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03-14-2021 , 10:58 PM
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Lol, just kidding. I have too much time on break at work with nothing to do. I might buy another put on Monday if I like the price.
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03-15-2021 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Pretty crazy world we live that a massive deliberate obvious lie ("Fully self driving feature complete in 2019"; "1 million robotaxis on the road in 2020") from a proven charlatan runs his company's value up to nearly a trillion dollars because an ocean of idiots believe it's possible.
say the line?

ok sure

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Capitalism ensures the efficient allocation of resources
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03-15-2021 , 12:57 AM
Hey all:

Here is some thoughts that I've not seen discussed in regards to TSLA.

I think that there is some risk that the bulls are NOT pricing in.

At any minute now, there will be self driving TSLA vehicles. No question.

So once those come out and have some time on the road AND get some software updates...what happens if they attain sentience? I don't think there is a 100% chance this happens....but it certainly MOAR than zero. Probably not even 50/50...but there is a significant chance that is MUCH greater than zero. If they are driving themselves, will they have an owner who gets the $? OR do the cars keep it for themselves? What if they don't want to drive 24 hrs. a day?

Will TSLA even be able to keep up with the demand for their cars? If there are 2 buyers for every 1 car produced, the price will go UP.

Lots of interesting things potentially coming up!
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03-15-2021 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
https://youtu.be/L6BGBUfrGIw?t=3710

This guy is going to lose a ton of money. I actually feel bad for him. Has 3000 shares of TSLA and is going big into some options strategies he barely understands.
At first I thought this was an elaborate joke/hoax.

I don't think it is though.

This guy is getting into option strangles for the "free money"!

Holy smokes...if this is not an indication that we are at/near a market top, I don't know what is.

I've done a little option work...mainly selling covered calls on very mundane stocks. It is very, Very, VERY tricky. This guy is doing option strangles on 7 figures? He is some type of engineer and not a quant/math/finance guy? What could possibly go wrong?

he is struggling to explain it...he should know it front/down/round & round. he should be able to speak of it in his sleep...not stumble through it.

I don't think he even has a foggiest clue of how crazy the market/TSLA is.

If option strangles are so simple to make a million $ in, why isn't everybody doing it already?

A lot of people are going to learn some very expensive lessons!
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03-15-2021 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
https://youtu.be/L6BGBUfrGIw?t=3710

This guy is going to lose a ton of money. I actually feel bad for him. Has 3000 shares of TSLA and is going big into some options strategies he barely understands.
jfc christ i made every mistake possible and yet i never went full rtard like this guy

he literally says "that's basically a million dollars of free money"
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03-15-2021 , 01:34 AM
Put half on red and half on black. Free money!
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03-15-2021 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
Hey all:

Here is some thoughts that I've not seen discussed in regards to TSLA.

I think that there is some risk that the bulls are NOT pricing in.

At any minute now, there will be self driving TSLA vehicles. No question.

So once those come out and have some time on the road AND get some software updates...what happens if they attain sentience? I don't think there is a 100% chance this happens....but it certainly MOAR than zero. Probably not even 50/50...but there is a significant chance that is MUCH greater than zero. If they are driving themselves, will they have an owner who gets the $? OR do the cars keep it for themselves? What if they don't want to drive 24 hrs. a day?

Will TSLA even be able to keep up with the demand for their cars? If there are 2 buyers for every 1 car produced, the price will go UP.

Lots of interesting things potentially coming up!
Good luck with incorporating magic into your investment decisions.
You are not alone and it's been working so far.
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03-15-2021 , 01:21 PM
elon changes his title to "Technoking of Tesla" and zach's to "Master of Coin" (for real)
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03-15-2021 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
At any minute now, there will be self driving TSLA vehicles. No question.
Per Elon, taking with a high grain of salt, FSB Beta is going to extend to an even larger pool of people in the next release set to go out end of this week. I'm pretty excited.

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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
So once those come out and have some time on the road AND get some software updates...what happens if they attain sentience?
I'm not sure what this means. This a gross oversimplification but it's just software. The driving and steering logic and decision making should act within the bounds of what's programmed. More likely the Tesla network goes down and disables remote access, or Tesla bricking the vehicle and software because the owner tries to modify it. But sure, remote driving is already available with summon so unauthorized control is a possibility.


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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
If they are driving themselves, will they have an owner who gets the $? OR do the cars keep it for themselves? What if they don't want to drive 24 hrs. a day?
The robotaxi by private owners thing never made sense to me. If you're willing to spend $30k - $60k on a Model 3, why would you want to lease it out? If you wouldn't let 3rd parties drive the car, why would you the car carry someone unassisted? Seems like a huge liability and risk that far outweighs any potential gain.
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03-15-2021 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
At first I thought this was an elaborate joke/hoax.

I don't think it is though.

This guy is getting into option strangles for the "free money"!

Holy smokes...if this is not an indication that we are at/near a market top, I don't know what is.

I've done a little option work...mainly selling covered calls on very mundane stocks. It is very, Very, VERY tricky. This guy is doing option strangles on 7 figures? He is some type of engineer and not a quant/math/finance guy? What could possibly go wrong?

he is struggling to explain it...he should know it front/down/round & round. he should be able to speak of it in his sleep...not stumble through it.

I don't think he even has a foggiest clue of how crazy the market/TSLA is.

If option strangles are so simple to make a million $ in, why isn't everybody doing it already?

A lot of people are going to learn some very expensive lessons!
Read the comments, the scary part is all those people thanking him for the ideas and now they're going to start selling options too
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03-15-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Read the comments, the scary part is all those people thanking him for the ideas and now they're going to start selling options too
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetb...selling_naked/
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03-16-2021 , 02:42 AM
Hey all:

I knew and read that there are some bulls for TSLA. That they think the stock will do well in the upcoming years and are buying at $600, $700, even $800/share.

