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10-10-2018 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Thanks, man:


Ouch, bro. Stock is down $110 since then. How much are you down not listening to someone far smarter than yourself?
#stockpricebro
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10-10-2018 , 02:10 PM
Tooth is the best poster in BFI. I know there are many others that agree.
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10-10-2018 , 02:20 PM
"Aspie cultdaddy"
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10-10-2018 , 02:40 PM
This thread needs a theme song and this is the one:

BTM Vs The Tooth - whos the one?







Lyrics for those hard of hearing:


Well, now everybody cryin' 'bout the seventh son
But in the whole round world there is only one
And I'm the one, yes, I'm the one, I'm the one, I'm the one
I'm the one they call the seventh son

Well, I can tell your future before it comes to pass
And I can do things for you that make your heart feel glad
Look at the skies and predict the rain
I can tell when a woman's got another man

I'm the one, yes, I'm the one, I'm the one, I'm the one
I'm the one they call the seventh son

Now I can hold you close and I can squeeze you tight
And I can make you cry for me both day and night
And I can heal the sick and even raise the dead
And make you little girls talk out of your head

I'm the one, yes, I'm the one, I'm the one, I'm the one
I'm the one they call the seventh son

Now I can talk these words that sound so sweet
I can make your little heart even skip a beat
I can take you, baby, hold you in my arms
And make the flesh quiver on your lovely bones

I'm the one, yes, I'm the one, I'm the one, I'm the one
I'm the one they call the seventh son

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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10-10-2018 , 05:21 PM
No what this thread need is someone with balls to take the challenge at the last moment of the year like right now.

So i initiate portfolio buy in of 1k with 25% of the money for intel november 16 47 calls at any time you can get them at open tomorrow (any price short of a gap up of 2$ of course you know what imean) say anywhere near 1-1.2 range (or better if we drop at open again) .


This is how you do it when it hurts. (selling puts out of the money as volatility rockets also works here - probably better for people prepared to own stock but not for this challenge)

Boom.


Lets see what comes next.

Last edited by masque de Z; 10-10-2018 at 05:34 PM.
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10-11-2018 , 03:36 AM
How can you be a professional trader and not make any trades?

TS must fold pre with 100% of his range.


Or maybe I just have Aspergers….
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10-11-2018 , 07:02 AM
Also its very easy to prove trading record.

All you need to do is take a video of a phone as it is browsing trading history of trades mentioned in advance of them happening. You cannot fake a live video screen of a phone from another phone or camera.

Also trading these days can happen commission free through robinhood or similar platforms.

Now on to a scary open and lets hope the price is good. The lower the better, let the panic of idiots create a mega trade.

If it crashes further i will triple position later for another 25%.


This is win win, either the trades work well or Trump goes to elections with crashed market. EXCELLENT justice and ethical arbitrage!
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10-11-2018 , 03:06 PM
In at 0.98$ some time ago this session.
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10-11-2018 , 03:20 PM
Lets see some Balls by the two protagonists.
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10-11-2018 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
How can you be a professional trader and not make any trades?

TS must fold pre with 100% of his range.


Or maybe I just have Aspergers….
He's too busy travelling Europe. You wouldn't understand.
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10-11-2018 , 06:29 PM
Market is crashing but it is a buy signal.

So if i go a little crazy about it i will triple position and use the rest cash in deep at the money puts and then because earnings are coming volatility rally will protect me for 7-8 days during which a big move can happen either way but mostly upwards.

Intel can really see 48 here on a proper rebound if this turns around and proves a fake crash.

If afraid just buy very long term leaps here like strike 40 year 2021 or whatever and keep doubling position if the crash happens. Crashes are beautiful things. Embrace them by being already in cash and positioned to buy when the madness happens.

Its not rational to have a Kelly betting account and not be 75% cash at all times usually or in some hedged position equivalent.

Also if very afraid of the near term future, selling put leaps is great too if prepared to own stock by then.
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10-11-2018 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Lets see some Balls by the two protagonists.
Not much for me to do but wait
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10-12-2018 , 02:36 AM
To get 6x1 result on your money in one year with say 1 good edge trade every 15 days or 12*2=24 trades you need to have typically an edge of >69% on bets that get destroyed or double.

To get the same with 1 trade every week you need an edge of >63%


Those are very hard to get to be fair.

To achieve such results you need either a very well informed option mega hedged trade or some crypto rally event or to be a very well informed person that deals with all kinds of new high tech and financial/ap etc ipo companies that can rally the core "cash" equivalent position while the options do the rest.

Like basically research to death 20 good companies and park money there and when an option edge happens liquidate and buy the option etc then recover back the money to the top 20.

You need insider info about what is hot and will become useful in a few months.


In my experience 55-60% edge is possible but only 20-30 times per year on a good company's options.

