I keep coming back to see if spurious has posted

I give him a hard time but I actually like Spurious. Unconventional thinker. I just wish he wouldn't go down the stranger/pointless rabbit holes that end up taking time.

I like spurious too, unconventional thinker is a nice term for it

I am not sure why you think stupid marketing gigs like the autonomous driving event are catching my interest? The reason people buy Teslas is because they like the product. I'd be surprised if more than 5% of Tesla owners know where the TSLA stock price is and less than 2% know of bull**** like those events.

I have said time and time again that the reason I am bullish on TSLA is for relative reasons not for absolutes (e.g. 5k cars per week vs. 3k cars). Other car companies are hopelessly behind to TSLA when you look at the entire picture.

The path that TSLA goes down with autonomous driving is magnitudes more difficult than driving in a single city for which comprehensive data can be captured quite quickly.

Let's look at the the LIDAR vs. vision debate: what is commercially more viable to deploy to hundreds of thousands of cars? If TSLA solves the vision problem than the entire LIDAR deployment is a thing of the past. If they can't solve it, then LIDAR remains an extremely expensive method to deploy to cars commercially.

TSLA works on way more roads than Waymo and GM works and certainly has less accidents. You make it sound like the reason why the number of roughly 10'000 miles per accident is so extraordinary is due to the fact that 1) they are not at fault and 2) everything needs to be reported. But show me a driver that is involved in an accident every 10'000 miles and I show you an idiot.


In any case, the stock price is slowly but surely retracting. Something I have perfectly predicted for the past 2 years.

Elon stalling so no one sees the numbers before the call?

If RIP Harambe was a precursor to disaster sales figures, Pornhub and leafblowers are not boding well for the EC.

Yeah. $4.10 loss per share for one quarter in the quarter they opened up their BRAND NEW, much hyped, 400K preorder backlog Model 3 to ALL international orders from what was previously just North America.
After claiming to permanently profitable going forward.

Let that sink in. Oh and they dropped prices 40K euro at the same time...

And now the lies begin: Tesla Operating Cash Flow Less Capex Should Be Positive in Every Qtr Including 2Q
and
If Gigafactory Shanghai Is Able to Reach Volume Production in Early 4Q 'We May Be Able to Produce As Many As 500,000 Vehicles Globally in 2019

Masters of the art of bull****.

Looks like Musk's 500K fraud-tweet has been blown out of the water with the SEC pending tomorrow:

Tesla Backs Prior Guidance of 360,000-400,000 Deliveries in 2019

But no one actually believes this stuff

Elon just swing trades his own company. Only non-meth explanation for it

Green numbers.

There has to be some other explanation. People aren't this stupid. He lies way more often than he doesn't.

What? Look at this thread. Most of the bulls in here thought $420 funding secured was real. Why wouldn't they believe those items are real? Requires far less credulousness.

Is anyone listening?

What was that exchange about?
EM: "300 percent increase"
Someone else (whisper): "300?"
EM: what?
Someone else (whisper): "300?"
EM: yes, 300% increase.

I feel like this is the type of ER that should tank the stock 20-25% lol

But that was a year ago. People have learned.

This dude offering car insurance now?

Tesla is becoming a one-stop-shop for everything any Elon fanboy needs.

I disagree. Millions of people controlling tens of billions of dollars believe in Elon and trust him. Even if they know he's late on timeframes sometimes (he even jokes about this) and had this weird fraud thing happen, they believe he delivers eventually or has a grand plan they can't see or is basically truthful but is let down or unfairly attacked by others. They are truly mind-****ed as only a good charlatan like Musk can do.

It's the only explanation I've come across, but it's just hard to believe there's that much dumb money out there.

With the data they're collecting on drivers they actually have a massive competitive advantage. They could price insurance based on actual data on your individual driving ability/style, the areas you drive and park in, etc. etc.

Hilariously it would also mean anyone taking advantage of the amazing performance of the cars would pay higher insurance rates. And assuming the self-driving features ever become any good you'd be punished for wanting to drive your car.

So yeah, they should definitely sell car insurance.

The #1 upvoted post on Reddit the other day was a gif of the FSd video. The posts in the thread weren't necessarily shilling for Tesla but that is what you're dealing with as far as the general public is concerned. They aren't following numbers or his Twitter, they just see a "Fully Self Driving" car

One of my more intelligent friends told me a few days ago that hes learned to never doubt musk.

I've maintained my doubt to the bear case over the years following the thread, but the predictions from this past quarter where what finally convinced me that there is probably a fire behind the smoke show

So when does the stock go down if there's a bunch of dumb money never sell out there?

That concept makes sense, but I don't think it's that easy.

Seems like they're just figuring out how to get every dollar they can out of every elon fan they can...which could be smart business or it could tarnish your brand to get a few extra pennies.

"In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run, it is a weighing machine.”

I wonder what state insurance commissioners think of that.