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09-13-2018 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Why on Earth would I do that? When the NYT interview with Elon came out and we all piled into puts in private chat, I told Brian I wasn't taking that as part of the bet because it was too easy/free money/almost cheating. That was a 5 bagger.

If Brian wants to buy out at a loss I might accept $900 or $950 of his $1000 for an early buyout, but other than that the bet will be concluded before 31st December
I'm more surprised that you missed the RIOT intraday trade; that was even easier than the TSLA news.
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09-13-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
loolollo,
I understand precisely zero about the weed stocks or the weed business so I don't trade it. Having kept half an eye on it I think there are plenty of amazing trade opportunities though if you understand how the bulls and bears think in that stock and how the news cycle plays out.
ahh alright, went long w/ very little research a while back just for the speculation frenzy element but unsure when to dump it...
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09-13-2018 , 06:11 PM
History says to dump it right after the US election
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09-13-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Why on Earth would I do that? When the NYT interview with Elon came out and we all piled into puts in private chat, I told Brian I wasn't taking that as part of the bet because it was too easy/free money/almost cheating. That was a 5 bagger.
I thought the whole point of the bet was to prove how easy it is get 500%. I smell bs
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09-14-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
I thought the whole point of the bet was to prove how easy it is get 500%. I smell bs
Oh ye of little faith. tsk tsk
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09-14-2018 , 01:49 PM
I just saw this for the first time. I jumped to page 5 and was disappointed to see that it was still January posts.

Where's the P&L update brah
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09-14-2018 , 01:55 PM
I have a year to turn to $1K into $6K with whatever trades I post here in real time any time before December 31st, or I owe Brian $500. It's not a trading log.
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09-14-2018 , 02:53 PM
I truly hope Tooth has some incredibly obscure trade, that only works on the last trading day of the year, that's a mortal lock.
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09-14-2018 , 04:13 PM
Wait am I missing something? Have there been zero trades done in the entire first 8 months of the year?
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09-14-2018 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tastychicken2
Wait am I missing something? Have there been zero trades done in the entire first 8 months of the year?
Welcome to the thread
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09-14-2018 , 09:48 PM
This thread has been ****ing clickbait for 8 months.
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09-14-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
This thread has been ****ing clickbait for 8 months.
That, or a practical lesson in how triple-digit roi traders think.
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10-05-2018 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
This thread has been ****ing clickbait for 8 months.

Into the tenth month now. The tease is getting boring. We need to see more exposed thigh and breasts, perhaps even a nipple or two.


If either of you wankers need help; I'm willing to rent you my financial consultant at an hourly rate. He never fails.

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10-05-2018 , 01:50 AM
i hope their real prop bet was either how much action gets booked itt or # posts itt in 2018
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10-05-2018 , 03:07 AM
I'm not surprised, I knew TS was mostly all talk. Good bet Brian.

20 BAGGGGERRRR
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10-05-2018 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wyman
i hope their real prop bet was either how much action gets booked itt or # posts itt in 2018
Both would be solid unders at this point in time
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10-05-2018 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
I'm not surprised, I knew TS was mostly all talk. Good bet Brian.

20 BAGGGGERRRR
This.
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10-05-2018 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
It's $1K to $6K.

$1000 is a meaningless amount of money, this is just for fun. Brian and I were having extended disagreements about the nature of risk and return, so I offered to take 2:1 odds (my $500 to his $1000) that I couldn't turn $1K into $6K by the end of the year. As a rational person, he snapped called - the odds if I have no edge have to be 5:1 at least I would say (I haven't run the math), and Brian, being a rational, numbers based fellow who follows orthodoxy, believes that no one has edges that large.

I think I'm about 95% to get there. That's what makes this bet sweet - we both think we are taking by far the best of it, so it's going to painful to pride if either of us lose.
****ing joke.


ban this loser the moment he loses this bet. i mean this is a ****ing joke at this point. TS wants to bet options where hes got a 95% winrate and can 6x a return in 1 trade.

