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09-23-2019 , 07:23 AM
Videos like that are like symbols of incompetence to me. That vid should be part of a progress report kept in house, not part of what is supposed to be a polished, well refined product thoroughly and robustly tested and proven to meet a standard worthy of representing a company and its reputation. Something like this shouldn't even exist in public. It still baffles me that government regulators allow this to the public. Their very job is to make idiotic **** like this not happen or be possible to happen (Insert joke here about gov't, I get it and prob won't disagree, but hopefully my point is understood?). Nothing makes sense to me anymore...
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09-23-2019 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
I mean, she was standing off the road. If Tesla wasn't a total fraud she would've been safe.

The combination of the Tesla "Austin Powers-ing" itself out of that driveway and literally adjusting to try and kill a child and dog is amazing.
The reaction time of the software appears to be seconds.

This one is awesome also - Teslas on summon literally runs over people on the ground...it has a minimum recognition clearance higher than a skateboard, horizontal person or horizontal bike:



The dude had to quickly stop it before it ran over him. This is on latest version, from a Tesla fan made video.
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09-23-2019 , 01:35 PM
So now we have confirmation of serious criminal fraud with the Solarcity acquisition:

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09-23-2019 , 01:43 PM
yeah, this case would normally be a slam dunk. but so was the 420-case.

with tsla equity + known and (possible unknown) tsla liabilities + spacex & other musk ventures financed by tsla stock this whole thing could be a ~$100b house of cards.

i really have my doubts any judge or government agency has the guts to bring it crashing down.

just look at his pyramid quote in that twitter thread that was revealed a few days ago...

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09-23-2019 , 02:53 PM
Almost hitting the daughter isn't even the most LOL point for me in this video, it looks like it would've not happened and the car stopped in time, though I agree it stopped way too late, which would make anyone uncomfortable about this feature. Imagine this happens when you don't know who is summoning this car in a random parking lot, you'd probably be legit afraid someone is trying to run you over.

What for me was more LOL:
*The way the Tesla backs up the first time just looks uncomfortable, taking a diagonal line when it is not necessary.
*It goes for a three-point turn when it is not even necessary, it can just back on to the road and make the correct transition in one turn. This is also what any normal human would do.
*The car backing up the second time makes no sense if it was just going to drive over grass anyway, it could have done that without going backwards.
I almost feel like the car was planning to do a full 180, but calculated after the 2nd time backing up that it would take like 8-point turns, and just said "**** it, the grass'll do."
*Why the **** does it drive over grass if it's not necessary? The software is clearly in early stages, can it see the difference between an obstacle or hill/pit in grass that would **** up the car? I don't feel like it would, and it should not auto-drive over grass at all.
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09-23-2019 , 02:58 PM
It definitely shouldn't ever drive on the grass. If it does that after a good rain it'll be instantly stuck. Plus old guys hate it when you drive on our lawns.
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09-23-2019 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
So now we have confirmation of serious criminal fraud with the Solarcity acquisition:



This is insane

https://twitter.com/PlainSite/status...967223816?s=20
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09-23-2019 , 04:03 PM
Is it me or are the tweets disappearing?

Here is the full string

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...999529988.html
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09-23-2019 , 06:44 PM
For any other company, it would cause a serious waterfall in the equity as long holders would lose confidence in the company and the board would be forced to oust the CEO.

For Tesla, it's basically "get in line" unless they lose in summary judgment. Stock price grinds higher today and in the after hours as longs are ecstatically pleased at the news that Elon and Tesla are allowed to simply ignore the law without consequence, which is a huge competitive advantage.
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09-23-2019 , 07:32 PM
I think you guys are over thinking the video. It’s pretty clear that the car ****ed up where the road is. If you imagine that the road is the shoulder and the grass is the actual road - the actions of the car generally make sense.

Of course, if the car can’t recognize where the road is in what looks like broad daylight...
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09-23-2019 , 08:06 PM
AP can't do anything, turning 'on' features adds way too much complexity. Add stationary objects and it has to emergency brake for overpasses, clouds, shadows, trucks painted the wrong color. Add memory for trucks that were in the blind spot seconds ago and the memory fills up with a mess the system can no longer parse or apply logic to. Add parking lot logic and it does a 14 point turn between a shopping cart while blocking everyone else. Add working out the difference between grass and pavement and...
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09-24-2019 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
So now we have confirmation of serious criminal fraud with the Solarcity acquisition:

Good source!

