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12-21-2018 , 09:47 PM
I think everyone is missing a key point. This isn't for poor people. Regular people will still be stuck in traffic with ****ty mass transit options upstairs. The tunnel will be for relatively small amounts of wealthy people to skip traffic. But he's gotta sell it to the masses. Taxpayers will probably pay for it too.
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12-22-2018 , 11:25 AM
Why is the list of scandals about Musk so long?

They are all part of Elon-gate.

I'll get my coat
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12-23-2018 , 06:28 AM
I don't know much of anything about Musk's magical tunnels.

But I do know that his cars get heavy govt subsidies, his solar panels get heavy govt subsidies, and his rocket company works directly with tax dollars.

It is no coincidence that he would be getting into another industry that relies on heavy government support/tax brakes/incentives/etc. The economics of any tunnel depend on the fed/state/local money. This is Musk's specialty.
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12-23-2018 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
Lol at wsj story about musk using spacex funds to fund boring company


Anyone who thinks musk is anything but a conman is a moron.
after reading that wired article, he is something else and that is total piece of **** bully with likely mental issues. gotta feel sorry for ppl who work there to be treated like that.
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12-23-2018 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer

At this stage he might be one the biggest cucks/losers that ever lived (although he's paradoxically also one of the greatest frauds of our generation)
I really feel sorry for you, I can feel the hatred in your posts. I wonder what he did to you to piss you off so much? Did you lose a **** ton on the stock or something? He's a billionaire and makes cars people LOVE, how does this make him a failure? What have you done in your life to be compared 0.0001% to what he has done? Along with revolutionary concepts he is also trying to save the world at the same time.

Clearly your life must be extremely miserable..
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12-23-2018 , 03:33 PM
Revolutionary concepts? Saving the world?
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12-23-2018 , 08:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLTNjGI8hw

Quality control sucking balls
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12-24-2018 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ECTAE
Along with revolutionary concepts he is also trying to save the world at the same time.

Car-centric transport, especially with only 1 person in the car, is the opposite of saving the world.
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12-24-2018 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ECTAE
I really feel sorry for you, I can feel the hatred in your posts. I wonder what he did to you to piss you off so much?
I don't like frauds and liars. I go off on people who push ICOs and penny stocks as well. It's nothing to do with Musk himself and everything to with him being a fraud and liar who's causing enormous waste and environmental damage.
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Did you lose a **** ton on the stock or something?
No, Musk has been wonderful for my bank account.
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He's a billionaire
WTF does this have to do with anything?? Elizabeth Holmes and Madoff were billionaires too. This is just showing your following of him is a partly a will-to-power nerd dream.
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and makes cars people LOVE, how does this make him a failure?
He's great at lying and hustling money, including vast sums of taxpayer money. He's one of the best money hustlers/fraudsters of our generation. Elizabeth Holmes had similar talents. Anyone in the world could make cars people LOVE if they receive $9 billion in paid-in capital and $5 bilion in government subsidies,money which could have gone to poor people or fusion research. In return for this vast $14 billion sum he's made a tiny number of highly environmentally damaging toys for rich people. Of course they love them! Rich people are getting fun, non-commercially-viable prototype sports cars with a $20K subsidy per car!

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What have you done in your life to be compared 0.0001% to what he has done?
I'm a far better human being than Musk. Hobos are better human beings than Musk. Musk has had a massively negative effect on the environment and wealth. I on the other hand don't have a massively negative impact on the world. Ergo I am better.
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Along with revolutionary concepts he is also trying to save the world at the same time.
Most of the great fraud weave this into the narrative, so that suckers like you lap it up and defend them. Nothing Musk does is helping "save the world". In fact, his massive misallocation of capital is bad for the world.

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Clearly your life must be extremely miserable..
Clearly YOUR life be extremely miserable if you give me the same response to an (evidenced) critique of your hero that a Scientologist or feminist follower of Elizabeth Holmes would give. Stop enabling a fraud and liar bro. There are plenty of heros to choose from, why you're buttstopping a highly wasteful liar and fraud is beyond me. Even in his absolute best interpretation, Musk has zero skills except being a big balls dishonest money hustler.

If you want a hero, make a hero of Tom Mueller, the guy who built SpaceX with his genius. But he doesn't bang movie stars or throw out dopey meme references that nerds can get excited about. Your worship of Elon is so pathetic and dumb.
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12-24-2018 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
First thing i thought when seeing that vid of the car in a narrow tunnel was wf if theres some fire it looks crazy dangerous. Also dont these cars have some issues with catching fire seemingly out of nowhere.
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12-24-2018 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLTNjGI8hw

Quality control sucking balls
Would be pissed if i paid 2500 for that paint.

Someone should show that dude how to use calipers.
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12-24-2018 , 09:18 AM
There is no Tom Mueller of SpaceX without Elon Musk. There are tons of businesses with a “real” genius.
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12-24-2018 , 09:20 AM
There was a post awhile ago (near when I started to pay attention to Tesla) of a new buyer that had a bunch of production issues with his car. His response was that it was fine because he budgeted getting things like the paint fixed after delivery.

