this month. Even if 'one of biggest deals in the history of crypto' which could make Verge 'not just a top 3 coin, but THE coin' doesn't live up to the hype, I plan to cash out incrementally as the announcement approaches and leave a stack on Binance ready to insta-sell before the dump. Best case scenario Sunerok delivers exactly what he's promised and the price spikes above the December all time high.



Any poker pros care to comment on the body language? My read is confident, relaxed, assertive - not bluffing. But what do I know?
https://imgur.com/a/IRerV

****ing printed with this move
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04-18-2018 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
pornhub are such a band of trolls.
not a bad endorsement for such a **** coin
This is fantastic

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04-18-2018 , 11:10 AM
TRIG

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04-18-2018 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackJackDegen
If Coinbase do implement it then great. It is the perception though of what the markets thinks it will add that I am immediately interested in to ride the waves. BAT currently serving that purpose very nicely.
Brian Armstrong giving some signals on twiiter that BAT is coming. Market gone crazy. Lets ****ing go.
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04-18-2018 , 01:52 PM
Porn is a scummy industry and far from a harmless vice. (No fap FTW). However, human nature being what it is, it's pretty undeniable that demand for porn greatly expedited the development of the internet.

Pornhub is the third largest website in the world by bandwith after Google and Netflicks. It has hundreds of millions of users, ranking 33 in the Alexa rankings. Mindgeek (the holding company) have a virtual lock on the entire industry.

This Verge deal is great exposure for Crypto at a time when interest is flagging. If you're sad and desperate enough to pay for Premium content or webcam girls, then surely it makes more sense to do so with an anonymous crypto payment rather than signing up with your credit card (exposing your identity and leaving a trail of evidence in your bank statements). This is a classic 'use case'. Expect the entire internet adult industry to accept Crypto in the near future.
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04-18-2018 , 05:36 PM
Cryptos are traceable tho.
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04-18-2018 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Cryptos are traceable tho.
I am sure soccer moms all around the country are going to figure out how to trace verge transactions. You seem to be missing the poing entirely although I to am skeptical that this will make much of an impact.
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04-19-2018 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFeelNothin
Is tbis not a scam coin? One of the main things they tout is partnership with McAfee.


They’re claiming 20k+ TPS. Confirmed scam/lies
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