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03-22-2020 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
I assume Musk will use this as a loophole to keep the entire factory open, and building cars, while a team of 10-12 guys are over in a corner somewhere designing a torpedo shaped ventilator from scratch for a couple of months.
This is pretty much how I see it.

Also, like everything with the stock, optics are all that matter. The faithful will be loading up on the stock in the short term. This might even buy them some time with a disaster quarterly report. I am not sure what I will do with my puts, probably some sort of emotional reaction as I watch more 10s of thousands bleed out off nothingburger reports
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03-22-2020 , 06:21 PM
No way Tesla is able to start producing anything resembling actual hospital quality respirators any time soon. The basic functions of a ventilator are pretty straightforward though. It's simply a question of whether all of the usual regulatory hurdles will be waived in a crisis such as we find ourselves in.

Is a crappy ventilator that has a 50% chance of working correctly better than no ventilator at all when you've got potentially thousands of people who will almost certainly die without one? I would argue that it is but I don't know if that's enough of an argument to bypass all of the normal steps put in place to ensure that the devices are safe.

Regardless I don't see how this matters to their financials much. It's good PR, which of course matters, but selling 10,000 crappy ventilators at say $30k each (I think a real one costs about $50k) doesn't move the needle much for Tesla. As mentioned it might allow them a waiver to keep the factory open and producing cars which would be far more important to them.
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03-22-2020 , 06:23 PM
But yeah, very few Tesla's gonna be sold in the next few months regardless.
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03-22-2020 , 07:42 PM
Is it really a given that TSLA is rallying tomorrow?
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03-22-2020 , 07:43 PM
No, but seems likely based on recent price action and the news
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03-23-2020 , 05:17 AM
What news? the ventilators FUD?
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03-23-2020 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
bought 2 3/27 400p bc i'm a glutton for punishment

but really because cases ramping in US and think we take another hit next week. still in may/june/january puts
sold these for small loss
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03-23-2020 , 11:50 AM
Is this thing pinned to $420? What a weird world

Debating selling more puts before delivery report... from what I'm reading they're still lol delivering to customers throughout all this
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03-23-2020 , 12:04 PM
I trimmed 10 June 300p at 44.00 due to market uncertainty. Might trim 10 more in the near future based on price action and sentiment.

Have 1 Jan 2021 300, 1 Jun 270 and 10 more June 300 that I'll hold through earnings at least.

Slightly bummed, but it's how it goes
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03-23-2020 , 12:05 PM
i think its fine selling puts before delivery report, i would be cautious doing so into the EC, the biggest risk in the reported numbers is the limited ability to window dress cash burn DESPITE Q1 deliveries being ~ok
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03-23-2020 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Xkf
Is this thing pinned to $420? What a weird world

Debating selling more puts before delivery report... from what I'm reading they're still lol delivering to customers throughout all this
i think it was shared here because this is where i get all my tesla schadenfreude but they mentioned they were doing no contact delivery - they'd leave it somewhere nearby and you can approach by yourself and unlock with the app - then you fill out the paperwork that's been left in the car and drop it off in a box
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03-23-2020 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
i think it was shared here because this is where i get all my tesla schadenfreude but they mentioned they were doing no contact delivery - they'd leave it somewhere nearby and you can approach by yourself and unlock with the app - then you fill out the paperwork that's been left in the car and drop it off in a box
i cant even imagine the total shitboxes they will unload on people that agree to this
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03-23-2020 , 01:21 PM
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03-23-2020 , 01:50 PM
FWIW, my position is short equity, short weekly puts, long LEAPs. I basically do a put spread every week of selling weekly puts to buy more LEAPs
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03-23-2020 , 01:55 PM
You are bullish long term?

or the long leaps your hedge

Last edited by coordi; 03-23-2020 at 02:12 PM.
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03-23-2020 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by phantom_lord
Amazing.
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03-23-2020 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
You are bullish long term?

or the long leaps your hedge
No, bearish long term, but front vol is extremely expensive and market feels rippy. So I want to limit my close exposure to just the equity short as mitigated from shorting puts.

I'm positioned short such that even if TSLA rips to 1000 (not happening) I don't give any cares and I will have plenty of cash to reshort.
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03-23-2020 , 02:24 PM
Thanks for the explanation
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03-23-2020 , 02:47 PM
bizarrely completely flat and vol crushing my balls
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03-23-2020 , 03:33 PM
This might actually create some opportunity in the weekly option chain. 525c/325p is ~4$
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03-24-2020 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by coordi
This might actually create some opportunity in the weekly option chain. 525c/325p is ~4$
Out at 13.25+.5
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03-24-2020 , 10:32 AM
The masks did clear the airport in case anyone didn't read through the tweets. Maybe they can turn a profit on masks?
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03-24-2020 , 01:26 PM
I kind of want to add more to my puts position off this rally. Someone talk me out of it
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03-24-2020 , 01:45 PM
i added a few june 200s couldn't help it, although in retrospect would feel better about july or later to capture q1 deliveries + q1 earnings + q2 deliveries
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03-24-2020 , 03:27 PM
I was thinking of buying some puts as well. I'm trying to tell myself to wait for tomorrow.
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