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04-13-2021 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by theviolator
Based on current price action on no news whatsoever I am resigned to the fact that TSLA will become the largest market cap company in the world with most years growing share price 50%+. I will not invest a dime into this scam despite this acknowledgement
Pretty insane to not invest into something you know is gonna go parabolic. I'll buy the shares you don't. Also it's not a scam. Company makes great products - and I will continue to support them.
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04-13-2021 , 07:40 PM
lots of companies make great products. very few of them are worth ~$850b...
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04-13-2021 , 07:52 PM
Yeah, even if you concede that they make fun cars, what does that have to do with them being half the value of Google or Amazon?

They just make cars
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04-13-2021 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Yeah, even if you concede that they make fun cars, what does that have to do with them being half the value of Google or Amazon?

They just make cars
The technology and batteries! Elon Musk is pretty much a walking meme. Also, bubble value aka greater fool theory. Also Tesla owns Bitcoin.

Not gonna lie, I actually wouldn’t be too surprised if Tesla became number 1 on the S&P 500. My puts are looking pretty worthless at this point. I don’t know if I will renew them again in July. I’m thinking I probably will.
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04-14-2021 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Also it's not a scam.
o rly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Tesla,_Inc.
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04-14-2021 , 01:45 AM
Anybody who believes musk atp is ripe for joining the branch davidians. He should have his own season on american greed
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04-14-2021 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bip!
Net income is not cash flow though. Amazon always led their quarterly reports with cash flow (not income) and were very explicit and intentional on that front. They did that for a long time (like well over a decade I think) - And the cash flow was great but always being reinvested / hence poor income / but tremendous growth with huge future income (which is now current)
Ya Amazon pretty much always made a Gross profit on sales. They became the quintessential 'invest in growth story'.

- make 10 widgets profitably take all the profits and invest to expand capacity so you can make 100 widgets
- make 100 widgets profitability and so on and so on

At each stage they pretty much showed that they could make money at the current level, and that investing in growth not only resulting in more closed sales but better margins. So the 'cut, paste, repeat' process always made sense to investors.

Tesla and Uber's models are very different. More of a pure faith leap which is fine but not my type of gamble.



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Originally Posted by coordi
Yeah, even if you concede that they make fun cars, what does that have to do with them being half the value of Google or Amazon?

They just make cars
Investors in Tesla do not think they are investing in 'just a car company' from what I have seen. Most of the moonshot bets are based on what they call 'Convergence'.

Again not my bet at this valuation but if others want to gamble their money...oh well.
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04-16-2021 , 09:42 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...on_any_better/

In this thread, it's very difficult to find a Tesla owner who thinks their smart summon works well.

I don't know how anyone can read this and think that FSD is coming any time soon (<5 years) and work well.
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04-19-2021 , 03:02 AM
Deadly tesla crash sparks 4 hour car fire. Respondershad to call tesla because the battery kept reigniting. Likely on auto pilot bc the 2 dead were found in the passenger and back seats. Water probably isn't the best option to put out battery fires

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...ss-tesla-crash
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04-21-2021 , 08:29 PM
What are predictions for TSLA all time highs? August timeframe? Increased competition (all reviews say TSLA inferior to Benz, VW and Ford offerings), daily stories of people burned to death, multiple stories on twitter of cars falling apart with no response and Elon behaviour increasingly bizarre all point to all time highs shortly.
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04-22-2021 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by theviolator
What are predictions for TSLA all time highs? August timeframe? Increased competition (all reviews say TSLA inferior to Benz, VW and Ford offerings), daily stories of people burned to death, multiple stories on twitter of cars falling apart with no response and Elon behaviour increasingly bizarre all point to all time highs shortly.
I’m kind of hoping Q1 report will drop the price. I think it comes out on the 26th. Might not happen though. I think as long as the price remains lofty there is no reason for it to react to much news unless it is significant to the mind of share holders. If Elon Musk died tomorrow the stock might drop 80%. Random Tesla owner self destructs inside vehicle won’t affect anything.

Tesla has a strong brand. Even if other automakers are/become better, Tesla will be on people’s minds when they think of electric vehicles. That is a strong advantage. I think overall people underestimate the risks, but Tesla stock could go much higher in stock price. The sky is the limit until a market crash or the euphoria wears off.

