Not to mention she did it while wearing those ridiculous black turtlenecks and a fake deep voice that would rival Christopher Lee. Both significant handicaps that would hamper any enterprising huckster.

Tom, those tests were voluntary things and not formally part of any medical procedure with no doctors involved.

Worst case scenario was you'd book an unnecessary doctor's appointment and they would do another test (which they'd do anyway as blood tests are regularly incorrect) and then proceed from there.

As seen by the "worst cases" highlighted in the lawsuit:

This is nothing like the picture you painted. You do this regularly. Please keep your needless exaggeration and hyperbole somewhere else.

First, please stop with the ad hom attacks about my "reputation". If you are going to make ad homs at least make them about something I care about. I can assure you that my reputation on 2p2 is less than an afterthought.

Second, you continually have missed the issue I have with your analogy. It's evidenced by the quoted material from USA today. Those claims help my argument. The issue is that comparing convenience tech, music tech, VR tech etc. to medical tech is not an apt analogy. Theranos's tech harmed people physically. Even if no one died, it's irrelevant to whether your analogy is bad or not. Other tech companies that fudged on what their tech could actually do did not put people at risk of physical harm.

Their fraud was far more serious than a standard tech start-up.

Dude, you lied to make a point. You do this a lot. It contributes nothing and only hurts the thread if we are ok with people lying to make a point.

You should stop instead of coming up with excuses for it and stop lying. If your argument has merit then it won't require your hyperbole.

That's my point. And yeah man, you have a shitty rep here for awful posting.
Why lie about that? Why? It's not even close to the first time and just makes you look pathetic.

And yet, you felt the need to respond.


Also, I think you need to look up what "ad hominem" means.

What did I lie about? If you are claiming I lied about people dying. I said those claims might not be valid. Explicitly said it.

That doesn't change the fact that it is a bad analogy. Please stop with the personal attacks. It's unbecoming.

Yes, I did respond. But only to point out the fact that I'm attempting to add value and in return I'm being attacked personally.

He should engage my argument or not engage at all. I'm sorry if I hurt his feelings but it's a bad analogy. There is no reason to respond the way he did.

Turtletom banned for 2 days (he was banned for 1 recently) for posting badly about Theranos in a thread about TSLA.

I, for one, embrace the new mod overlord

closed the naked calls (nice little vol contraction) and now basically free rolling long. Will be out if we hit 600 before earnings

How will coronavirus impact $TSLA?

If situation gets worse (likely imo) this is bad for domestic demand, which was already looking soft before this broke.

On the other hand it looks worse for other major car manufacturers operating in China that have large manufacturing facilities at ground zero in Wuhan: General Motors (GM), Nissan (NSANF), Renault (RNLSY), Honda (HMC) and PSA Group (PUGOY, Peugot owner). Some are evacuating their expatriate staff already.

Tesla imo will do a 5-10% a year from now so not too bad. Beats the market

What sales and profits did you use to come up with this?

I’m a Jedi, I use the force.

Corona wouldn't have any short impact anyway because the whole country shuts down for a few weeks for new year right now anyway.

Only way it'd slow down production is if it became pandemic in which case we all have much bigger problems than worrying about your portfolio

So true

Monday and today were huge short term trading days though

If options are priced accurately the share price should stabilize around $560 tomorrow

The options pricing is not attractive at all. I'm going to make a relatively small short play and hope it doesn't rocket to 650 somehow.

My main concern is how quiet musk has been lately. Normally if things were looking questionable he'd be tweeting all sorts of pump

That actually makes me wonder about building a bot to make trades based off elon's social media presence

There's already a number of them don't that based on POTUS tweets

Would be an interesting way to learn machine learning at least

I am not so sure...

Other foreign auto makers in China are already shutting production beyond the extended mandatory holiday.

Chinese gov measures to prevent spread/pandemic (eg. expanding geographic zones for driving ban and quarantine) could simultaneously slow/halt production and kill domestic demand.

Broader implications of virus/pandemic terrify, but already bearish event for Tesla/GF3 and not priced in.

Maybe I am being too pessimistic and ofc market could yolo regardless.

Volfefe is definitely the best thing to come out of the Trump presidency so far. Well, besides my 401k balance

This thing could hit $650 post-earnings. Baffling.

I´m getting tired of winning.