He'll be fine he owns a Tesla and is PRINTING MONEY

Yeah see I'm not worried about me not using the autopilot ever or doing something remarkably stupid like using it and taking a nap. I'm worried about anyone who borrows my car trying some stupid **** like that. Which is another thing. It's bad enough when I drive I'm surrounded by idiots, now I have to worry about the Tesla owners who are also nutjobs incapable of realizing how dangerous the car is if misused

The car has a history spontaneously combusting...Like, wtf?

Doors permalocking

Doors freezing shut in cold weather

Didn't a guy die because he crashed and the car didn't auto unlock? Or I think he died on impact, but would've burned alive anyway because of such?

Like I said, stop with the pretentious bull****. I don't need you to try and tell me how and what to think. I have a brain and know how to use it. Not considering buying a Tesla, ever, until I'm convinced it's not a death trap

It's not a matter of debate. It's a matter of my satisfaction as a consumer and production meeting it. Whatever you're going on about is noise as far as I'm concerned

I hope that guys got free supercharger since his car became his house and job

Motor vehicles are dangerous. This is not unique to Tesla.

I totally agree with the bear/realist approach re Tesla, but I have seen no evidence that it's any more dangerous. Battery fires and all that jazz happen at a similar rate or more with ICE I think.

Regardless, you've now put into my brain that next time I'm driving on the west coast there will be multiple autopilot Teslaists sleeping at 80mph. Thanks for the nightmares.

Not if it's an appreciating asset that's going to go out and earn a living for me within the next year.

Valid point but then you're buying a robotaxi not a car!

I think that chart is very misleading, Volkswagon also sold 10.8 million cars last year compared to Tesla's 200k. Also their entire R&D budget is not in electric cars.

The real point here is that the way R&D is typically defined, every company spends lots of $$$ on R&D and this does not in any way mean that TSLA is disproportionately investing in the future - R&D is just the cost of doing business. The reported differences between companies are likely driven by accounting decisions (some of this may have to do with country-specific accounting standards even) more than anything else.

Also, I don't know why someone here thinks Uber isn't doing real R&D - they are more aggressive at spending money on new promising ventures than Tesla and in areas where they overlap in terms of hiring (software engineers), my understanding is that they pay better, hire better overall talent and have better culture. Uber's long-term economics is still unproven but its methodical growth and operational excellence in maintaining that growth have been more impressive than anything Tesla has been able to demonstrate so far. There's a reason why Uber is worth much more than Tesla despite being substantially younger (I think they've raised similar amounts overall).

Tesla holding up really well considering what market has done in the past week.

Incidents. I guess that's a good word for it.

https://twitter.com/teslacito/status...843520/photo/1

“We do have a major program at Tesla which we don’t have enough time to talk about today called “Dojo”. That’s a super powerful training computer. The goal of Dojo will be to be able to take in vast amounts of data and train at a video level and do unsupervised massive training of vast amounts of video with the Dojo program – or Dojo computer.”



https://electrek.co/2019/08/05/tesla...ing-elon-musk/

DOJO!!
After resignations just a few weeks ago, today one of their key autopilot leads left to work with GM Cruise. What a bizarre thing to do - you're 5 months from the amazing feat of solving level 5 autonomy (according to Musk) which comes with fame and a stock moon shoot, and you're leaving to work at a competitor? Weird stuff. DOJO though!! DOJO man.

What this article should tell you is that they are cucks without a clue. Their "strategy" is to throw machine vision learning at everything and pray. It will never work for 10 different reasons. What an embarrassment. This is robotizing the entire factory to "outdo the majors" all over again, a technofantasy from a big-thinking idiot who lacks the intelligence to see details (Musk).

Dojo is a really cool ****ing name though. Props to the marketing department for delivering that gem

This is evidence they are nowhere near self driving and are starting with a new strategy to try to get there.

Which still doesn't involve lidar.

This is just a vague description of the type of infrastructure that basically exists at every big tech company - it sounds vaguely impressive but the only notable thing here is that the CEO of a technology company is bothering to brag about internal tools that no one outside the company has access to - that's kind of rare, normally CEOs wouldn't address something like this unless it's a product customers can use. At well-run technology companies, this kind of bragging is reserved for engineering blog posts. Tesla's scale also is nowhere near some of the other top tech companies and it's weird for Musk to be talking about vast amounts of video given that they demonstrably don't have the kind of capacity that some other tech companies do and likely don't have the expertise to truly operate at scale either.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...grade_who_all/
This thread is an incredible display of Tesla's brand. If they need money, all they have to do is ask past customers to send them a check for nothing?? wow

Even if lidar was a superior technology on a cost adjusted basis (it's not) that doesn't mean it will win in the end. See VHS vs Beta for an example. Choice of technology is not a foregone conclusion.

If you guys are right and Tesla fails on FSD (unlikely), I don't know how Musk will explain it. He's really putting his neck on the line on this and it seems like a crazy thing to do if he doesn't have a solid basis for thinking they can do it.

VHS vs Beta is a terrible comparison. It's not a format war.

No one seems to mind his presentation of solar tiles as a finished product. If he's gotten away with this type of thing before, why not keep going? He'll move on to talking about rockets on cars or something.

Um, $420 "funding secured"?

I believe the above was the same reasoning for those who thought Musk's massive stock fraud had to be real.

And it's not a crazy thing to do at all. When he lies with a 2020 date he gets to pump his stock and keep it out of the toilet...if it doesn't work out (like all his other Tesla grand claims and timeline fail to work out) he just puts the next carrot in front of the donkey and claims it's "near" and will be ready in



See the look on that donkey's face I just posted? That's you with Elon Musk's lies. Add on bit of a 10 year old sophistry and you have descapito in a nutshell.

What evidence do you have that supports this? Evidence meaning fact based stuff and not just Musk's puffery.

SpaceX.

You're going to have to help me out here. What do rockets have to do with self driving cars?

If you can get a rocket to land itself on a ship how hard can a car driving itself be?

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