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Tooth v. Brian completely unofficial and illegal prop bet Tooth v. Brian completely unofficial and illegal prop bet

01-10-2018 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
Everyone knows you can't spend money. You can only spend p-values.

It will take at least a few annual bets at least before I am convinced that it is likely that 500% gains can be had more than 1/3 of years. That will, of course, be fun.
Yeah, three years in a row would be a lot of fun. As much fun as any Tom Sawyer, fence painting bet has been in a long while.

edit- I added an edit to experiment with smiley faces. I wanted Brian to know that he was clearly the Tom Sawyer here. As much as I love TS, three years of these bets for a thousand dollars would be very fun indeed.

Last edited by yukoncpa; 01-10-2018 at 01:54 AM.
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01-10-2018 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Praetor1an
Why is this bet supposed to be illegal? Did they make it at Bushwood?
Awesome, totally awesome.
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01-10-2018 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by piepounder
not sure what this is proving. you are knowledgeable...Id bet against you but you may know how to play double leveraged etfs and this is a breeze. not going to bite. love to watch tho
He'd have a hard time getting a 500% gain using leveraged ETFs.

However, it isn't meant to "prove" anything. It is a bet.

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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
It's proving that Brian is willing to give me free money because he likes me so much.

How are double leveraged ETFs "a breeze"? If money was as easy/brainless as buying double leveraged ETFs, everyone would be buying them. If you think 6x is +EV at 2:1, plenty of people in this thread would be willing to give you that 2:1. Real time posted trades are foolproof as proof.
Haha!
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01-10-2018 , 01:31 PM
I'll bet 125 on tooth @4:1

125 vs your 500, full escrow both sides, also willing to hold the 625 in something like eth for added fun
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01-10-2018 , 04:19 PM
For the sake of hopefully seeing this bet go, I'm willing to escrow as long as there's a way to do it that doesn't require any real risk/work on my part. :P
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01-10-2018 , 05:07 PM
I'd be down to bet on Tooth winning...$50 to win $200. Or if u want to do crypto 1 LTC to win 5 LTC. Depending on who you are I'm not sure how worried about someone else escrowing I'd be.
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01-10-2018 , 06:45 PM
Different odds and values

Odd
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01-11-2018 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
I know this is just to get a line going, I'll put 150 to your 500, w escrow
I'll book this if the dude's the thread is about put up the money. It's no fun for me if Tooth doesn't lose a lunch, even my 500 to your 100 if you want, like the intrepid "investor" said in the OP and has now changed his mind about.

For escrow, if he's willing, I'd feel comfy with Searix, as he's been around forever and if the somehow was robbed of all his cash, I'm sure he'd hook the winner up with a sweet poker table. If he doesn't care to, or you know someone better, I'm open.





I'm 54% sure that this bet will not run a full calendar year b4 it is either settled or welched. I know nothing about Brian, so he must be a decent person and reasonable poster here. TS otoh is literally the only persone I've blocked in 5 years on any forum on the interwebs. Don't know him, don't know anything about him, not even a,s,l. But, I DO know, that whenever I read early parts of long running threads, he's surely in there saying, "this can't last because.. F.. U.. D...", "it's a SCAME", "only way to play this is a heavy short". Like, IDK how the hell a guy who thinks nothing is good can even make money.




EDIT: damn i knew i shouldn't grunch... those terms are good 3 posts up. I like the idea of a crypto escrow for added funsies.. do a multisig or something

Last edited by spoonfox; 01-11-2018 at 11:53 AM. Reason: grunch grinch
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01-11-2018 , 08:48 PM
No chance at all that TS has as big of an edge as he claims, and even if he wins the bet it doesn't mean anything. To get any actual probability that TS claims are true you'd have to look at a really long and voluminous trading history. Just settle the bet right now by showing us all your portfolio.
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01-12-2018 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
It's proving that Brian is willing to give me free money because he likes me so much.

How are double leveraged ETFs "a breeze"? If money was as easy/brainless as buying double leveraged ETFs, everyone would be buying them. If you think 6x is +EV at 2:1, plenty of people in this thread would be willing to give you that 2:1. Real time posted trades are foolproof as proof.
they are a get out of jail card. you can leverage if stuck, increasing your chances quite a bit
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01-12-2018 , 12:40 AM
if ur stuck ill help you u out and find ways to maximize your leverage. not sure brian wants me helping you
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01-12-2018 , 12:44 AM
if you are stuck there will be 2x bitcoin etfs you can swingtrade later this year. ok ok i just say the bet isnt that big...I just like to think of ways to cheat :P
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01-14-2018 , 03:02 AM
So the bet is over the second you hit 6k?
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01-14-2018 , 03:06 AM
Tooth buy crypto and you'll be there by mid-February
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01-14-2018 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spoonfox
I'll book this if the dude's the thread is about put up the money. It's no fun for me if Tooth doesn't lose a lunch, even my 500 to your 100 if you want, like the intrepid "investor" said in the OP and has now changed his mind about.

For escrow, if he's willing, I'd feel comfy with Searix, as he's been around forever and if the somehow was robbed of all his cash, I'm sure he'd hook the winner up with a sweet poker table. If he doesn't care to, or you know someone better, I'm open.





