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04-23-2019 , 02:13 AM
I think it would have been pretty cool if they had some guy in the autopilot just giving a small presentation and then half way though he takes control to pull into a corner lot. He then programs a new destination into the autopilot and off it takes them. Wouldn't even be that hard to preprogram. I dunno how the demo was so lame when his presentation was so desperate. Maybe it is all part of some genius plan, but it really seems like hes imploding
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04-23-2019 , 02:32 AM
It would be cool if they had something cool to show... It's 2019... You don't publish a garbage quality video if you're actually trying to show off something cool.

Why not show how it handles stop lights and stop signs at intersections in real time? Or any other new cool capability? Sure, speed up the boring highway parts, but come on.

A 12 year old with a gopro could literally produce a better quality video in an hour.
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04-23-2019 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
The published FSD demo video for today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlThdr3O5Qo

Unsurprisingly, it's sped up a ton and published at a low frame rate so it can't be slowed down with the built in youtube feature. The low frame rate does a good job of disguising any jerky movements, sudden turns of the wheel, potholes hit, etc.

There's nothing impressive here at all.
It's pretty cool that the driver was able to type in the destination by simply flicking the windshield wiper stick twice
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04-23-2019 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OlafTheSnowman
It's pretty cool that the driver was able to type in the destination by simply flicking the windshield wiper stick twice
Yeah you just input the latitude and longitude by the timing of the taps. Takes a bit of practice but it's super cool technology.
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04-23-2019 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
The published FSD demo video for today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlThdr3O5Qo

Unsurprisingly, it's sped up a ton and published at a low frame rate so it can't be slowed down with the built in youtube feature. The low frame rate does a good job of disguising any jerky movements, sudden turns of the wheel, potholes hit, etc.

There's nothing impressive here at all.
This is comical. They have nothing at all. Their 2016 FSD video was far more impressive (that was a hardcoded route).

FSD "feature complete" by the end of 2019? Liar and fraud is lying and frauding again.
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04-23-2019 , 02:53 AM
And in case anyone doesn't know, there was a strict ban on any kind of photography or video recording during the Autonomy Investor Day demos. You can decide for yourself what that + the published super low quality video could mean.
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04-23-2019 , 05:11 AM
It's hilarious watching actual Tesla owners and fanboys bag this:
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my car can’t even drive into the sun and stay in it’s lane... must be that new hw3.0 chip.
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In all seriousness, a more powerful processor is great and all, but I’ve had so many close calls and erratic behavior from EAP, NOA and all them other abbreviations while driving into the sun. Weak point being the visual cameras which to my knowledge won’t be upgraded with FSD... just the chip.
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I wonder how smooth it was in real-time with the freeway interchanges. My experience with NoA on cloverleafs is that it is quite jittery (I.e. jerky steering wheel movements), and crawls at a slow pace until nearly at the gore point, where most others would have accelerated long before
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So it's basically just a repeat of the fake 2016 demo. Carefully selected route, little traffic, and who knows how many takes to get it perfect.

Have they really made near zero progress since 2016?
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2016 demo was more impressive...but that was nVidia hardware and software
Yet the insane clownboy Spurious thinks they're ahead with this utter trash that can't handle basic common conditions on highways like sunlight, vs fully autonomous taxi services in multiple cities deployed for over a year for GM + Waymo employees and early adopters...amazing stuff.

Musk has cucked his mind really well.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 04-23-2019 at 05:17 AM.
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04-23-2019 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jvds
Why would that end the short thesis?
Lot of shorts have 2020 puts, a raise would hurt
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04-23-2019 , 08:16 AM
I think they're in deep crap with demand but a large raise gets them to Y (perhaps 2x 3 market given that they're a semi-crossover) and maybe pickup and keeps the circus going. I actually think pickup will be a superstar seller for them with great margins. It's a paradigm changer for campers, tradesman, various workers. AWD torque and speed in a sexy pickup with a 100 KW or so of available power to plug into, which business owners can write off the tax - people will pay a large premium for that. The economics and market dynamics of it make sense whereas $35K Model 3 never did.
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04-23-2019 , 08:41 AM
I disagree, also the Venn diagram of people will to spend 70k on a model 3 vs those willing to spend 70k on a MY is a circle and that circle is tapped out.


