https://electrek.co/2017/07/31/tesla...-bmw-3-series/



The interior is really growing on me now =)

Ya. That is so ugly only a mother could love it.

heltok,

I like that snippet. That price comparison is for a car that doesn't exist yet.

Would be dumb to sell cheaper versions. The first million people will pay up anyway. They would sell teslas for $40k, and see them resold for $50k in second hand markets.

His quote gives the impression that the Model 3 is cheaper and "better". He omitted the bottom part where it clearly states the comp they gave out doesn't exist yet.

Think there will be big movement today after hours?

http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...er_2017-2Q.pdf
=)

How could anyone look at that picture and think the Tesla looks better?

I think it looks way better... but I am a huge fan boy.

I guess it's a matter of taste. But it seems a lot of people like it. It is a big difference in the number of buttons and dials, I like it when companies are willing to be different. Who knows, maybe in a few years we will look back at car interiors as we today look back at smartphone design.

I prefer the BMW interior due to more premium materials and a properly placed dashboard. But if BMW had fewer dials and Tesla's simpler design, I'd like that even more.

Man this huge Tesla pop on what accounts to essentially zero if not bad news is kind of amazing

It's people looking at the bottom eps line. They beat expectations so people bought.

News was pretty good actually. Everything is on track, net increase of model 3 deposits after launch, margins on S/X increased indicating, demand is solid on s/x and increased in July leading up to model 3 launch. Which was a concern but it appears that the overall attention increase that Model 3 brings makes up for any 3 Osborne effect so far. Model Y is coming sooner and they will be using 3 architecture to make is easier/cheaper to start up. And it looks like Tesla will continue to be one of the fastest growing companies post IPO in history for at least another 5 years.

Superior head/leg room in both front and back and more storage space vs bmw 3 series.

Jesus christ that's like going from a 24 inch monitor to a Galaxy S3 screen. It's like the epidemic of web design AIDS where what used to be on one page is now compartmentalized into 50 tiny places for tablet and phone tards, only worse because the space is still there unused. Taking design ideas from a ****ing Toyota Yaris



and making them worse is actually impressively awful.

Nice article compilation of just how impressive the reviews of the Model 3 have been so far, I'm surprised they have been this unanimously positive: Reviewers of Tesla’s Newest Vehicle Are Unanimous: “The Model 3 Has No Competition”

Electric cars are wonderful. Which is why Tesla is drawing stone dead. All of what wows people has nothing to do with what Tesla does and everything to do with a large battery pack. The Model 3 and its "redneck found an iPad and stuck it on his car scrounged from parts" look is proof of that.

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/08/...ties/#comments

search 'electric vehicle realities ft.com' in google if you want to read it for free from the website For some reason it comes out messed up if I copy it here.

Actually article makes three mistakes. Degradation of battery is less than 10% after more than 200k miles for model S so far (actually tested). Not between 10-40% after 100k miles.

And power generation in a oil power plant is way more efficient than in a car engine. All said and done, cost per km in fuel is less than half of what you would pay at the pump.

Finally, regular cars have become much much cheaper to produce in the past few decades due to automation. But you don't see it because they load them up with new features so the price does not go down.

The article says 10-40% over warranty period, which is 100k miles or 8 years. 10% is obviously on the low end of the scale but still seems to be within the envelope since battery would also degrade on the age front alone.

That said, there is no doubt Tesla's batteries are extremely high quality and unlikely to be the limiting factor in the life of a Tesla vehicle for at least within the warranty period. That really isn't a problem until early-mid 2020s when Tesla owners realize their cars have very resale value. (not a problem for Model S buyers, but model 3 buyers will care)

PS: my wife, who describes sports cars as dicks on wheels wanted a Tesla after seeing one.

Yeah that is true, but she tried to make it look like this was true for EV batteries in general. Which is kind of dishonest.

https://electrek.co/2017/08/04/vw-br...in-competitor/

Seems like Musk keeping his word. No new equity fundraising. Just junk bonds. BIMO.

Bloomberg is reporting 5% is rate Tesla is getting and there is plenty of demand. More good news for bulls, bears wrong as usual.

Musk brought his charm offensive to the debt market at a meeting for bond buyers in Manhattan on Monday and came away with orders for $600 million after just a few hours, according to investors briefed on the matter. The session was part of a four-day debt-marketing extravaganza aimed at raising $1.5 billion to support the electric carmaker’s new mass-market Model 3.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ebt-with-dream
Looks like i was being too conservative, Tesla already transitioning to being able to raise money without dilution.