TS track record:
short apple since $125. went to 220+
short tsla since $100. went to 370+
short bitcoin since $1k. went to 20k



Brian i hope the money is escrowed. TS is basically a fraud and not only should he be banned if he doesnt make a trade, but every single one of his posts should be permanently deleted from this forum.

Last edited by aggo; 10-05-2018 at 11:22 PM.
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10-06-2018 , 02:30 AM
There is nothing against the rules for making only a single bet. If you are going to try and make an outlandish return, you'd want to take the action that involves the most variance. So picking a single volatile trade that could moon or crash is quite reasonable.

For what it is worth, I don't think Tooth will be able to pull it off as time is running out. He still has 3 months though to prove me wrong so we'll see.
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10-06-2018 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by aggo
****ing joke.


ban this loser the moment he loses this bet. i mean this is a ****ing joke at this point. TS wants to bet options where hes got a 95% winrate and can 6x a return in 1 trade.

TS track record:
short apple since $125. went to 220+
short tsla since $100. went to 370+
short bitcoin since $1k. went to 20k
You know you're winning when people have to lie.

- I recommended LONG Tesla and against short at $100. It's right there in the first few pages of the Tesla thread. I've recommended long Tesla multiple times at $100, $150, $260, and short at $270, $350, $370, $313. I've nailed Tesla trading, no one disagrees at this point.

I called bitcoin a "strong buy" twice at $250 for over $1000. I never recommended short bitcoin until $6000 (reversed at $6500 when the CME came out, which I called "very bullish".). Then I recommended it as a good short at $17,500 when wankers like you were calling for $100K and losing people their money. I've nailed the trading of bitcoin.

I recommend you get banned for lying about people's records.

Meanwhile, my last three recent posted recommended real time trades (Tesla sold puts at $260, Tesla bought puts at $313, TLRY sold calls) in the last two months had crushing return and would have won the bet alone. People actually follow my short term trades and make very good money.

I have mixed track record long term (NFLX short 70% ago, AMZN 90% ago, along with many winners) but I've nailed 8/8 short term posted trade recommendations this year for around 1200% return cumulatively. Which is this thread is about. I've crushed trading this year and many people have followed. Seriously, go through the 2018 trading thread and read my recommendations of buy and sell and compare with the price. I've crushed it bro, over and over over.

I realized you're just a dumb sad clown losing his money at bitcoin (do you even trade, bro?), but if you actually read the trading or Tesla threads, you wouldn't be making this point.
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Brian i hope the money is escrowed. TS is basically a fraud and not only should he be banned if he doesnt make a trade, but every single one of his posts should be permanently deleted from this forum.
You do understand that the bet term is for one year? Not six months, not nine months, one year.

At the beginning of this thread i said very clearly that there are 1-3 high probability multi baggers per year. Which is why the bet term is one year. If nothing big comes in the next month or so, I'll just start posting a few regular trades to deprive Brian of his money.

Congratulations at sucking at trolling as well as trading and life. Swing and a miss bro. Sad clown is sad that his bitcoin is churning.

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10-06-2018 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
There is nothing against the rules for making only a single bet. If you are going to try and make an outlandish return, you'd want to take the action that involves the most variance. So picking a single volatile trade that could moon or crash is quite reasonable.

For what it is worth, I don't think Tooth will be able to pull it off as time is running out. He still has 3 months though to prove me wrong so we'll see.
uhh the 6x is easy with options. He can easily do that in 1 trade, but even as TS knows, his risk of ruin is still quite high in a vacuum because he has to make a bet that structured in a manner where the outcome is binary; he either goes to 6x or goes to $0.


This idea that he can do so with a 95% winrate, which is effectively what he claims his true odds are for winning this bet is just comical.

But then again i expect nothing less from a guy who thinks news is the only thing that moves the market.
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10-06-2018 , 03:13 AM
Do you want a piece of this aggo?