So imagine one does something that generally is somewhat irresponsible but aggressive; develop a set of 5-10 companies that average 50% in a year after tremendous research and insider info that only happens if one is invested in the process of emerging new technology and services from a personal professional connections environment (you work in some high tech industry that uses or competes with many other companies and have the chance to learn how many companies work daily in interactions with products and companies you use in your work heavily) then play a kelly game with 60% option results for 2 times per month for 3 different good companies resulting in 72 trades of 60% edge.
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10-12-2018 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DeezNuts
Tooth is the best poster in BFI. I know there are many others that agree.
He's definitely up there, but on the flip side the tooth haters are uncontested in being by far the worst posters in this sub. Tooth's biggest flaw is wasting too much time defending himself against these morons.
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10-12-2018 , 04:42 AM
Tooth's biggest flaw is no credibility. To naturally sceptical posters he comes across as a keyboard warrior with no life and no skin in the game. This thread isn't doing him any favours.

I mean, not long ago he was advising coltrandedog, likely the richest person to ever post on 2+2, to take profits on BTC before it crumbles, lol.
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10-12-2018 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMVP
Tooth's biggest flaw is no credibility. To naturally sceptical posters he comes across as a keyboard warrior with no life and no skin in the game. This thread isn't doing him any favours.

I mean, not long ago he was advising coltrandedog, likely the richest person to ever post on 2+2, to take profits on BTC before it crumbles, lol.
coltranedog (by his own admission) got rich by getting lucky while taking on way too much risk so it's pretty silly to bow to him as an authority just because he has a lot of money

same goes for BTC... many of the guys who got rich aren't people who are likely to stay rich or invest the money well in the future
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10-12-2018 , 04:53 AM
and tooth has far more credibility than any of the fools who constantly argue with him. that's apparent to anyone with a little knowledge and passable reasoning skills.
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10-12-2018 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
coltranedog (by his own admission) got rich by getting lucky while taking on way too much risk so it's pretty silly to bow to him as an authority just because he has a lot of money

same goes for BTC... many of the guys who got rich aren't people who are likely to stay rich or invest the money well in the future
He took a big risk to kickstart his career (the early 2000's Lakers if I recall correctly), to say he was lucky to be the biggest winner in NBA betting for several years is pretty ridiculous.

And then he bought into BTC sub $250, again 'lucky' I guess. But yeah, let's all fall in love with the anonymous millionaire trader who somehow never posts a trade beforehand and somehow has all day to post nonsense on 2+2. Cool.

You come across as a clueless lacky.
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10-12-2018 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
He's definitely up there, but on the flip side the tooth haters are uncontested in being by far the worst posters in this sub. Tooth's biggest flaw is wasting too much time defending himself against these morons.
Reminds me of Henry posting in OOT

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Originally Posted by TheMVP
He took a big risk to kickstart his career (the early 2000's Lakers if I recall correctly), to say he was lucky to be the biggest winner in NBA betting for several years is pretty ridiculous.

And then he bought into BTC sub $250, again 'lucky' I guess. But yeah, let's all fall in love with the anonymous millionaire trader who somehow never posts a trade beforehand and somehow has all day to post nonsense on 2+2. Cool.

You come across as a clueless lacky.
How many times do people have to point out this isn't true?
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10-12-2018 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by phantom_lord
Reminds me of Henry posting in OOT
Non-0% chance TS and Henry are the same person for sure.
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10-12-2018 , 10:09 AM
11-ish weeks left to make a trade.
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10-12-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMVP
And then he bought into BTC sub $250, again 'lucky' I guess.
if you want to credit anyone's bitcoin riches to great foresight you'll have to show me they sold the vast majority of their holdings above $12k or so

the reality is most of these brilliant crypto investors on 2+2 were holding BTC because everyone in their circles was doing it or because they were using it to play online poker or otherwise transfer money. subsequently some got rich from ICO ponzis while others lost all their gains buying into the top of the ponzi bubble. close to none actually knew what they were doing.

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You come across as a clueless lacky.
only to the truly clueless
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10-12-2018 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNuts
Tooth is the best poster in BFI. I know there are many others that agree.
+1


His insults are highly entertaing, the sound logic on trading is a bonus
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10-12-2018 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
He's definitely up there, but on the flip side the tooth haters are uncontested in being by far the worst posters in this sub. Tooth's biggest flaw is wasting too much time defending himself against these morons.
Totally disagree, i appreciate the time he takes to embarass them, in the long run it probably helps some of them
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10-12-2018 , 12:20 PM
This thread explains why this subforum is a total joke, non stop talk and zero action. Should be a page long instead it's 10 of edick swinging. The idea that there has been zero trades with some of the best trading days in years so far this year is laughable.

Brian please let us know that TS pays you when you win, wouldn't want his sterling reputation damaged by trying to duck payment which should be pennies for someone of his alleged net worth.
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