now ?

I'm not familiar with all of his SPACs, but they mostly seem pretty scammy.

can you explain why

By now I mean the last couple of years. Prior to that he made a ton of money as an angel investor/VC who invested early in successful startups.

How about the new E-tron GT? https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...80%99s-model-s

Source of these numbers?
If it's the manufacturers, it's always misleading.

130k+ cars don't matter when we are talking about top 10 most valuable company though.

watched a lot of winter range/driving videos.
even the hardcore cultists have realized that tesla is just making up those numbers.

Meanwhile, outside of Tesla hype PR graphics (breaking):

Everyone is mislead. See

Start watching 25:30

Those results makes me want to buy Kia stock

It's pretty clear EVs aren't great for people who need to use their cars for road trips. I imagine PHEV will become a more popular drive train until batteries get cheaper and more efficient.

Adding up all the range drops is going to be tough for a lot of drivers.
10-20% less than EPA claims
10% drop after a year or two in normal initial degradation
10-20% drop in cold weather
factor in charging to 100% should be occasional

Range anxiety is still a real issue.

Btw, Edmunds seems to be shady af
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...5#post-5327980

Also comparing the Taycan to Y and not S was pretty weird in the first place.

This is just sad, man. Scientology level cult loser posting. "Someone said something bad about my CultDaddy's company! Let's drag them through the dirt!"

I guess cultdaddy Elon taught the likes of you well, leading the pack of baseless smears by calling an innocent man a pedophile because he didn't like legitimate criticism.

Edmunds are a well respected car reviewer. There's no reason to call them shady just because they call out Tesla's bullshit.

Musk is just the poor battered little guy with the deck stack against him!

Mean ol Edmunds just wants to hold Tesla down to save big oil and dinosaur cars

The narrative somehow hasn't changed even as Tesla is one of the most valuable companies in the world and Musk is the richest person in the world

mods please merge this with the bitcoin thread, ty

The 'victim' tactic is very popular right now, especially on the right. We just laughably saw Josh Hawley go on a massive media tour to out that he was being 'cancelled' by media and none of the media outlets allowing him to air his complaint even questioned the irony in it.

So no surprise it also used here.

Hyperloop is premised on a sharp reduction in the cost of creating tunnels (~order of magnitude+). I believe that premise will be valid within 10-15 years. Hyperloop probably won't work unless and until it is.

Existing High Speed Rail is already a superior form of transport for short distances (600 miles or less). By "superior" I mean safer, more convenient, and comparable in duration. Hyperloop would be as safe/convenient as HSR, and much faster. For longer distances, air travel would remain superior (faster).

Because hyperloop targets sub 600 mile distances, a global network of interconnected nodes is unnecessary and irrelevant. Others have proposed tubular systems for longer distances at much higher speeds with (sub-sea) intercontinental connections, but that seems much more difficult, even if it's physically possible (vacuums, etc).

A new technology could supplant all of the above (eg. rapidly re-usable rockets, teleportation, or something else), but that's out of left field.

Politics.

I disagree IRT the safety aspect. If CA for example has their way in establishing passenger safety guidelines Hyperloop will never get off the ground. Way too many safety issues (vacuum environment, tunnels, G forces, egress requirements, seismic issues, flooding, etc.).

On the other hand, if CA has an ulterior motive in promoting use of Hyperloop then maybe these safety guidelines get overlooked. Not good for passengers and not good for society in general.

I fully support Hyperloop for freight, provided it is economically beneficial. (which I am confident it will be soon)

Something is legitimately wrong with you

Disturbingly overvalued.

why would adding a tunnel to the hyperloop make it more economically viable?

Tunnels can go in a straight line, theoretically. At grade or above grade paths would need to navigate elevation changes and lateral obstacles.

Hyperloop operates at high speed safely only if it moves in a straight line.

heltok's is the same line of thought among twitter bulls too. "edmunds = FUD!! check out this youtube video/forum post from a heavily invested tesla fanboy proving otherwise!"

ultimately it boils down to stonk price bro. trust forum people and youtubers more than news because stock price keeps going up, which works (until it doesn't)

it's the science-nerd version of Qanon people saying "don't trust the media, do your own research!" where research is watch random wackos on youtube rant about insane ****

yeah. but what happens when one of your seals or whatever goes from 99,999999999999% to 99,999999999998% and you can't keep up your vacuum and need to replace it?

Agree freight is an excellent use case.

Minor correction: Hyperloop uses a partial vacuum.

Safety is a big topic and we can agree if it’s not solved then it should not go ahead. Taking Japan’s High Speed Rail as an analogue, there has never been a fatal accident in its 50 years of operations (10 billion passenger trips). The cutting edge Maglev HSR train is pushing 375 mph in testing (hyper is targeting 760).

Politics and NIMBYISM are relatively bigger obstacles than technical difficulty and safety issues, imho.