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12-10-2018 , 02:42 PM
It's just the typical projection you get from the far right - as can be seen from his previous post to Trolly. There's only one hate stalker here, and it's him.
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12-10-2018 , 02:46 PM
Yeah don't think I'm approving of the silly rhetorical style you've adopted.
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12-10-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Come on, that's well over the top.

@TS imo you can trust Jalfrezi as much as any anonymous poster if you want to bet with him. Re your bet - if you don't make a trade then can you and BTM run this again next year please.
Fact- Jalfrezi entered a bet with the intention of shooting an angle

Fact- Jalfrezi tried to collect payment for his angle shot

Fact- The opposition disputed the results and proposed judges settle

Fact- Jalfrezi decided on his own to declare the bet was void

Fact- Jalfrezi refused to have judges settle

Fact- It dragged on for weeks

Claim- Jalfrezi finally agreed to have judges. I didn't see it but I will believe it

You're not a bad guy chez, you're one of the few who are sane enough to think its a bad idea to stalk and threaten cable news hosts outside their home, but don't be a bimbo
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12-10-2018 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Do0rDoNot
Of course it matters. When the, by far, most vocal and obnoxious poster on BFI, who consistently derails thoughts and opinions with hyperconfident claims of absolute truth and relentless insults, cant post simple evidence of the success his access to truth has brought to him, he remains nothing more than a bigmouthed troll. I for one would rather hear others, who have actual real world experience, post their thoughts and have open dialogue than constantly be annoyed by some dickweeds pathetic brags.
If ToothSayer says 2+2=4, we know the statement is true. How much money he does or does not make or have doesn't change that fact.

Way too many posters refusing to simply use the ignore function and move on with their lives. They seem to rather mash the keyboard and demand things, seemingly under the delusion that they are going to magically rewire ToothSayer's brain.

You want it one way. It's the other way. Proceed accordingly.
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12-10-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
@TS imo you can trust Jalfrezi as much as any anonymous poster if you want to bet with him.
He's enough of angle shooter to know I'm legit, so he'd never bet with me.
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Re your bet - if you don't make a trade then can you and BTM run this again next year please.
I think intention is to keep betting until one of us taps out. I'll make the time shorter though as a year is too long. Maybe 3:1 in 3 months or something.
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12-10-2018 , 02:57 PM
This thread is sort of epic though. It got tarded up, and then it got politarded up. That's impressive.
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12-10-2018 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
He's enough of angle shooter to know I'm legit, so he'd never bet with me.
Rhetorical free rolling for advanced players

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I think intention is to keep betting until one of us taps out. I'll make the time shorter though as a year is too long. Maybe 3:1 in 3 months or something.
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12-10-2018 , 03:13 PM
Hot take: I think this whole thread is an elaborate pre-planned troll and BTM2 is in on it.
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12-10-2018 , 03:22 PM
In reality, I got sick of BTM trolling me so I offered the bet. In a way he goaded me into it. I could have shot him or seduced his wife, but gentlemen don't do the former and gentlemen with working eyeballs don't do the latter, so I offered a real money bet instead. He hastily accepted, being a rational guy who knows statistical +EV when he sees it but a bit weak on specifics.

Now the ****er has me in a 2:1 bet I'm less than 3:1 to win at this point. A potentially $500 lesson to learn not to be complacent when you have heaps of time and skill on your side.

It's not over yet though and the market is still nice and volatile.
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12-10-2018 , 03:33 PM
Next years bet - tooth has to bank a 5bagger while on safari. But it only counts if he is sidesaddling an elephant at the time and has a dime guiding him to ̶h̶e̶r̶ the bush.
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12-10-2018 , 04:26 PM
That's pretty impressively sustained trolling. Especially since Brian's drunk all the time
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12-10-2018 , 04:36 PM
You'll notice that the genius of it is that Brian doesn't really have to do any of the work. I believe that is his preference.
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12-10-2018 , 04:56 PM
I have inside knowledge that Mr. Tooth and Brian are actually the same person. And even if not, they should be.

I also have inside knowledge that at present Brian is living in someone's prison basement like a rat and is fed scraps of horsemeat through the bars. And Brian only works as much as he has to, and no more. He is a very smart and crafty fellow and he pays for my drinks when I visit so he has a soft spot for some people.

