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03-11-2020 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by coordi
MOO2 is one of the goat video games. Trying to attack TS about contributing to a semi-dead forum is one of the woat angles to attack
MOO2 = Master of Orion?

loved that game

you ever play the predecessor/inspiration for it Pax Imperia?
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03-11-2020 , 01:15 PM
Oh my god, Master of Orion 2 IS one of the goat video games.
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03-11-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
MOO2 = Master of Orion?

loved that game

you ever play the predecessor/inspiration for it Pax Imperia?
Yeah. I've never even heard of pax imperia, but I don't really enjoy the original MOO, so I doubt I'd like it too much.

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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Oh my god, Master of Orion 2 IS one of the goat video games.
I still play a round a couple times a year. Still holds up today. It's crazy how I can play a game like GalCiv 3 and it's basically a scaled up version of a game made 20 years ago.
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03-11-2020 , 01:39 PM
I don't play video games much anymore but I need to figure out how to play this now.
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03-11-2020 , 01:43 PM
Gog.com boiiii

5.99 for 1+2
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03-11-2020 , 01:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Imperia - it was basically moo but was jankier 1993 graphics - at the time it was probably the most complex computer game in existence - way ahead of its time, you could spend hours just designing the armor plating on a single ship

way too much of my childhoold went into that game and the original Civilization
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04-14-2020 , 11:05 PM
Thought I'd read some classic 2p2 during the quaratine.

Thread should be renamed to "How to trade like a $800K trader with a 95% winrate". 71 pgs and the one and only trade.

Great times to be alive.


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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Bought 5x $262 SPY puts at 96c - for the bet
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Out at 91c on this rip. Account value: $962
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
<Tooth delivers his post trade trade press conference in walls of texts soon after>
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Originally Posted by aggo
Let me get this straight.

$spy is basically -8% MTD

TS bought ATM SPY puts and still went -80% on the trade.

So much for finding 95% winrate spots.
Spoiler:
Wake up BFI!
Spoiler:

Or am I too dumb to realize that everyone else knows Tooth is fake (and likely also psychotic)?

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04-14-2020 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
Tooth has been banned like 5 times, lol. Another handle he had was soothsayer. I wasn't going to bring his bans up because I genuinely feel bad for the guy. I know this forum is his life.

I think his bans were for racism. He was basically a laughing stock in this forum and politics. Times change.
Sad. Seriously though, I guess not having a real world wife/gf, family/friends, or full time job can turn someone into a bitter racist.
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04-14-2020 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Wake up BFI!

Or am I too dumb to realize that everyone else knows Tooth is fake (and likely also psychotic)?
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Sad. Seriously though, I guess not having a real world wife/gf, family/friends, or full time job can turn someone into a bitter racist.
If only you spent as much as improving your low IQ as you do obsessing over me...no wait, you'd still have a low IQ. Never mind. At least you've realized that the place to indulge your compulsion to attack to me and ferret out the real truth about tooth is here and not the 2020 trading thread where serious people like to discuss things that make money.

And I'm not racist - I hold the same views on race that mainstream Democrats did in 2005. I don't believe in institutional racism in 2020 and think that people of all races largely create their own lot in life in Western societies from their internalized cultural norms and natural ability. That makes me completely non-racist to normal people and Hitler to the lefties here.

I also have a gf.

I understand why it tilts a trader who's on record as saying he's happy with 10% year to know that there are traders who absolutely crush his returns (100+%/year consistently) - it's not easy staring your own incompetence in the face, especially when it's presented to you in an insulting package - but no one ever got better without realizing what an idiot he is first.
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04-14-2020 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I understand why it tilts a trader who's on record as saying he's happy with 10% year to know that there are traders who absolutely crush his returns (100+%/year consistently)
No, it tilts me when people lie and mislead.

Sorry man, I can't reconcile how someone who's profited as much as $800k in a year and makes 95% winners can perform as the way they performed in this thread. It's easier to believe in religion than to believe any of your claims.

Don't bother responding unless you have a way of proving your claims. I admit I'm probably the bigger idiot here for beating up on someone who likely suffers from psychosis.
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04-15-2020 , 04:42 AM
Why is this thread coming back to life, lol.