The Tesla fad is dying, I don’t think any product changes that and with it dying the sales of 100k margin rich products goes with it, and that was the only viable path to surviving for them imo.

A funny point was made in twitter about if musk could only raise but at a price below his margin call what would he do? I know it’s not that simple but the paradox is funny.
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04-23-2019 , 09:08 AM
The loss of S/X volume - even with prices dropped 40K euro overnight!!!!! - is a disaster for them for sure. I agree that the Y is a bit of a mess and not very exciting and will be too late, but the extra seats and size open a 3x larger market (crossover vs sedan).

I maintain that the electric pickup, if it ever gets made, will be huge for hundreds of thousands of tradesmen, farmers, campers, etc.

It's possible no one will touch a raise given that Tesla demand seems to be imploding. Never underestimate dumb money though. Larry Elison put a large amount of money in Theranos. Theranos! He was even an advisor to the charlatan. Many of New York's intelligent wealth Jews were invested with Madoff. Stupid people are stupid and can't spot a con.
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04-23-2019 , 11:01 AM
tooth, is it stupidity or greed?
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04-23-2019 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
A funny point was made in twitter about if musk could only raise but at a price below his margin call what would he do? I know it’s not that simple but the paradox is funny.
That's probably why he planned this hopeful FSD pump.. he needs the price higher in order to raise without being skewered by his margin call.

It's probably no coincidence that earnings were hastily moved forward to the 24th.. is he planning a raise announcement at earnings?
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04-23-2019 , 01:09 PM
Was going to buy a Model S, but decided to buy 2 Model 3s instead. planning on using one exclusively as a robotaxi. I figure at 18c a mile for 1 million miles I will make 180k. Not a bad return for a 40k investment.
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04-23-2019 , 01:15 PM
In before the robo taxi surplus leads to robo buses crunching the entire robo-taxi industry
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04-23-2019 , 01:15 PM
18c a mile is the claimed cost I think...in reality you charge like 60c a mile, still massively undercutting taxi/ride sharing and pocket the difference of $400K.
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04-23-2019 , 01:19 PM
Wow, sick returns. Maybe I will buy two more.
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04-23-2019 , 01:22 PM
I think this happened today. Waiting for Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to confirm.


https://www.autoblog.nl/nieuws/tesla...mpression=true
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04-23-2019 , 01:27 PM
According to the article that Model S was only 6 months old and spontaneously caught fire.
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04-23-2019 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
According to the article that Model S was only 6 months old and autonomously caught fire.
fyp
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04-23-2019 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by applesauce123
Was going to buy a Model S, but decided to buy 2 Model 3s instead. planning on using one exclusively as a robotaxi. I figure at 18c a mile for 1 million miles I will make 180k. Not a bad return for a 40k investment.
Legit lold
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04-23-2019 , 08:19 PM
LOL if you can make $200k by renting it out as a robo taxi why are they selling them for $40k? You hear dumb **** like that from scam artists all the time.
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04-23-2019 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
LOL if you can make $200k by renting it out as a robo taxi why are they selling them for $40k? You hear dumb **** like that from scam artists all the time.
The car manufacturing model wasn't working for them so they're transitioning into a full blown pyramid scheme. It's a pretty natural progression tbh
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04-23-2019 , 08:52 PM
The product rendering they used was a standard interior sans steering wheel. I still have not seen one comment anywhere about the cabin design. If its fsd, has no steering wheel or pedals, why hasn't there been any upgrade to the interior?
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04-24-2019 , 04:18 AM
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LOL if you can make $200k by renting it out as a robo taxi why are they selling them for $40k? You hear dumb **** like that from scam artists all the time.
Try these 3 tricks to build wealth. Ride sharing companies HATE them!
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