Brian is going to win the bet. Then it should be rolled over to next year. The afterglow will be just as good as this pre-glow thread. I predict Mr. Tooth will win next year thus maximizing his efforts and bolstering his ego into the stratosphere.
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12-10-2018 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Ironically, this makes you a liar. Overall, my short term recommended trades are huge winners. As are my option trades.
Just saw your post in the trading thread. I stand corrected. You closed your AAPL short for a 1% ($3) gain... nevermind that it went (7.5%) $13 against you. Great call! I'm sure if you didn't sell the short term low, you'd explaim "10 bagger" and make us think you bought weekly puts.

I guess if we wait long enough, the AMZN shorts you were supporting all throughout will become 2017 will become profitable to someday.

If you think I'm nitpicking, feel free to open a new thread with called "Tooth's trades". Don't have to post in exact real time.
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12-10-2018 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Just saw your post in the trading thread. I stand corrected. You closed your AAPL short for a 1% ($3) gain... nevermind that it went (7.5%) $13 against you. Great call! I'm sure if you didn't sell the short term low, you'd explaim "10 bagger" and make us think you bought weekly puts.

I guess if we wait long enough, the AMZN shorts you were supporting all throughout will become 2017 will become profitable to someday.

If you think I'm nitpicking, feel free to open a new thread with called "Tooth's trades". Don't have to post in exact real time.
Let your losers run and cut your winners short.

George Soros aka "ts"

Have a feeling getting out of that short is probably not +ev either. Im going to guess this is a solid fade. Would never have shorted at that level though so could be wrong. Btw letting a trade run that far against you and the taking profits the second it turns green is almost always suboptimal. Classic puke.

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12-11-2018 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Just saw your post in the trading thread. I stand corrected. You closed your AAPL short for a 1% ($3) gain... nevermind that it went (7.5%) $13 against you. Great call! I'm sure if you didn't sell the short term low, you'd explaim "10 bagger" and make us think you bought weekly puts.

I guess if we wait long enough, the AMZN shorts you were supporting all throughout will become 2017 will become profitable to someday.

If you think I'm nitpicking, feel free to open a new thread with called "Tooth's trades". Don't have to post in exact real time.
Lol making that thread would virtually guarantee TS prediction posts fall to zero very quickly
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12-11-2018 , 03:29 AM
Am I the only one who wants to see pics of turtletom's wife. We want the wedding ring in the picture too.
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12-11-2018 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by :::grimReaper:::
Just saw your post in the trading thread. I stand corrected. You closed your AAPL short for a 1% ($3) gain... nevermind that it went (7.5%) $13 against you. Great call! I'm sure if you didn't sell the short term low, you'd explaim "10 bagger" and make us think you bought weekly puts.

I guess if we wait long enough, the AMZN shorts you were supporting all throughout will become 2017 will become profitable to someday.

If you think I'm nitpicking, feel free to open a new thread with called "Tooth's trades". Don't have to post in exact real time.
Good God man, now I know you don't trade and don't read the trading thread. I have an amazing record for short term trades this year with nice returns. Lots of people followed along and made good money. And these are just the scraps I throw out.

I think the only thing I've ever sucked on is long term momo shorts - but they're long term. And even those have done well - for example the NFLX thread (which I recommended a long term ~1 year short which is 35% underwater) has a 140% profit short term options trade (entered and exited in real time) and another 100% profit long term options trade. Go read the thread, clown.

This cherry picking is just stupid. I've absolutely crushed in my posted short term trade recommendations this year.
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Originally Posted by turtletom
Let your losers run and cut your winners short.

George Soros aka "ts"

Have a feeling getting out of that short is probably not +ev either. Im going to guess this is a solid fade. Would never have shorted at that level though so could be wrong. Btw letting a trade run that far against you and the taking profits the second it turns green is almost always suboptimal. Classic puke.
It was a good short term short and a good cover. I'll walk it through for people who are interested and not functionally ******ed/incompetent traders like yourself. The market was puking and Apple was guaranteed to underperform and go into panic selling if that continued. Indeed, since the post, it heavily underperformed its peers, showing the shine has indeed gone off Apple (Apple is blue):



Two unpredictable things happened after the short: the fed pumped the market with multiple fed members making highly dovish comments. Then the Trump/Xi trade agreement happened and further massively pumped the market. You can see the effects on the other FANG. Despite this I held as Apple had a lot of weakness in it yet to shake out, and the Xi agreement started to look shakier.