I don't even trade, but it was fun partaking in this thread that lasted 75 pages without much trading taking place at all. The drama between Tooth, TurtleTom, and the other characters is what made it great.
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04-20-2020 , 01:49 PM
Cliffs on what happened in this thread? Seems epic

Also tooth didn’t have a real money account until 2018? That’s what OP implied in his op. He was just trading with play money but considers himself this great expert?
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04-20-2020 , 04:33 PM
lol, missed this:
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
No, it tilts me when people lie and mislead.

Sorry man, I can't reconcile how someone who's profited as much as $800k in a year and makes 95% winners can perform as the way they performed in this thread. It's easier to believe in religion than to believe any of your claims.

Don't bother responding unless you have a way of proving your claims. I admit I'm probably the bigger idiot here for beating up on someone who likely suffers from psychosis.
You're definitely the bigger idiot, and not just from not knowing what psychosis is. Larry explained it to you. Go with Larry. You have a poverty of imagination, and people without imagination can't develop the heuristics to understand and predict reality well.
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Why is this thread coming back to life, lol.

I don't even trade, but it was fun partaking in this thread that lasted 75 pages without much trading taking place at all. The drama between Tooth, TurtleTom, and the other characters is what made it great.
Yep.
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Cliffs on what happened in this thread? Seems epic

Also tooth didn’t have a real money account until 2018? That’s what OP implied in his op. He was just trading with play money but considers himself this great expert?
Cliff notes:

- Brian believes the markets are mostly efficient and posts with dad-level appeals to conventional wisdom and little insight. I call him on it (post from the future: the markets are now proven highly inefficient).

- I challenge him to a bet at 2:1 that I can 6 bag a $1000 account in a year to make this point. And interesting discussion about the nature of risk and return begins, then the tards come in.

- I post no trades for 11 months

- October 2018 comes and I'm printing 25x my most at risk money for three months straight on the incredible volatility. He's squirming seeing the trade I'm making/calling in private chat. The market is so easy that I feel bad for him and decide to not post any "non-sporting"/layup trades - of which there are many - as the end of 2018 made me a lock to win and it just isn't cricket to have so much luck go my way.

- The peanut gallery gets angsty, and morons I've insulted for being morons come out of the woodwork, seeing an opportunity to increase the serotonin levels that I previously altered to the downside by calling it like I see it. They can't help themselves; it's pure automaton behavior.

- I post one trade for some fun. I exit at -$40. I post no more trades. I pay Brian immediately, but make a post about being broke in a basement unable to pay Brian and asking for forgiveness. All but one idiot (ASAP17) knows I'm kidding.

- This thread ends up like a Rorschach inkblot test for IQ, logical inference and memory. It's a honey trap for low IQ people I've insulted. grimReaper becomes the latest to fall victim to the thread, becoming convinced I'm a permabear who claims I make "95% winners" and is "psychotic". Proceeds to tard up 2p2 with his rampage (meanwhile I've made 2p2ers literal millions of dollars with two months of spot on analysis).

That about covers it.
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04-20-2020 , 04:43 PM
HAHAHAHA

WALL OF TEXT

YET ONE TRADE

WITH EACH WALL-OF-TEXT POST, YOU'RE DICK SHRINKS HALF AN INCH


but I felt bad for Brian. lol
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04-20-2020 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
HAHAHAHA

WALL OF TEXT

YET ONE TRADE

WITH EACH WALL-OF-TEXT POST, YOU'RE DICK SHRINKS HALF AN INCH


but I felt bad for Brian. lol
Tooth - but that was your first real money account? You didn’t make actual real money trades until fall 2018?

Grim what’s your version of events? Go bears btw
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04-20-2020 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Tooth - but that was your first real money account? You never made actual real money trades until fall 2018?

Grim what’s your version of events? Go bears btw
I've been trading verified real money since 2014 (my option buys are so large you can see them in the options market data history after I post the real time entry/exit). Here's an example. A bunch of us went to private chat so I stopped posting trades here any more as there was no point sharing great trades with toxic morons (see below).

Brain was making a joke.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
This thread ends up like a Rorschach inkblot test for IQ...
Case in point:
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
HAHAHAHA

WALL OF TEXT

YET ONE TRADE

WITH EACH WALL-OF-TEXT POST, YOU'RE DICK SHRINKS HALF AN INCH


but I felt bad for Brian. lol
At least you've figured out to attack me in the off topic thread rather than tard up content threads. Welcome to your journey on being house-trained.
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04-20-2020 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
That about covers it.
I haven't ever believed that markets are efficient.

