Please block me because I'm not going anywhere. I'm not even a Tesla bull (literally have never owned the stock or traded it on the buy side outside of a few trades that I was in quick flips), I find the whole TSLAq community to be as insane as the long side just more obsessed and with even less time on their hands. Anything else?
I definitely believe you are never going anywhere.
Gotta give elon credit. If he just announced the news he gets a small pump. Announce the announcement date/time and get 2 days of pump hype then he hopes follow through on the news (M3 35k, M3 Lease, china financing, Model Y reveal, whatever).
What's everyone's opinions on timing of a short or put reentry here? Is it today on the preview mini pump or let the actual pump come out Thursday and then enter? I'm thinking of buying puts after Thursday pump, but it seems pretty obvious.
I would wait til end of day friday. After the thursday pump news, after the bond payment but before bad Feb delivery on the weekend or early next week.
But hey, might be buy the rumor-sell the news and it drops right after.
TSLA news (most likely to least, could be a combination of these)
1. China factory financing + hype on china production
2. Model Y reveal/specs (Now taking deposits!!)
3. Model Y reveal date (Now taking deposits!!)
4. Semi reveal/specs (Now taking deposits!!)
5. Semi reveal date (Now taking deposits!!)
6. Model S discontinued - New model S2 specs (Now taking deposits!!)
7. Announcing Tesla India
8. Announcing Tesla Iceland
9. 35k M3/M3 leasing (Now taking deposits!!)
10. Elon leaving to focus on SpaceX/Mars
Out of that list I think a Short Range M3 (at 35k?) most likely. Think China is the least likely- he's already been pushing China for awhile. How would financing for China have any effect? Bulls never worried about lack of financing in the first place.
Also think that the field is a strong bet. A pump is better if its new/unexpected.
Yes, the field would include new Autopilot/Full Self Driving hype, but nobody really believes that anyway. I still think #1 is china financing/Joint Venture with some Chinese company to build the factory there. Will be interesting for sure.
I mean, notice how you made some really dumb statements about airplane autopilots in the TSLA thread a couple of days ago (as always, being totally over confident in your ignorance) and then just slunk away after it was clear you didn't know what you were talking about. That's your thing.
Good god, what a loser you are. The conversation was longer interesting so I didn't participate any more. Everything I said was correct:
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Autopilot in planes takes over nearly all functions, including flying, often landing, navigation, warning systems. People rightly expect that a plane on "autopilot" won't fly into the ground or a mountain. Autopilot that doesn't see stationary objects and crashes into them reliably without warning isn't autopilot, it's a sick joke.
Autopilot technology already does most of the work once a plane is aloft, and has no trouble landing an airliner even in rough weather and limited visibility.
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Just how much the pilot does depends, in part, on where you are. In the US, airlines require pilots to maintain manual oversight and control. Asian carrier require pilots to use autopilot as much as possible. “Asiana prohibits the first officer from landing the plane by flying it, it must be automated,” says Moss. “The captain is prohibited from manually flying above 3,000 feet.”
Is Tesla "autopilot" so good that drivers aren't allowed to drive manually on highways? lol, no. Tesla clearly has nothing comparable in "hands off" and "awareness off" as plane autopilot does.
The main point I was making was that plane autopilot and warning systems will reliably warn of dangers. Tesla autopilot will, with 100% guarantee:
- Slam into parked cars/trucks/pedestrians with zero warning and braking
- Follow erroneous lanes straight into concrete dividers with zero warning and braking
- Fail to notice even complete road blockage.
Among many other things. One of dozens of examples of this highly incompetent technology:
Calling that autopilot is pure bull**** and is not comparable to plane autopilot in quality or reliability. It is (unreliable) lane keeping and speed keeping software with a lane change add-on. It's not "autopilot".
No is saying plane autopilot is perfect or does everything, but in terms of safety and reliability and warning when input is required, it's in a completely different class to Tesla's software. Hence why people get the wrong idea.
edit: If they had a prominent warning which said: "Tesla autopilot can't detect stationary objects and is guaranteed to not see and then crash into stationary objects if they are on the road and is guaranteed to follow erroneous lane markings into barriers without stopping" then I'd cut them some slack. But Musk is out there touting his "Fully Self Driving hardware" bull**** and making people think it's close to it.
Last edited by ToothSayer; 02-28-2019 at 01:03 PM.