Yesterday morning, China (who politically controls their own courts) gave a win to Qualcomm in their dispute with Apple, a win which bans iPhones with certain configurations from selling. This sent it down to $165, mostly on a misunderstanding of what this meant (Apple could still sell iPhones in China, just not an outdated iOS version). As this became understood, lots of buying started on Apple. This lifted the whole market strongly. The strength of that buying and the usual upcoming Christmas rally off these lows was enough for me to get out of the way at 1.3% profit. Apple is now 1.8% higher this morning, showing it was a great cover.

I pretty much nailed the trading of this - didn't do a freakout as it moved against on two massive market pumps, didn't cut it when it became profitable, but did cut in when it became obvious the short was going head into the red. As it is this morning had I not covered - It's $171.40 vs my cover at $168.8 yesterday which you think was bad. Dumb cucks are dumb. No wonder you need a wifemother to put food on your table.
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12-11-2018 , 07:41 AM
Lol. 1.8% is that even outside of the 40 day ATR? Nice to know all your trades go immediately in your favor. Oh wait....

Also, if your exit on that trade wasn't terrible I'll be very surprised.

I seriously don't need anymore proof that you aren't profitable. If you actually trade, which is unlikely, odds are near zero your profitable.

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12-11-2018 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
I seriously don't need anymore proof that you aren't profitable. If you actually trade, which is unlikely, odds are near zero your profitable.
Lol why would anyone care about the opinion of someone who obviously doesn't trade on whether TS trades?
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12-11-2018 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
Lol. 1.8% is that even outside of the 40 day ATR?
Nice to know all your trades go immediately in your favor. Oh wait....
I trade options, I don't short stocks. I sometimes throw out a few trades in the trading thread where I think there's a good spot. That trade isn't even relevant to anything except that ASAP wanted to bring it here when it moved against, and was butthurt when I ended up closing it for a profit, which is hilarious.
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Also, if your exit on that trade wasn't terrible I'll be very surprised.
Um, it's already an excellent exit, it's 1.5% higher today than when I posted the exit, on exactly what I said would happen (the market was entering a short term strong buyup period). I know you're ******ed but surely you aren't this ******ed?
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I seriously don't need anymore proof that you aren't profitable.
One trade idea which turned out 28% annualized is proof to you I'm not profitable? lol? No wonder your wifemother won't give you $300 discretionary spending money with this level of intelligence (the likely real reason you won't make a bet). You'll go broke in no time.
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If you actually trade, which is unlikely, odds are near zero your profitable.
A bet was offered for the bolded 3:1 in your favor. You proved you didn't really believe it, or are a coward, or don't have any money (I don't know which, but one is true).

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12-11-2018 , 08:32 AM
That exit you made should be a grade school primer on how to not get emotionally attached to the results of a trade.
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12-11-2018 , 08:35 AM
Also, if it was such a great trade idea, made in real time, why did you not put it in this thread as a bet winner?

If you say it wasn't a 95% winner or a sub optimal trade, then why bother posting it at all in the trading thread?
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12-11-2018 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
That exit you made should be a grade school primer on how to not get emotionally attached to the results of a trade.
Are you serious? The trade was up 4% and I let it run. Then the market gained strong buy fervor on news reversal, the short term Apple news that had sent it down that day was not as bad as feared, so it was clearly a spot where it was going to rip higher and was hence worth covering. Guess what? I said as much and that's what happened.

That you attribute psychological motivation to the close is comical, especially when I give precise reasons for doing it and those reasons come true.

Keep on clownin' bro. The bet is here waiting for you. As is study for your finals. They must be getting close.
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12-11-2018 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
Also, if it was such a great trade idea, made in real time, why did you not put it in this thread as a bet winner?

If you say it wasn't a 95% winner or a sub optimal trade, then why bother posting it at all in the trading thread?
Mind blown much? I didn't post it here because it was far too high risk for a bet thread, and there was no options play to be made.

I posted it in the trading thread because I sometimes throw off spots I think are interesting/could have nice short term return.
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