I'm 54% sure that this bet will not run a full calendar year b4 it is either settled or welched. I know nothing about Brian, so he must be a decent person and reasonable poster here. TS otoh is literally the only persone I've blocked in 5 years on any forum on the interwebs. Don't know him, don't know anything about him, not even a,s,l. But, I DO know, that whenever I read early parts of long running threads, he's surely in there saying, "this can't last because.. F.. U.. D...", "it's a SCAME", "only way to play this is a heavy short". Like, IDK how the hell a guy who thinks nothing is good can even make money.




EDIT: damn i knew i shouldn't grunch... those terms are good 3 posts up. I like the idea of a crypto escrow for added funsies.. do a multisig or something

id take that...500 to my 100...where Im betting toothsayer wins. get anyone to escrow that you trust...and I want it held in a crypto wallet in something normal. lets go with ether. winner gets the gains plus escrow. you find the willing escrow partner because you are putting up more and ill most likely go along with your choice
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01-14-2018 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by spoonfox
I'll book this if the dude's the thread is about put up the money. It's no fun for me if Tooth doesn't lose a lunch, even my 500 to your 100 if you want, like the intrepid "investor" said in the OP and has now changed his mind about.

For escrow, if he's willing, I'd feel comfy with Searix, as he's been around forever and if the somehow was robbed of all his cash, I'm sure he'd hook the winner up with a sweet poker table. If he doesn't care to, or you know someone better, I'm open.





I'm 54% sure that this bet will not run a full calendar year b4 it is either settled or welched. I know nothing about Brian, so he must be a decent person and reasonable poster here. TS otoh is literally the only persone I've blocked in 5 years on any forum on the interwebs. Don't know him, don't know anything about him, not even a,s,l. But, I DO know, that whenever I read early parts of long running threads, he's surely in there saying, "this can't last because.. F.. U.. D...", "it's a SCAME", "only way to play this is a heavy short". Like, IDK how the hell a guy who thinks nothing is good can even make money.




EDIT: damn i knew i shouldn't grunch... those terms are good 3 posts up. I like the idea of a crypto escrow for added funsies.. do a multisig or something
Ok, I'll still honor the 125 to 500 I offered , just use jalex for escrow?

Also in for crypto
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01-16-2018 , 01:56 AM
I think it's unworkable because jalex doesn't crypto.
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01-16-2018 , 04:33 AM
lol at all the dirty pikers in this thread trying to fleece people (although I'd expect no less from twoplustwo). I'm down to bet on Tooth just for the entertainment value. Let me know when a price has been set and there are some actual trades happening, and I'll put up $100 against whatever the market price is (as long as I consider it reasonable) as long as my counter party is a reputable BFI'er who has been around for a while. No need to escrow, if you really want to fleece someone over $100 then you have bigger issues to worry about.

Also, in the extremely unlikely event that Toothsayer goes AWOL (i.e., gets hit by a bus or whatever), I'll pay up at the end of the year provided he hasn't already won the bet.

Let the games begin!

Last edited by Malachii; 01-16-2018 at 04:38 AM.
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01-16-2018 , 11:46 AM
I’d also like some action on the “won’t get 500%” side if and when this happens.
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01-16-2018 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
I think it's unworkable because jalex doesn't crypto.
Yeah, I'm def not into that, doesn't mean I wouldn't spend 10 minutes settting up something.

I don't really want to escrow a bunch of little teeny bets, more meant I'd escrow for Tooth/Brian if needed to make the bet go. If they don't need it, I'm cool with being lazy.
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01-17-2018 , 11:07 AM
Yeah bet is on. If I don't have real time posted proven trades taking me over $6000 by December 31, starting from $1000, I owe Brian $500. If I do, he owes me $1000.

If any of my haters want to make some money betting against me, the odds being offered to you in this thread are incredible considering I need to make 500% in a year to not lose. The average market return is 10% a year, or 50x lower than that. Should be a snap call if you believe I suck. Money where your mouth is?
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01-17-2018 , 06:22 PM
It's funny - just from reading this thread, I'm guessing that my views regarding market inefficiency probably align more closely with Brian than with Tooth, but if I was going to place a bet, I'd take Tooth's side.
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01-17-2018 , 06:31 PM
Just use options, put it on one trade, go for the gold
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01-17-2018 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities
It's funny - just from reading this thread, I'm guessing that my views regarding market inefficiency probably align more closely with Brian than with Tooth, but if I was going to place a bet, I'd take Tooth's side.
It is a gambling forum after all!

Personally I consider it a hedge. If he wins his posting will be insufferable for a very long time, unless I win money in which case it's going to seem hilarious.
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01-18-2018 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Yeah bet is on. If I don't have real time posted proven trades taking me over $6000 by December 31, starting from $1000, I owe Brian $500. If I do, he owes me $1000.

If any of my haters want to make some money betting against me, the odds being offered to you in this thread are incredible considering I need to make 500% in a year to not lose. The average market return is 10% a year, or 50x lower than that. Should be a snap call if you believe I suck. Money where your mouth is?
I definitely don't hate you, I just know you're full of ****. I'm sure others feel the same. As I said before, the results of this bet mean nothing. Whether you win it or lose it has almost nothing to do with your skill and everything to do with luck. I've made 500% in a week before. It means nothing.

You could prove all of us wrong by showing us your billion dollar portfolio.
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