The answer is: if you covered the entire US continent with solar panels you couldn't generate all or even half of electricity with solar. Do you see why?

There is also a 0% chance that the gigafactory will be 100% (or even 50%) renewable powered by the end of 2019 for the same reason. Solar is unreliable and wind isn't viable in Nevada. Hence the claim they'll include geothermal - something that they haven't even started and the site is unsuitable for (there's a reason geothermal plants are generally put in the area of natural geysers)

Like "all superchargers being solar powered", the gigafactory being 100% powered by on-site renewables is pure bull**** that Musk has fed you. And why is he feeding you pure bull****? Because the truth about his company and the needless environmental disaster they create needs to be hidden behind fake "green" promises.

No, I do not see why. Kindly explain!

To be clear, we are talking about generating all electricity for the US, not for the whole world.

Cock shaped factory, tooth you are too good. ****ing the environment and the shareholders!

More like Tolstoy than Hemingway in its wordiness, but masterful nonetheless. Nice piece!

Semi-off-topic, but ship the fondue. (I got them at +320 and it was still a fist pump.)

Nice cash. When was that bet booked? Why weren't they heavy fav?

They were the favorite. Pre-tourney, 20% is pretty big.

I saw france was equally priced in and Germany +550 even though the US looked to be on another level. I don't follow womens soccer, do the other squads get that much respect? The US women were destroying them out there

This is definitely not true and possibility has never been true.

Energy production is more environmentally friendly than ICE.
Energy consumption is way more environmentally friendly than ICE.
Production is more environmentally friendly than ICE.

What are you basing the comment on?

For context, ToothSayer posted this article and claimed:

Article: Elon Musk: Tesla will stop selling cars once full self-driving is solved

Enjoy your manually steered hybrid Tooth. I'll be sure to throw a ponzi wave at you as I roll past in my fully autonomous, fully electric, Tesla robotaxi, unless I'm too busy looking at the ridiculously high valuation of my TSLA stocks.

This just keeps getting better. Anyone remember Crazy Eddie? Despacito was comparing Musk to Steve Jobs when he should have been comparing him to Eddie Antar

Are you au fait with the state of autonomous vehicle tech (not just Tesla, generally)?

It seems like people itt are inclined to say [x] is impossible when [x] is something that either already exists today or is super close. In general people tend to underestimate the rate of technical change, especially in relation to tech companies that pour ridic amounts of $ and engineering into R&D.

Wow, brilliant pricing move by Tesla - cut prices multiple times in 2019 to try and juice sales, only to months later state that the cars are actually appreciating assets that will soon get “fully self driving chips” making them worth many times the price. Better buy now before we stop selling them for pennies on the dollar!

Your summation is terrible. Do you understand reality? Musk's bs is impossible. No lidar, trained seeing-eye dog mobiles, robotaxi's, etc... Maybe you should stay on the sidelines and catch up before dropping in like a kamikaze and questioning others comprehension. And if you're not a familiar...A guy named Tooth nailed this to a t over an extended period of time and any rational thinker has come down from the ledge long ago. But you are here like a wet pup figuring out how to run before you walk.

"Come on down, these prices ARE INSAAAANE!"

you should buy multiple cars now while you still can!

I def agree with the tsla bear thesis, but this was a very high quality post and I hope someone responds to this with sources like despacito provided.

It was an extremely low quality post. And it was responded to, fully:
Clearly he doesn't see why:
That basic concepts fly right over both your heads even when pointed out to you isn't my problem, and there's no point discussing further when people are so stupid, as nothing fruitful can be gained from it.

Sure thing, and I'll be riding past on my antimatter powered unicorn with Miranda Kerr clones on the back, laughing at you in your "robotaxi".

How much of a gullible dickhead are you? I'm not sure if it's sad or funny.

I think I can predict what your arguments will be, but why would I assume?

Provide your reasoning/evidence or admit you're wrong.

I even said corrections welcome!

(FYI that info comes from an Ivy League physicist who does not necessarily think solar is the best option).

I'm gullible because I won't blindly accept a vague one line rebuttal from you with no facts, figures, or references? And there you go yet again resorting to personal abuse rather than reason and evidence. Disappointing.

Had to google this one. Australian slang. Miranda Kerr reference. Coal fetish.

How many vested interests do you have in EVs failing?

Let's recap:

- Swallows whole and repeats pure Musk lies like "superchargers are being switched solar power and going off grid"
- Defends Musk calling a stranger a pedophile, with comically bad amateur sophistry ("you can't prove a negative!")
- Defends Musk committing securities fraud, which greatly hurt the longs, claiming that it "hurt the shorts" when it actually made them billions.
- Thinks you can power the US 100% with solar power.
- Now thinks there's a conspiracy where people who are discussing Tesla failing have vested interests in EVs generally failing.

Dumbest poster ever in this thread for sure, maybe all of 2p2?

despacito, you say people itt underestimate technological change.

Does the entire financial market underestimate this?
Tesla just went through an objectively difficult capital raise. I think if you would do some calculations of Musk's claims wrt robotaxis, you would come to the conclusion that Tesla is a crazy good investment even if you only put a 20% probability on Musk his robotaxi claims being true. Markets don't seem to agree.

This is almost all lies and misrepresentations.

You have zero credibility.

Re: powering the US 100% with solar, that post is specifically about the area that would be required to do that. It doesn't really go into the ability, or desirability, of doing so. And you have failed to provide any contradictory evidence about the amount of land required.

Pulling your Tesla with a horse and composting the manure is as good for the environment as it will ever get.