Brian got 2:1 and 75% of the term of the trade time is gone. I'll offer you a very generous 3:1 on $1000 (your $1000 to my $350), escrowed with a mod that I can get to $6000 from $1000 in the remaining time.

What do you say? Money where your mouth is?
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10-06-2018 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
You know you're winning when people when people have to lie.

- I recommended LONG Tesla and against short at $100. It's right there in the first few pages of the Tesla thread. I've recommended long Tesla multiple times at $100, $150, $260, and short at $270, $350, $370, $313. I've nailed Tesla trading, no one disagrees at this point.

I called bitcoin a "strong buy" twice at $250 for over $1000. I never recommended short bitcoin until $6000 (reversed at $6500 when the CME came out, which I called "very bullish".). Then I recommended it as a good short at $17,500 when wankers like you were calling for $100K and losing people their money. I've nailed the trading of bitcoin.

I recommend you get banned for lying about people's records.

Meanwhile, my last three recent posted recommended real time trades (Tesla sold puts at $260, Tesla bought puts at $313, TLRY sold calls) in the last two months had crushing return and would have won the bet alone. People actually follow my short term trades and make very good money.

I have mixed track record long term (NFLX short 70%, AMZN 90% ago, along with many winners) but I've nailed 8/8 short term posted trades recommendation this year for around 1200% return cumulatively. Which is this thread is about. I've crushed trading this year and many people have followed. Seriously, go through the 2018 trading thread and read my recommendations of buy and sell and compare with the price. I've crushed it bro, over and over over.

I realized you're just a dumb sad clown losing his money at bitcoin (do you even trade, bro?), but if you actually read the trading or Tesla threads, you wouldn't be making this point.
You do understand that the bet term is for one year? Not six months, not nine months, one year.

At the beginning of this thread i said very clearly that there are 1-3 high probability multi baggers per year. Which is why the bet term is one year. If nothing big comes in the next month or so, I'll just start posting a few regular trades to deprive Brian of his money.

Congratulations at sucking at trolling as well as trading and life. Swing and a miss bro. Sad clown is sad that his bitcoin is churning.
the one trade that matters because theres skin in the game = you are 0/0


That's the entire point of this thead, buddy. You talk insane amount of **** all the time, always talking out both sides of your mouth. You cant say that you had winning trades or theses on tesla for instance when for every time youve said its a good area to short, you can also be quoted 50x in the same thread as sayign you would never actually short tesla because of its fanatical investors.

As for the bitcoin stuff, you did say $250 was a good buy, but subsequently also said that $1k woudl be the top before it went back to $0. But it literally went from $250 straight to 20k. Big miss by any objective standard as you wouldve annihilated your account way before you couldbe shorted 17500.

And the trading stuff? Get off your fake high ground. Your job is to post 1 stupid trade and you still havent even accomplished this after talking unebleivable amounts of trash. As far as anyone in this thread is concerned, youre as much of a trader as I am

e.g. how anyone thats remotely intelligent can turn 1k into 20m in 5 years trading
how your true odds for winning this bet is at 95%
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10-06-2018 , 03:17 AM
See above. Money where your mouth is?

I never said $1K would be the top. I said "over $1000" (i.e. it'll reach at least that point, over the last high of $1000) from $250 before dying. There was no short recommendation at $1000, I was wary of short or long at that point. Besides, that was two years before the fact.

Tesla I've crushed trading and it's not close. Even the bulls admit that.

The 2018 trading thread has a number of strong specific short term option trade recommendations which have killed it this year for well over 1000%. Quite a few people follow every time I post recommendations for that very reason.
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10-06-2018 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Do you want a piece of this aggo?

Brian got 2:1 and 75% of the term of the trade time is gone. I'll offer you a very generous 3:1 on $1000 (your $1000 to my $350), escrowed with a mod that I can get to $6000 from $1000 in the remaining time.

What do you say? Money where your mouth is?
Fix your math.


& in no terms would I ever GIVE you odds when you self claimed true odds is 1:20


I think that speaks for itself
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