Some details that you left out: Brian has incredibly nice hair for his age.
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04-20-2020 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
Tooth - but that was your first real money account? You didn’t make actual real money trades until fall 2018?

Grim what’s your version of events? Go bears btw
Go Bears! Among the regs, Tooth is known to be all talk. He claims to be 95%-winning trade (I'll try to dig up the post) with a +$800k year. I know it's a long thread, but it's pretty hilarious. Best gift BFI can offer. I posted cliffs a few posts back:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
If you're reliably making 100%/year with absolutely zero risk of ruin due to very fractional bet sizing, as I believe you're doing? - then making 600%/year with substantial risk of ruin follows automatically as close to a lock.
2018 is full of high and low volatility, but randomly 11 months later:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Bought 5x $262 SPY puts at 96c - for the bet
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Out at 91c on this rip. Account value: $962
(no more trades. but walls of texts follow)

His excuses:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I was having sex at 2pm after waiting all day for the fed, and this situation happened exactly as expected:
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The market is so easy that I feel bad for him and decide to not post any "non-sporting"/layup trades - of which there are many - as the end of 2018 made me a lock to win and it just isn't cricket to have so much luck go my way.
This is how stupid Tooth really is. He actually expects us to believe that he felt bad for Brian. If that were true, he could've won the bet and not accepted Brian's money.

But don't forget:

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
And I haven't claimed high returns - my best year is $800K
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04-20-2020 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
This is how stupid Tooth really is. He actually expects us to believe that he felt bad for Brian.
As stupid as it sounds, that did indeed happen. I was following the particular trade (IIRC, it was a TSLA trade), and saying that he was silly not only for not simply claiming victory, but also for missing another clear layup trade that came shortly afterwards that also would've won the bet without any particular need for pity.
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04-20-2020 , 06:22 PM
Yeah 2018 was endless layups. It was fun times. As for that Tesla bet you mentioned, I told Brian before taking it that those Tesla puts were 5+ baggers and that it was so goddamn easy I wouldn't include it in the bet as it wouldn't be sporting. A few of us made 5 bags on that. Were you in on it? I know gbp was.
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04-20-2020 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Yeah 2018 was endless layups. It was fun times. As for that Tesla bet you mentioned, I told Brian before taking it that those Tesla puts were 5+ baggers and that it was so goddamn easy I wouldn't include it in the bet as it wouldn't be sporting. A few of us made 5 bags on that. Were you in on it? I know gbp was.
Yeah, IIRC I followed it for a dime, but then there was another trade (I forgot what) that was so blatantly obvious that I was shocked that you missed it and that was the one I was more focused on.
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04-20-2020 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Go Bears! Among the regs, Tooth is known to be all talk. He claims to be 95%-winning trade (I'll try to dig up the post) with a +$800k year. I know it's a long thread, but it's pretty hilarious. Best gift BFI can offer. I posted cliffs a few posts back:

2018 is full of high and low volatility, but randomly 11 months later:

(no more trades. but walls of texts follow)

His excuses:

This is how stupid Tooth really is. He actually expects us to believe that he felt bad for Brian. If that were true, he could've won the bet and not accepted Brian's money.

But don't forget:
This thread really is a fish trap. It blew your mind that people reliably make 100%/year, contrasting that with your fish skills/mind being happy at making 10%/year even in bull markets is when you really lost your marbles. Not that you ever had many - poor understanding of social context, very poor understanding of people, low verbal reasoning skills, low intellectual curiosity and low ability to judge the efficacy of your own heuristics are limiting factors that you have, but they've definitely been compounded by you falling into rage/conspiracy tilt thinking you've unmasked a great conspiracy that no one sees is just hilarious. You're so deep in the crazy, so completely owned.

Even after literally seeing me call the market perfectly from ATH to bottom reversal with perfect analysis - including predicting in advance what would cause the bottoming and having dozens of 2p2ers thanking me for making and saving them a lot of money - you still don't get it. It's amazing. I think you're so deep into crazy that even morishita's testimony above - a long time even keeled poster literally calling true what I claimed and you said was obviously a lie - will sway you. It's glorious.

