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03-11-2021 , 09:33 PM
Factory on fire rn
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03-11-2021 , 10:00 PM
Someone sold a bunch of shares at 5:05 PM. What happened there? Price dropped to $433.32 and instantly shot up.
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03-11-2021 , 10:09 PM
Probably options exercising AH.
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03-12-2021 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
This. I tried the alternative just recently and the selling tactics are super aggressive. One of the dealers straight up lied and told me the quoted price is the amount to be financed with all taxes already included. That amount incidentally was roughly the same as comparables on cars.com. Then I saw the financing document and sales tax was definitely not included. They even tacked on another 2k or so of a bunch of bullshit service charges. They tried to hide all that by saying "but we got monthly payment down to xxx."

It was just absolutely infuriating. What some dealerships do should be illegal. In fact, I suspect some of it is illegal and why they refused to put stuff down on paper.

Come to think of it, they still haven't refunded me the $500 "refundable deposit." I should have never agreed to that bullshit.

Online shopping through cars.com is just so much easier. Because everything is in writing (email), there is wiggle room on what the terms are. I just go in, drive around the block, sign, and leave with the car. The experience is just way easier for someone who doesn't want to deal with bullshit or risk getting scammed.
They know what they are doing and have different tactics they will use on different people depending how savvy they think you are. When I bought my last truck sight unseen (I saw it on my way to pick it up before signing papers) I was in a rush and they already try to rush you through the paper work. Anyway the quoted sale price is legally supposed to include all fees but before taxes where I live.

They threw in the usual BS fees but there was a $1000 brokerage fee I noticed later, I searched for it on google and it seemed like it was almost never used, definitely not a real item any dealership usually charges in their "add on" fees.

I had to hound them for a few days and got back half of it. I even had the salesman send me his papers from the vehicle he bought and it must have been fabricated but he sent them showing the same BS charge.

The last truck I bought from the same dealership had a special insurance agent they send out to sign you up, in my province its all through one government company so you expect to not get ripped off. The agent convinced me that the bank who financed me requires gap insurance which was $2500. I looked into it later and cancelled it, then sent a text to the agent telling her what she does for a living is pretty effed up.

I really shouldn't have even gone back for the second truck but I need another one next year and if they want to sell anymore trucks in the future I'm going to need a pretty damn good price.
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03-12-2021 , 12:46 AM
Tesla had a fire at one of its factories. It will be interesting to see if this affects the price. Probably not, but is this normal for car companies? I’ve been googling car factory fires and a lot of them are showing Tesla, but that could just be that they are popular in the press in general.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...alifornia.html
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03-12-2021 , 12:51 AM
It was a pretty small fire around the casting machine. I doubt it affects the price unless there is going to be significant downtime, which again, I doubt
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03-12-2021 , 12:54 AM
Now that I think about it, I actually worked at a car factory and one day there was a fire so maybe it is a semi-common occurrence after all.
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03-12-2021 , 02:48 AM
Fires are actually pretty common that's why there's a fire station like every 5 miles
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03-12-2021 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Fires are actually pretty common that's why there's a fire station like every 5 miles
not really, they do more paramedic stuff and helping cats. I've seen maybe 2 actual burning buildings ever. I needed an ambulance couple years ago and they sent a fire van.
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03-12-2021 , 03:18 AM
I think it only becomes an issue if employees get Cal OSHA involved. But they have managed to skirt employment rules before so maybe not.
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03-12-2021 , 03:22 AM
Well if you don't see it then it must not be happening. That checks out. More than 1.2 million fires were reported in the states last year. With a home fire reported every 90 seconds and a fire death every 3 hours with over 300k home fires in 2019. But do go on. Fires not common/station every 5 miles/ cats must be rescued from trees. Ok I'm done here
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03-12-2021 , 03:43 AM
That's one fire per 300 people, most of those are nothing, dealt with a fire extinguisher, or someone with a brush fire in their yard whose neighbour reported it. You don't see serious fires very often because they aren't that common. I used to see the fire department down for our beach fires every weekend as a teenager. I'm sorry that is upsetting to you.
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03-12-2021 , 07:38 AM
Oh so now it's serious fires. Moving goal posts quickly. See this is what happens when your mamma drinks during pregnancy, she ends up with an internet moron who makes arguments like a flat earther. There's no debate here moron, fires are common, you were smoked so fast you had to change to serious fires