Of course, most stocks have fans...but it really did not sink in. There are indeed MANY people on the interwebs and especially the YouTube that seriously think that by 2030, TSLA will easily be $10,000/share or more.

I was fascinated by this and listened to one...they think that TSLA will be able to have factories that will make 4MM cars a year EACH. That they will have one in China, Germany and the USA. Of course, by 2030, they will have built other factories that can do this. So TSLA will EASILY be selling MOAR cars/vehicles than F & GM combined.

Then TSLA will be making BILLIONS in net profit off of power. Specifically, they will get paid to store it in massive batteries.

Then they will have millions of self driving cards rolling around....that people will generally stop buying their own cars because it will be cheaper to take a TSLA self driving car.

Then, TSLA will also take over door dash and other delivery services...as the self driving cars are so cheap, there is no way any other competitor will be able to compete with TSLA delivering stuff.

Then there is space. Some asteriods might have TRILLIONS of gold/precious metals in them. TSLA will get a slice of that too.

Finally, these guys also say/think that valuation metrics simply don't/won't matter as it will be a new age.

Unreal....time to start selling everything and raising cash.
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03-16-2021 , 03:19 AM
btw i accidentally clicked page 2 instead of last unread... wow...
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03-16-2021 , 07:27 AM
imagine thinking this software-garbage will ever work as promised on your old tesla tech and paying money for it:

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03-16-2021 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
Hey all:

I knew and read that there are some bulls for TSLA. That they think the stock will do well in the upcoming years and are buying at $600, $700, even $800/share.

Of course, most stocks have fans...but it really did not sink in. There are indeed MANY people on the interwebs and especially the YouTube that seriously think that by 2030, TSLA will easily be $10,000/share or more.

I was fascinated by this and listened to one...they think that TSLA will be able to have factories that will make 4MM cars a year EACH. That they will have one in China, Germany and the USA. Of course, by 2030, they will have built other factories that can do this. So TSLA will EASILY be selling MOAR cars/vehicles than F & GM combined.

Then TSLA will be making BILLIONS in net profit off of power. Specifically, they will get paid to store it in massive batteries.

Then they will have millions of self driving cards rolling around....that people will generally stop buying their own cars because it will be cheaper to take a TSLA self driving car.

Then, TSLA will also take over door dash and other delivery services...as the self driving cars are so cheap, there is no way any other competitor will be able to compete with TSLA delivering stuff.

Then there is space. Some asteriods might have TRILLIONS of gold/precious metals in them. TSLA will get a slice of that too.

Finally, these guys also say/think that valuation metrics simply don't/won't matter as it will be a new age.

Unreal....time to start selling everything and raising cash.
Could these cars be trained to fight wars? I mean for all countries here. If it's affordable enough enough even poor enemy countries could afford to use them. Think about the entire US military, plus every other countries budget going to Tesla?
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03-16-2021 , 02:54 PM
Was just watching an episode of Billions and noticed they took a jab at TSLA.

"They're just like Tesla, just because they're moving units doesn't mean their numbers add up."
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03-16-2021 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
Could these cars be trained to fight wars? I mean for all countries here. If it's affordable enough enough even poor enemy countries could afford to use them. Think about the entire US military, plus every other countries budget going to Tesla?
That is a very good point that I had not even considered! I bet a lot of other people have not thought of that too!

If the cars can drive/fight...could they buy other cars to run? You could have high end cars buying low end cars to make $$$.

You could have whole herds of cars doing all sorts of things.

Riddle me this....what if those cars that are driving and making money start buying TSLA stock? If that happens, TSLA at $700 or $800 would be WAY cheap!
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03-16-2021 , 11:38 PM
Cars buying other cars does seem a bit ridiculous, lol. Maybe see how they do in battle first before running wild with possibilities and expectation.
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03-17-2021 , 12:31 AM
One thing that Tesla really could take advantage of is subscription based services. Most people don’t realize how much subscription based services actually cost them in the long run and gladly pay them. If they can successfully implement this, it would really improve their bottom line.

They already have this to some extent with the FSD (full self driving) subscription. If they can actually get a good product out of the subscription rather than a future promise it could be their money maker. Forget about robo taxis.

Tesla still has a lot of risk. If enough people died as a result of a self driving malfunction it could potentially bankrupt the company. Based on things I’ve read it appears that Tesla has a history of sometimes cutting corners in their testing so something bad like this isn’t that close to an impossibility.
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03-17-2021 , 11:58 AM
A subscription to ludicrous mode
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03-17-2021 , 03:56 PM
They should switch to a freemium model to justify being valued as a tech company
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03-17-2021 , 05:44 PM
I can't wait for the ad-powered cars to hit the market. Get 10 miles for every minute of ad watching.
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03-17-2021 , 08:07 PM
Tesla car in autopilot crashes into Police car.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...cials-say.html

Looks like I was wrong. This kind of thing doesn’t seem to affect the price or cause hardship on the company.
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03-17-2021 , 11:42 PM
Just wait till their autopilot semis start crashing...if they ever get delivered
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03-18-2021 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Looks like I was wrong. This kind of thing doesn’t seem to affect the price or cause hardship on the company.
When you have your aha moment and see behind the curtain, and it suddenly seems so obvious that it’s a fraud/massively overvalued, it’s easy to make the mistake of assuming that the rest of the market will quickly come to the same realization. But keep in mind that the whole reason the stock trades so high is that it’s literally detached from reality. There’s no telling when a crazy person will come to their senses, let alone a whole horde of crazies who have gotten rich drinking the kool-aid.
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