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04-20-2020 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Morishita System
As stupid as it sounds, that did indeed happen, despite the ridiculousness of feeling bad for someone who can best be described as "ruggedly handsome." I was following the particular trade (IIRC, it was a TSLA trade), and saying that he was silly not only for not simply claiming victory, but also for missing another clear layup trade that came shortly afterwards that also would've won the bet without any particular need for pity.
Fyp
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04-20-2020 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
This thread really is a fish trap. It blew your mind that people reliably make 100%/year, contrasting that with your fish skills/mind being happy at making 10%/year even in bull markets is when you really lost your marbles. Not that you ever had many - poor understanding of social context, very poor understanding of people, low verbal reasoning skills, low intellectual curiosity and low ability to judge the efficacy of your own heuristics are limiting factors that you have, but they've definitely been compounded by you falling into rage/conspiracy tilt thinking you've unmasked a great conspiracy that no one sees is just hilarious. You're so deep in the crazy, so completely owned.

Even after literally seeing me call the market perfectly from ATH to bottom reversal with perfect analysis - including predicting in advance what would cause the bottoming and having dozens of 2p2ers thanking me for making and saving them a lot of money - you still don't get it. It's amazing. I think you're so deep into crazy that even morishita's testimony above - a long time even keeled poster literally calling true what I claimed and you said was obviously a lie - will sway you. It's glorious.
Wow, it never ends with you. Endless talk, never any results. Classic internet clown. Btw, how much did you lose on the rally, calling for -70%, after I told you how wrong that was (LMAO)? I wonder why don't you take up Malachii's offer and screenshot your results? Just more talk and excuses.

The whole point of the bet was to prove how easy it was get 6-bagger. Period. And now you want to us believe that trade was too easy. Dude, you are indeed ******ed if you believe anyone is going to buy any of this. Level-1 thinker.

You literally spend all day on the forums stroking your small Eastern European bank account with your right hand, while posting empty, garbage wall-of-text with your left. Yes, you are psychotic and extremely insecure. And lol at bringing in Morishita. Pretty much all the regs here doubt your claims or what you banned bro, don't you get it?
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04-21-2020 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Wow, it never ends with you. Endless talk, never any results. Classic internet clown. Btw, how much did you lose on the rally, calling for -70%, after I told you how wrong that was (LMAO)?
Back to lying again. I never called for "-70%" during this rally, and you never told me "how wrong it was". The only thing you have after self-owning as thoroughly as you did above is pure lies.

In reality, I predicted the drop at ATHs perfectly, on perfect reasoning about corona, told people to hold down to 2200, and I predicted a rip off lows in exactly the way it happened.

Here's me explaining exactly how this will play out and why:

March 16th, 7 days before the low, explaining how this would play out and what could bring a rip:
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Is the future going to be scarier than the present? Is it going to get a lot worse before it gets better? Then hold short. But whether you should cover depends in part on what you hold (puts, short index or stocks etc)

One risk is that the loony toon Democrats stop their politicking and pass the fiscal stimulus measures that Trump proposed last week, now that they see the inappropriate monetary stimulus Fed measures didn't work. That could bring a rip because it brings more security to business and economic outcomes.
March 19, explaining why monetary stimulus didn't work (which I also predicted)
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
...That's the idea of this fiscal stimulus. Trump proposed the stimulus last week which would have been way better and calmed the markets, but the Democrats opposed it so it went nowhere. So the central banks went with monetary stimulus (fed actions) which was really dumb and had the opposite effect.
I then left 2p2 for a week because of another toxic ****** like you. Here's me in a private email calling the exact bottom and the rip to $2500+ if the stimulus bill passed (it did for $2 trillion).



This would have been posted on 2p2 except I was taking a break because I got tired of rank unselfaware idiocy such as yours. How much money do pieces of **** like you cost people?

After coming back on the 27th I explain to people who don't get it what happened and what the future holds:
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
20+% rip in a few days isn't that hard to understand - massive fiscal stimulus and the proven political will for same (there were 10% down days as Democrats balked at the bill passed just now when Trump/Mnuchin wanted it two weeks ago) have taken bankruptcy fears off the table for most companies now, so you can take risk sanely and wait it out. With income support in the bill, people also don't need to drain their stock holdings to stash safety money. It becomes semi-sane to buy a huge discount and wait it out, because there's a reasonable chance everything will stay alive and get back to normal at some point. That wasn't possible before fiscal stimulus hit.