Do you have any hot investment tips, I'd like to dwindle my net worth to your loser levels. Unfortunately I won't reply further bc I can't encourage autist derails
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03-12-2021 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Fires are actually pretty common that's why there's a fire station like every 5 miles
Actually, fire department is a somewhat outdated term as fires are under <50% of what they do.
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03-12-2021 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chytry
Actually, fire department is a somewhat outdated term as fires are under <50% of what they do.
indeed ************/video/search?search=firefighter

lol at censorsing p0rnhub.com
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03-12-2021 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Oh so now it's serious fires. Moving goal posts quickly. See this is what happens when your mamma drinks during pregnancy, she ends up with an internet moron who makes arguments like a flat earther. There's no debate here moron, fires are common, you were smoked so fast you had to change to serious fires

Do you have any hot investment tips, I'd like to dwindle my net worth to your loser levels. Unfortunately I won't reply further bc I can't encourage autist derails
I guess it was much more upsetting than I thought. I assume your dad or grandpa worked for the fire dept, so I apologize about my half joking remark about fire departments being irrelevant since 70% of their callouts are medical. Hopefully that calms you down. I'm actually sincerely sorry about the comments, you think you are just joking around because its the internet but I don't always stop to think I'm offending real people.

Last edited by snowie963; 03-12-2021 at 11:16 AM.
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03-12-2021 , 01:12 PM
Let's all be thankful that fires are not as common as London in 1666 or Chicago in 1871.
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03-12-2021 , 03:41 PM
Or California every year.
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03-12-2021 , 03:59 PM
I have no opinion on it, but decided to ask my friend who is a fire fighter just to get his take. Was surprised that an opinion on the frequency of fire occurrences would become such a heated topic of debate.

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03-12-2021 , 04:40 PM
I don’t see any numbers on cats. Maybe they aren’t in that racket anymore and just tell people to get F@&$ed?
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03-12-2021 , 06:31 PM
This WAPO article Fewer fires, so why are there far more firefighters? is pretty dated but I can't imagine there's been an uptick since '15.

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..each of the nation’s 30,000 fire departments saw just one [fire] every 22 days, on average...
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..fewer than 4 percent of fire department calls are for fires...



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I don’t see any numbers on cats. Maybe they aren’t in that racket anymore and just tell people to get F@&$ed?
Per the article:

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..to keep their employees busy, fire departments have expanded into neighborhood beautification, gang intervention, substitute-teaching and other downtime pursuits...
By "Other Pursuits" I assume they mean standing in the middle of busy intersections pan handling w/ a rubber boot.



Last edited by de captain; 03-12-2021 at 06:40 PM.
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03-12-2021 , 06:48 PM
You can’t blame them. Who wouldn’t want a 6 figure job where if you are in a small town, there is a good chance you might not ever have to risk your life. I guess that’s what they are paid for though, the chance they could die every shift. I imagine it’s like that move backdraft but without many actual fires.
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03-12-2021 , 06:57 PM
Firefighter is #24 on the most deadly list, right behind being a house painter.
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03-12-2021 , 08:19 PM
The percentage of firefighters with PTSD and firefighter suicide rates are pretty high , though. It is similar to being a police officer in that the risk of injury or death tends to be exaggerated, but the mental toll of the job can be significant.

Fires probably are the cause of the PTSD though. Being a first responder to bad injuries is probably what causes it
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03-12-2021 , 09:26 PM
That graph proves that hiring more firefighters reduces the number of fires.
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