It’s also not hard to build cars people love when a big segment of the market is delusional enough to think it’s reasonable to budget for repairs on your brand new 50k(?) car.
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12-24-2018 , 09:36 AM
Obviously not to the same extent as Tesla but BMWs, and some models of Mercedes-Benz are pretty infamous for relatively low reliability. Consumer Reports consistently put these two brands near the worst for their maintenance and repair costs over 10 year time frame.

Tesla will probably top Them both.

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12-24-2018 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Would be pissed if i paid 2500 for that paint.

Someone should show that dude how to use calipers.
Paint was absolutely shocking, as was his use of calipers.
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12-24-2018 , 11:03 AM
Covered here @ $297.5 (in from $350) - it's mostly selling off on market conditions so I'll take this win Congrats to any other TSLA shorts that got in high.
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12-24-2018 , 11:19 AM
All we needed to do this year is go all in short TSLA around 360 and go long around 260.
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12-26-2018 , 05:44 PM
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Definitely not to needle you - I recently went short myself @ $350 - but what is your plan at this point?
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Covered here @ $297.5 (in from $350) - it's mostly selling off on market conditions so I'll take this win Congrats to any other TSLA shorts that got in high.
Nice trade and cover, obviously a bit results oriented but still played the range well and solid reasoning to take the money and move on or come back at a better entry.
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12-26-2018 , 06:14 PM
That's pretty much the plan - I'd love it to go back to $350-370 range again and go short again
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12-26-2018 , 06:17 PM
It doesn't actually cost them anywhere near $2.5k to put on red paint vs black paint. It's gotta be a 90%+ markup on that option. Isn't it like Apple charging $100 for $10 more of storage in a phone?

The cult is strong with Tesla when the guy has to acknowledge multiple times in the video that people are going to hate anything negative he says about Tesla or its products.

Last edited by synth_floyd; 12-26-2018 at 06:32 PM.
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12-28-2018 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JKC
For norway, Teslas year over year sales are roughly flat. Down a little bit. Looked back a few months. But, October was almost 201 vs 292 prior year. So maybe trending worse.
http://www.ofvas.no/bilsalget-i-okto...tegory785.html
Tesla's November numbers for Norway were bad. Last year sold 996, this year 445. Jaguar sold 366 compared to 34 prior year. The ipace is hurting Tesla.

http://www.ofvas.no/bilsalget-i-nove...tegory787.html

It says they sold 2,455 last December. I bet that is down huge.
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12-28-2018 , 09:22 AM
Anyone following the temp tag stuff? I want to credit this to incompetence but I’m not totally sure.
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12-28-2018 , 03:38 PM
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12-28-2018 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I don't like frauds and liars. I go off on people who push ICOs and penny stocks as well. It's nothing to do with Musk himself and everything to with him being a fraud and liar who's causing enormous waste and environmental damage.

No, Musk has been wonderful for my bank account.

WTF does this have to do with anything?? Elizabeth Holmes and Madoff were billionaires too. This is just showing your following of him is a partly a will-to-power nerd dream.

He's great at lying and hustling money, including vast sums of taxpayer money. He's one of the best money hustlers/fraudsters of our generation. Elizabeth Holmes had similar talents. Anyone in the world could make cars people LOVE if they receive $9 billion in paid-in capital and $5 bilion in government subsidies,money which could have gone to poor people or fusion research. In return for this vast $14 billion sum he's made a tiny number of highly environmentally damaging toys for rich people. Of course they love them! Rich people are getting fun, non-commercially-viable prototype sports cars with a $20K subsidy per car!


I'm a far better human being than Musk. Hobos are better human beings than Musk. Musk has had a massively negative effect on the environment and wealth. I on the other hand don't have a massively negative impact on the world. Ergo I am better.

Most of the great fraud weave this into the narrative, so that suckers like you lap it up and defend them. Nothing Musk does is helping "save the world". In fact, his massive misallocation of capital is bad for the world.


Clearly YOUR life be extremely miserable if you give me the same response to an (evidenced) critique of your hero that a Scientologist or feminist follower of Elizabeth Holmes would give. Stop enabling a fraud and liar bro. There are plenty of heros to choose from, why you're buttstopping a highly wasteful liar and fraud is beyond me. Even in his absolute best interpretation, Musk has zero skills except being a big balls dishonest money hustler.

If you want a hero, make a hero of Tom Mueller, the guy who built SpaceX with his genius. But he doesn't bang movie stars or throw out dopey meme references that nerds can get excited about. Your worship of Elon is so pathetic and dumb.
More likely to go to a border wall or aircraft carriers than something useful.
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12-29-2018 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pizarro1
That's pretty much the plan - I'd love it to go back to $350-370 range again and go short again
lets go
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