The next stage is probably despair as things get worse (US won't peak until late April at best), more business shut/lay off, defaults increase, and people see increasing chance of major ongoing economic impacts and collapses even with the government stimulus (government can't save everyone). That will take a little bit to get properly going.
Contrast this with you "I thought it would be -70% during this rally" pure lie. You're a piece of trash; your only out when you self own like you did above is denial and pure lies to cover that denial.

Your tiny brain can't accept or even see what reality is, and you tard up threads and create a toxic environment as a result. Here's me absolutely killing the analysis on oil, saving people a LOT of money, yet you tard up yet another thread even when presented with evidence or me reading the market very well:

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Eh, you don't know that. Travel will be restricted for a long time in much of the world, until we get a vaccine or viable treatment. Consumer discretionary spending will be way down in much of the world. It all adds up to a huge prolonged drag on oil demand.

I agree it will go up eventually, but when is anyone's guess and not a thesis. Personally I'm waiting for at least one oil price benchmark from somewhere in the world to go negative (they pay you to take the oil) before getting long.
Tooth,

You've been pretty spot on this thing since the beginning. What's going to happen next? More, importantly how can i make lots of money ?
Here's your toxic loser response to someone saying thanks:
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Lol at Tooth "predicting it". There's plenty of sources that were talking about it days before he posted it.
If this was so easy to see coming, why didn't you post this? Most thought negative oil was crazy when I predicted it, when it was actually close to certain.

The reason I got this correct, like corona and the effect of fiscal vs monetary stimulus, is because I don't rely on anyone else to think for me. Instead I do pure first-principles analysis. For oil, it was simple: -30% demand and -10% supply = negative prices once storage fills up. That it's.

Even people who dislike me think I add a lot of value here with this first principles analysis, which I post for free, and yet toxic dickheads like yourself discourage people like me - who do excellent analysis and make people lots of money - from posting, and provide zero worth yourself.
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The whole point of the bet was to prove how easy it was get 6-bagger. Period. And now you want to us believe that trade was too easy. Dude, you are indeed ******ed if you believe anyone is going to buy any of this. Level-1 thinker.
The only Period is your tiny level 2 brain, which thinks everyone else is on level 1 when they're actually on level 7. It's comical to watch you flail around. Like I said, you have a functionally-******ed level of understanding of your own intelligence, of other people, and the inadequacy of your own heuristics. You're pure intellectual trash and that won't change until you see that (and recognize your intellectual and trading betters - pretty much anyone on this forum).

And I don't "want you" to believe anything. I literally predicted that you're too stupid to evaluate evidence properly. And here we are, with you being too stupid to evaluate evidence properly.
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You literally spend all day on the forums stroking your small Eastern European bank account with your right hand, while posting empty, garbage wall-of-text with your left. Yes, you are psychotic and extremely insecure. And lol at bringing in Morishita.
I didn't in "bring in" morishita. You're going full conspiracy ****** now. Apparently in your silly head I'm calling in favors now with other posters to boost my rep?

Morishita is actually spoiling the fun by volunteering that info, but as predicted, you are such a raging dumbass so deep down the rabbit hole of crazy that no evidence will sway you.

That happened to turtletom too and it was fun to watch, I posted literal real time trades on 2p2 with detailed numerous trade screenshots and confirms when asked and he said it was "easily faked". Now you have another regular, well regarded long time poster vouching that exactly what I said happened is true, and you're essentially calling him a liar.

I called it the "Henry17" effect. It happened to other similarly low verbal reasoning skill, social ******s like yourself. They're convinced they spot a liar and get it so deep in their heads that they can see the truth. It's basic low IQ at work. You are fully owned at this point and you don't even realize it.
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Pretty much all the regs here doubt your claims or what you banned bro, don't you get it?
Now claiming false support for what you believe. Let's do an experiment: survivor, me vs you, among "the regs", loser eats at a ban. Deal? Let's see who's "psychotic" and who provides more value. If you actually believe what you say that most regs think like the above and want "the psychotic liar" gone, this is your way.

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