TS, have you ever heard about the word "obsession"?

Kelvis,
I trade and watch the market all day. It's how I make money. Tesla is my biggest earner by a big margin, both long and short. I stay ahead of all news. I'd rather do something else but there is too much money to be made here, so I stay on top of it.

The creepy Musk fanboys like Spurious, who jump in to defend him against any accusation, are the ones with zero legitimate reason to be here. Who the hell defends a weird billionaire on an investing forum when you don't even trade?
It was a perfectly straightforward and uncontroversial statement, and even if it wasn't everyone here knows the numbers/what I'm talking about so it's even more utterly absurd that you act as a butt-guard for Musk on this. Like, really weird.

Ok so let's assume you're right and he's a fraud. What difference does it make to you? Wouldn't it be wise to share your secrets with as few people as possible so you keep having an advantage?

No. That's not how it works.

I should know better but everyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in this thread knows what a big lie that statement is. A tiny percentage of your predictions have turned out to be true. You have no idea how businesses or the economy work and you want to claim that you've made so much money from TSLA. No one actually believes this. Why keep claiming it?

Great answer. Good arguments. I guess the way to go is to post all day long on 2+2 about how Elon is a fraud while literally nobody cares while supposedly having better things to do. I'll be on my way then.

Why would you lose your advantage while literally nobody cares?

What's the point of going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it? Can you tell me what purpose it can possibly have that outweighs the time spent plus looking like a creep that shows on the doll where Elon touched him? Because I don't see it.

Great, you don't understand trading.

You really need to show me this doll.

Man, facts really upset the bulls/Musk fanboys. The last two pages are us discussing developments/news that are relevant, to, you know, trading the stock? Which is the point of being here? Then a Musk fanboy (Spurious) decides to whiteknight Elon on a non-controversial comment about how's he a risk for banks since the "funding secured" tweet. That's what started this. Now both you and him are desperately trying to personally attack me. This is like dealing with Scientologists. Grow up and ask yourself...if you don't trade Tesla, WTF are you doing here? I can't imagine being even remotely interested in Elon Musk except for the trading opportunities.

this is a 50-60b bigcap that had multiple 10-20% swings just the last year. plus this has to be the name with the most amount of free research available and arguably the most financially illiterate shareholder base in history, you can practically follow the sentiment in this every single day. i'm no short term trader, but for the short term guys like TS this must be the nuts.

i guess if you'd nailed just a few of the 10% swings in this the last 2-3 years you could be retired by now. and the information to do that is out there, on ****ing twitter.

Just 2 pages ctr+f "fraud", almost exclusively your posts. You're obsessed and I am going to leave now to let you ramble on. I highly advice going to the authorities and bring the doll.

He's a compulsive liar, conman, and sociopath who has somehow tricked the world into thinking he's a benevolent but eccentric engineering genius. He has a bloodlust for the people who see him for what he really is and he suffers from uncontrollable raging tilt issues. He's pretty ****ing fascinating.

It's also not that hard to understand why a neckbeard like Spurious or Kelvis would want to live vicariously through an evil "genius" who has tricked much of the world into thinking he's going to save us all while banging chicks like Amber Heard and the ultimate loser crush Grimes.

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I estimate 30% chance ToothSayer is a troll bot, otherwise he is such a waste of energy it is sad

You do understand that Musk just committed securities fraud, right? That this was splashed over the pages of the entire financial press for weeks as it played out dramatically with the SEC with endless trading opportunities? Of course you don't. To you he's like Ron Hubbard is to Scientologists. Which is why you white knight for a 40 something billionaire on the Internet.

The last time you showed up was after his $420 tweet, right before the stock tanked 30% in weeks. Strangely, you mentioned me then too. It seems that it's you who's obsessed - with me.
My favorite thing is how the losers come out of the woodwork when the stock goes right up, and disappear entirely when the stock tanks. It's quite comical.

You arrogant piece of human trash, stop calling names.

The reality is that Musk has people like you, TS, syndr0me convinced that the world is way easier than it really is. The expectations that people have of TSLA are way out of line with what is possible in reality.

We have no one mentioning the millions of cars being recalled from the other major companies. I haven't read anything about GM recently, despite the fact that TS has been saying for years that they will crush TSLA.

Why haven't we heard more of the Tesla Model X killer Jaguar i Pace? Right, because they can't produce more than a few hundred cars a month despite being a car company. I thought it was easy to just switch to producing EV? Or is a few hundred cars a month the sweet spot for profitability despite having a nice backlog of orders? They experience the exact same thing that Tesla experienced.

Every other month some other Tesla killer comes up and ultimately short of Tesla. This is primarily the reason why I stay ITT and argue consistently in favor of Tesla.

People like you, TS, syndr0me are short-term, linear thinkers, but that's not how reality works. It works for short periods, but not for anything beyond a year. The world is multi-dimensional and trying to evaluate everything in simple terms is not going to get you far (as evidenced ITT by all the bears that have been crushed by the stock).

Denholm new chair, she was existing "independent" director


I guess this was more or less expected

she worked at arthur andersen for five years, i think she's the right person to lead the board through the next few years.

OJ Simpson was clearly guilty of murder and yet had wide swaths of the public in support of him and his innocence. He was acquitted despite massive amounts of evidence against him.

Not to mention she's on the other side of the world in Australia working for Telstra (Australia's main communications company) for the next 6 months. Absurd even for optics.

Telstra, Tesla, close enough.

Unreal, tesla openly states she will allow another board member to perform chair duties for 6 months AND she steps down from audit committee (ie she doesnt have to sign the 10-k)

She got paid off to be chair but assume less responsibility than she already has.


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