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02-06-2020 , 08:55 PM

#11426

jalexand42

Hypothetical Ubermonkey

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,390

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer

Haha. The effective CEO, Gwynne Shotwell, the President and COO, who runs the place. Musk is the company mascot and fake CEO.

I'll see if I can dig up the video of her - a real CEO without the title- treating Musk like a child and constantly shutting down his Starlink lies. SpaceX is a real company with a real, non fraudulent board (unlike Tesla) and they don't take kindly to Musk's nonsense. He's like the idiot child of a billionaire owner that management has to put up with.

Please do, I'm genuinely curious to see where she's talked down about starlink.

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02-06-2020 , 09:00 PM

#11427

de captain

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,514

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

Ok boys, gonna let you circle jerk on this on your own. Nobody is going to change perspective on this so have fun. Oh don't forget to use words like "FAKE", "FRAUD" and the usual buzz words to make it seem you really know your ****.

O/U on you coming back at 16 hrs.

People have used words like "fake" because it's an accurate description of some past events, whether you like it or not. 420 funding secured, a fleet of robotaxis in 2020, self driving coast to coast in 2017, were obviously fake promises by Musk. There's simply no other way to describe them except as fake. Musk knew they were fake at the time he said them, and they proved out to be fake.

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02-06-2020 , 09:11 PM

#11428

stinkypete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,783

The original SolarCity roof tiles that were used to justify the bailout were also about as fake as it gets. That's my favorite example.

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02-07-2020 , 12:58 AM

#11429

coordi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,703

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Originally Posted by RT

In case anyone is curious, the current understanding is that this guy didn't sell yesterday and has currently lost most of this.

Mods did a screen share and have determined it to be legit as far as they can tell

Guy flipped it into puts

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02-07-2020 , 02:42 AM

#11430

despacito

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,369

Tesla (TSLA) Short Selling Temporarily Restricted by SEC
https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...g-rule-201-sec

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Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) short selling was temporarily restricted by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) until markets close on February 6 . The decision was made in accordance with the SEC's Rule 201, also known as the Uptick Rule.

As noted by Tesla investor Jessica Meckmann, the uptick rule is a trading restriction which states that short selling a stock is only allowed on an uptick. So under the rule, short selling is only allowed when the price is above the last traded price, or when the recent movement between traded prices was upward. The SEC 201 uptick rule is applied if a stock falls over 10% during one trading day.

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02-07-2020 , 03:36 AM

#11431

ToothSayer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 13,237

Dude you're two days late. The short restriction comes off this morning before open.

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02-07-2020 , 09:57 PM

#11432

de captain

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,514

Seems like this might be hard on the resale value of "the appreciating Tesla robotaxi":

Tesla remotely disables Autopilot on used Model S after it was sold.
Tesla says the owner can’t use features it says ‘they did not pay for’

Nothing like buying a piece of **** autopilot that doesn't work and then being told you can't even pawn it off on the next sucker.

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02-07-2020 , 11:14 PM

#11433

stinkypete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,783

Yeah its pretty cool that the one thing that is supposed to make your car an appreciating asset can't be sold with the car

Making the software non-transferable is barely different from bricking the car intentionally upon sale unless a bribe is paid to Tesla

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02-08-2020 , 12:12 AM

#11434

Morishita System

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,391

Gap up to $950 on Monday I guess

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02-08-2020 , 12:11 PM

#11435

bbfg

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12,264

I guess with the amount of attention Tesla gets, Chinese gvt thought it was a good PR move to allow it to start up again ASAP? Actually not a bad idea.

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02-08-2020 , 12:22 PM

#11436

Kelvis

banned

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8,737

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Originally Posted by Morishita System

Gap up to $950 on Monday I guess

For a week now it hasn't traded based on valuation or news, although it has stabilized the last 2 days and volume has come down to acceptable levels Friday so who knows.

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02-10-2020 , 05:58 AM

#11437

Kelvis

banned

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8,737

Seems to become another gap up Monday.

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02-10-2020 , 01:58 PM

#11438

calmasahinducow

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,807

Seems pinned at 750 until monthly expiry.

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02-10-2020 , 06:15 PM

#11439

Morishita System

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,391

As suspected, one of the most well known MMs are stuck with 7% of the TSLA float and will be looking to unwind soon.

All in short time is very soon. Longs are in trouble.

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02-10-2020 , 06:22 PM

#11440

ToothSayer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 13,237

I wouldn't call up 150+% "stuck".

6.7% stake would get eaten in a few hours at current volume if they decided to dump it all at once. When is this info from? There's normally a large lag between holdings and reporting. Do we know they didn't sell it all already at $800+? 25% of the float a day was going off, retail baggies eating up exactly this kind of seller.

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02-10-2020 , 06:29 PM

#11441

Morishita System

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,391

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer

This is from the 13F reporting holdings as of December 31.

So you are right. They are probably holding a lot more than that to hedge through some of the monthlies.

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02-11-2020 , 11:55 AM

#11442

calmasahinducow

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,807

Still short a bunch of puts and calls, but with IV plummeting here, I'm hedging a bit and buying some calls in the 900 area with the expectation that Elon either A) continues pumping with Europe news, China news, etc. B) does an ATM offering to pay off debt which would be bullish af for the equity.

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02-11-2020 , 12:01 PM

#11443

OlafTheSnowman

journeyman

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 373

The Nikola Badger truck looks friggin sweet

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02-11-2020 , 12:19 PM

#11444

As1an1nvas1on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,352

rivian is gonna make a good truck

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02-11-2020 , 12:38 PM

#11445

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 47,883

Quote:

Originally Posted by coordi

Mods did a screen share and have determined it to be legit as far as they can tell

Guy flipped it into puts

Dude called Game on the bubble. What a stud.

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02-12-2020 , 06:14 AM

#11446

Kelvis

banned

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8,737

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Originally Posted by calmasahinducow

Yeah dilute equity to pay off debt lol. If he does that they either fire him as CEO or I'm out.

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02-12-2020 , 11:21 AM

#11447

Spurious

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18,593

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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on

rivian is gonna make a good truck

Do you know the number of Android phone companies that made good phones? Better phones than the iPhone?

HTC is a very good example of the argument. They went from sky high to dogshit in a few years, because they didn't really have what it needs to stay innovative.

Tesla will be the most sought after electric car company in the world for the next 10 years. It's so painfully obvious. That doesn't - of course - mean that they are not overpriced at the moment.

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02-12-2020 , 11:50 AM

#11448

coordi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23,703

Selling both sides of this 800-750 after iv ramp every morning has been quite nice

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02-12-2020 , 11:56 AM

#11449

As1an1nvas1on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,352

in b4 toothsayer comes in here and says thats the stupidest analogy hes ever heard

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02-12-2020 , 12:03 PM

#11450

ToothSayer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 13,237

The analogy is fine, but Tesla is the Blackberry of electric cars, not the Apple (if Blackberry lost $25K per phone sold in order to have a temporary monopoly on long battery life phones)

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