By August, I’ll take a guess of $200. If Q1 is even slightly profitable, I’ll change my guess to $1,150.
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04-23-2021 , 12:43 PM
Well so much for TSLA following bitcoin price theories, it is soaring today on massively down BTC. Nothing can stop this and like I said ATH by August at the latest as the brainwashed will never sell a dime
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04-23-2021 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by theviolator
Well so much for TSLA following bitcoin price theories, it is soaring today on massively down BTC. Nothing can stop this and like I said ATH by August at the latest as the brainwashed will never sell a dime
At this price, Tesla is still in the black on BTC, so it doesn't affect earnings. If the price drops below the price they acquired the coins the market will become more concerned since any sale would create a loss.
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04-24-2021 , 06:47 PM
Elon gonna host SNL may 8... calls or puts?
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04-25-2021 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
Elon gonna host SNL may 8... calls or puts?
He will be terribly unfunny but the stans will still love it. Probably doesn't affect the stonk price much but more likely to be bullish than bearish.
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04-27-2021 , 07:15 AM
My iron condor for april 30 is looking good

680/685 - 800/805 - $2 premium per contract.
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04-27-2021 , 10:33 AM
Iron condor is selling a put and call and owning no shares? When do you start losing on the downside?
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04-30-2021 , 02:47 PM
Flipped 3 710 Tesla puts when they were at 713.50 today for a quick 75%. Lucky timing on the top but missed the bottom
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04-30-2021 , 02:52 PM
TSLA trading like its a crypto play lol

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Originally Posted by djevans
My iron condor for april 30 is looking good

680/685 - 800/805 - $2 premium per contract.
had taken $2 out of a $10 wide iron condor for earnings and decided to wait for expiration and $3.10 max profit. Things got sketchy yesterday but somehow its up today
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Originally Posted by snowie963
Iron condor is selling a put and call and owning no shares? When do you start losing on the downside?
Iron condor is selling a put spread and selling a call spread. Its like a strangle but with defined risk. Defining risk reduces it but also reduces profitability over the long haul. Your risk to either side is your width of the spread less the credit collected
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05-01-2021 , 08:12 AM
This is an extraordinary read: Elon Musk’s War on Regulators

This bit is just weird. After numerous major staff injuries at the Gigafactory, this happened:
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After a series of standoffs over the next few weeks, Nevada OSHA obtained an administrative warrant from a judge on May 20 to perform a comprehensive inspection.

The next morning, an agency supervisor brought the warrant and a sheriff’s deputy along to inspect the plant, according to the sheriff’s body camera footage reviewed by the Journal.

As they waited for a Tesla representative to meet them at the gate, the deputy said he was sympathetic to the OSHA inspectors, the camera footage shows.
Entry denied

“They’re difficult—they’re the same way with us,” the deputy said.

Despite the warrant, a Tesla manager again denied entry.
At this point, if a Tesla manager denies a warrant, you arrest them for obstruction and charge them and break down the door if necessary. You keep going until you gain entry.

Yet here's what happened:

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Tesla met with state political officials including the Nevada attorney general, according to Ray Fierro, a former official with Nevada’s Department of Business and Industry, who attended the meeting.

Officials agreed to let Tesla limit the scope of the inspection while reporting to the judge that OSHA had the cooperation it needed, Mr. Fierro said.

OSHA still hasn’t performed a comprehensive inspection of the plant, the spokeswoman said.
Are officials merely characters in an Ayn Rand novel, spineless again people who push back hard? Is Tesla paying them off? I'm guessing it's the latter, especially in this case. It's hard to explain the same spineless response across multiple agencies without major payoffs. Musk did hire Uber's security team, who are notorious for the kind of corporate espionage/blackmail/threats and payoffs that happened at Uber.
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05-01-2021 , 09:01 AM
lol america, that's some african dictatorship stuff right there
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05-12-2021 , 05:51 AM
huge miss in a growing chinese market and apparently plans for factory extension were scrapped, but then again, the ceo is doing pump and dump schemes on twitter and you will likely be able to buy teslas with dogecoin soon.

so, all in all, maybe net positive?
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05-12-2021 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BooLoo
huge miss in a growing chinese market and apparently plans for factory extension were scrapped, but then again, the ceo is doing pump and dump schemes on twitter and you will likely be able to buy teslas with dogecoin soon.

so, all in all, maybe net positive?
It seems like every quarter there is some negative news surrounding production or deliveries, but then after quarter end, TSLA always reports big numbers. It's hard to trust information coming out of China. I have no idea how to judge the impact of this news.
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05-12-2021 , 07:40 PM
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