Is that the same Ernst & Young that helped Lehman Brothers defraud investors of hundreds of millions of dollars?

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Ernst & Young LLP will pay $10 million to settle a New York lawsuit accusing the accounting firm of helping Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc deceive investors in the years leading up to its 2008 collapse, the New York attorney general said on Wednesday.

The Ernst & Young building rises above Times Square in New York June 18, 2014. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
The 2010 lawsuit claimed Ernst & Young’s auditing facilitated a “massive accounting fraud” and sought $150 million in fees that the firm earned from Lehman between 2001 and 2008, plus investor damages and equitable relief.

While the $10 million was much smaller than what the attorney general’s office had sought, Ernst & Young agreed to pay $99 million in damages to investors in a class action settlement approved a year ago.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...0N61SM20150415
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09-24-2019 , 07:50 AM
lol @ the response to summon ITT. It clearly works as intended and will only get better.

In fact, if the Tesla vehicle belonged to someone else, it would literally be a robotaxi.
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09-24-2019 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
Good source!

Is that the same Ernst & Young that helped Lehman Brothers defraud investors of hundreds of millions of dollars?



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...0N61SM20150415
Wait, legit question here


What are you trying to say?
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09-24-2019 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
lol @ the response to summon ITT. It clearly works as intended and will only get better.

In fact, if the Tesla vehicle belonged to someone else, it would literally be a robotaxi.


Wait, what?

It doesn’t know where the road is. How close can they be to full self driving if after all this time it can’t properly identify the road in basically the best conditions possible (nice weather and light).
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09-24-2019 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
Good source!

Is that the same Ernst & Young that helped Lehman Brothers defraud investors of hundreds of millions of dollars?



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...0N61SM20150415
legit lol at this response.
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09-24-2019 , 10:47 AM
Should I have seen this move coming with the SC stories hitting today? Wonder how much NIO lolz helped it along.
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09-24-2019 , 10:52 AM
It's all nio. No one gives a **** about SolarShitty. If there is a monetary judgement, MAYBE the stock will react. Maybe

Side note, NIO should be about 1.50 eow
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09-24-2019 , 11:35 AM
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https://www.ft.com/content/bb9704f0-...3-db5a370481bc

Nio was feted as a Chinese answer to Tesla, the US electric car group, but the company has been beset by financial and operational setbacks that have seen losses mount even faster than at its Californian rival.
Not sure why there's a but in there.
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09-24-2019 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by case3
Should I have seen this move coming with the SC stories hitting today? Wonder how much NIO lolz helped it along.
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Originally Posted by coordi
It's all nio. No one gives a **** about SolarShitty. If there is a monetary judgement, MAYBE the stock will react. Maybe

Side note, NIO should be about 1.50 eow
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Originally Posted by phantom_lord
Not sure why there's a but in there.
I don't think either of these stories is moving the stock today, TSLA has been pretty resilient the last couple weeks in the face of some pretty substantial moves out of momentum. Just couldn't hang on anymore this morning... That $255-$260 level seems to be ST resistance which was the bottom end of that multi year range, still a pretty ugly chart when you pull it back. Earnings are third week in October does anyone have thoughts on the action leading in and what we should expect?
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09-24-2019 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
Is that the same Ernst & Young that helped Lehman Brothers defraud investors of hundreds of millions of dollars?
So now they're likely to make mistakes again? Or would they now be even more conservative in their opinions?
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09-24-2019 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
So now they're likely to make mistakes again? Or would they now be even more conservative in their opinions?
"mistakes"

they're doing what they're always doing. signing stuff, getting paid and blaming the company when things go south.
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09-24-2019 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
So now they're likely to make mistakes again? Or would they now be even more conservative in their opinions?
I think he's saying EY is helping Tesla defraud it's investors in a similar manner

My ex works in auditing at ey and can confirm, corporate auditing is a complete joke. The goal of the audit is to maintain a long-term customer

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09-24-2019 , 12:31 PM
my guess is, it was just like they say in the filling.
scty didn't give them all the info and EY didn't go out of their way to ask questions.
plausible deniability, blame the company for prividing false information.
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09-24-2019 , 12:50 PM
Who would have thought the SCTY acquisition wasnt on the up and up

color me shocked
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