lol, you must be new to the TS experience.

I mean I have posted actual numbers, multiple times...he's just a pissed off fanboi that he didn't sell at $380.

The cognitive dissonance must really whack you in the face when you see your hero, the shining light of your life, nerd Trump who makes your life worth living ("make manufacturing great again"!), lie to you deliberately about production in a way that costs you money.

I think TSLA will be at

298 on January 2 2019
319 on January 2 2020
341 on January 4 2021

eagerly awaiting your predictions

Deal, though I'm not a fanboi, not sure why you assumed that. My prediction: $250 for Jan 2019, $220 for Jan 2020.

Ok. I still think this would have been more fun with a Bitcoin pool. Let everyone put their money up to show they don't mind backing up their views.

$385 on Jan 2019 (but it'll be lower than that before then)
$460 on January 2020
$580 on January 2021

huh, I thought you said Tesla was going to zero? Interesting.

hilarious to see tooth sayer **** himself when asked to make actual long term predictions. What a cuck!

if only there were ways to speculate on the price of TSLA at some future date then this pool idea wouldn't be necessary.

I haven't actually thought about it recently. I trade Tesla short term. The majority of the time I have no clue what the price is going to do. When I do, I post and shove in, long or short.

Jan 2019 all hinges on M3. Musk has said he's trying for 6000/week by November. I would have to do an actual cash flow analysis to see if that's enough to keep their head above water given their obligations.

Personally I think they'll limp along while the stock price declines and go bankrupt as the M3 demand peaks (since they can't it make it profitably for $35K; the market isn't large enough for a $50K M3), there are recall problems or lawsuits. If neither of those eventuate then Model Y ramp will sink them. Credit and demand will dry up, and competition will be fierce.

Jan 2019: $200 (lower before then, but might get a bounce again late in the year as they do a raise, sort out M3 and pump the Y. 50/50 on the late year bounce imo)
Jan 2020: Bankrupt, but let's say $70 to cover some kind of buyout or SpaceX rescue.

Ultimately, given who holds (mostly institutions plus delusional retail weirdos) and the short percent, it'll need something major like a credit squeeze or obvious failure to make the morons at the institutions dump their holdings. Ackman for example held and bought Valeant (a similarly pumped up fraud with a PR savvy CEO) up at $250. Sequoia didn't dump until $100.



Taking the money of people who hate you, backing up their deluded views with cash, is a beautiful thing. It's too bad they don't want to play.

Good angle. Post conflicting recommendations and quote the one that does best.

I guess your previous tactic of just openly lying about when you entered trades isn't working anymore since I outted you.

PS: The discussion about production was you claiming batch production was a step to mass production. You can read the wiki on your own time since linking it didn't help you, except to reinvigorate your open dishonesty.

PPS: How many trades you make in the bet you have ongoing? No +EV spots all year? Yikes!

I know you can't wrap your head around short, medium and long term (you don't even trade), but there's nothing inconsistent. I've been a long term bear (always, but strongly recommending not shorting at various price points) and a short to medium term bull at $150 and a short to medium term bear at $277 - $380, and a sort term bull again at $260 just recently. It's all there in black and white.

How precisely did you out me? I've posted a ton of real time entries and exists before I realized this probably wasn't the best idea giving away a playbook (a bunch of us do it in private chat now and have been for several years)

What precise trade claim are you saying is fake? If you're going to claim something like that, quote the claim you think is fake. If you refuse to do that you should probably be banned, you don't just get to randomly impugn people with no evidence. I'll provide evidence it's true, you'll look stupid, everyone goes home happy.

Quote the claim you say you outed, please.
Again, you claimed that I was believing that cars are batch produced.We never discussed cars. We were talking about prototyping batteries to test them.
Tons of +EV spots, it's been amazing year for someone bearish biased.

Please quote the conversation on batteries and the claims I made or please request a self-ban as per your own standards.

Jan 2019, 150

Jan 2020, some re org like the gm bailout, so 0

Mikhel05, you contribute nothing to this thread. You continually accuse TS of various past lies, but I can't recall ever seeing you post evidence of them. TS just posted like ten paragraphs of his prior predictions.

Also, it doesn't work like this:

A: "You lied about X a long time ago."
B: "Show evidence."
A: "No, you show evidence that you didn't."

Post-hoc narratives are not "predictions" or trades. There are zero in this thread. Also, it is kinda weird how he claims to post trades as soon as he gets the idea, except doesn't post trades cause he doesn't want to give the playbook away. Weird how that makes no sense.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=810

This is the post with obviously fabricated results. It isn't an accusation. Its a matter of fact.

Mihkel, your posting is terrible

syndr0me, your posting is terrible

ts is very obviously a fantasist. big lols @ anyone that hasn't been able to figure that out

Forget about TS for a minute... listen to the master Jim Chanos opinion on Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv3YhMzS0z4

I mean it's been clear for a while that tooth sayer is just plagiarizing Chanos' comments while throwing in a "cuck" every other sentence or so.

TS,

I just want to say that you are super impressive. At first I was a little put off by what you were saying and doing. But, your dedication to this thread and the time required to fight every Tesla supporter is simply amazing. You have a passion that needs to be bottled and sold. Then we all make some real money. Personal attacks on posters, quoting multiple prior posts, videos, and using the word "cuck" to finish it off. All the tools are there my friend. The fight in you is legend. Congrats, I am a fan.

Intel's 10 nanometre chips have been delayed, probably into 2019. Apparently, AMD have had succesful trials of 7 nanometre chips.

I have no idea why Keller left, but it's reasonable to surmise he will be very well paid in his new job.

Just for clarification, is there any dispute that the graph was contained in the prior post I linked inaccurate in describing what actually transpired?

When you're a pathological liar who struggles to keep their fantasies straight, you might make a mistake. I'm still waiting for his proof of my errant characterization of production methods.

This is one post with a trade, anyone can look at the TSLA stock chart afterwards...

That's my $277 recommendation, quoted above in the list of trades and always quoted as my one bad trade. The Trump rip blindsided me, in here and in the market and in other high beta market linked stocks. Given that this was record setting low vol that ended in the liquidation of XIV as it unwound, I don't feel too bad about that. I've been consistent and honest. Even that one made money.

As for the claimed lie, it's checkmate for our poor friend Mihkel. I got him to overplay his hand and make himself look like a total fool. I'll post the evidence tomorrow, busy today.