Hi people, I would say I have learned a lot about crypto, stock investments (long term and short term).

I am very interested to start a telegram group that will discuss crypto (mostly) and other investments too in general. I know there are many of these groups on telegram. But I do not like any of them. I can not believe how many stupid things I read in those groups daily. If you have same opinion as I do I would like to talk to you.

With what type of people I would like to have discussion:

I want to talk to people that have aprox. same opinion as I do. I do not want to discuss crypto with people that are showing me some "stupid" graphs how crpyto will go up every day (for about half year showing this graphs daily).Also, some graphs are not stupid, but most are...

Where do I stand about cryptocurrencies: It can go to the moon or it can go to 0. This is my opinion, not because I do not understand crypto...

Where do I stand about blockhain: it is amazing inovation...

If blockchain is amazing inovation, that does not mean that all the cryptocurrencies are amazing also.... You have to understand why...

I want this telegram group to be created for one cause: profit. That can also mean margin trading(shorting) on crypto.... So margin discussions also... How can it be a profit group: a lot of really constructive opinions... I do not have problem with a bit different opinions of mine, but really need to be really constructive explained why...

I also want to talk to people that understand why I did this:

I sold all of my crypto in january... Plan was to go out for at least little time, depending how some things would evolve... Not saying that I am out now....

So, if you are 100 percent sure that bitcoin is 100 percent future, do not write u want to come to this group. As I mentioned before...

The constructive opinion is not about convincing other that some thing will go up(especially not with stupid arguments), but it is to find the truth what will happened and maybe make the most profit with the constructive opinions...If you know what I mean...

I did not write why I did some things in crypto (in this thread) on purpuse, because I want to discuss crypto with you only if you undertand this...and I am not explaining here why I selled my crypto in january...

If group will be made, I am planning to bann immediatly everybody that would say something stupid or he/she would not have very constructive arguments for what he/she said. Do not have time for not constructive opinions.

It would be really amazing for me to talk to people that are very constructive and think with their own head and got a lot knowladge.

If you would like to be part of this group just write in this post or mabye PM me. All the smart people are really really welcomed. Thanks.

If group like I described exists and you are part of it,i would be really happy if I can join. Thanks

Hope it is fine with moderators of 2p2 that I made this thread. If not, I understand and please just delete this thread.
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EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THIS POST IS ONLY MY OPINION. MY POST IS NOT TRADING ADVICE OF ANY KIND.

I am 100 percent sure that bitcoin is 100 percent future

Wanna add:

I want to discuss things because there is so many wrong informations in the crypto world in general(many people understand many things wrong)... Allways nice to talk with people that have constructive opinions...

I know I said I know a lot and I believe I do, but I really like to learn new things so would be amazing if we can share our thoughts and learn from each other( but this is only possible if only smart and constructive people are part of same telegram group). It is impossible to know too much (we can allways learn more; and I believe we allways should, this is the only way to improve)..


I wrote with what kind of people I would like to talk too in first post.. Basically it is also fine if you do not know a lot about crypto but you have good computer, bussiness,science,...(smart people from all over the field) knowledge, as for more smart people know more.

Even if the first goal of telegram group will be profit...The telegram group will not be made as a prediction group (not in the way that everybody should make a prediction or something like this)... But if everyone in their field is smart(business, computer, psychology,...) and make very good arguments about something... pretty sure that automatically means that we can make some good possible predictions of what it will happened in the future...or just share opinions which is also fine...

If you would like to be part of this group just write in this post or maybe PM me. All the smart people are really really welcomed. Thanks. And offcourse if you would not like how discussion will be going in telegram group you can just leave with no hard feelings.

English is not my first language, but I do not think that is a big deal.
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Can we order Siberian hookers w/ bitcoin?

Good luck with your group.

Will join if you let me place a Telegram Chat Bot in the group (not for spam...just to scrape data for a market sentiment / contrarian indicators I've been slowly building).

Hi, TY for your post.

Where do I stand about this now:
I want that everybody in the group(if it will be made) will decide about that(every person picks yes or no: majority wins). I want that everybody that will be part of group will be happy.

I do think your posts in crypto threads are constructive (u have some good arguments).

I think I will create a group when (if) around 10 people will want to join.

Also want to add:

Some of my thoughts (so some of you could see if you like my thinking):

I would much rather have a conversation with people that think that bitcoin´s price is going to drop to 0, than with people that think that bitcoin´s price is going to half mill. As I mentioned, I do not know and I do not care if bitcoin price will go to 0 or to half mill, but I do think I can beat in profit all the hodlers(as I did until now). That is my goal(make more profit than average hodler).

Why rather talk to "bitcoin´s price is going to drop to 0" people :lots of people that buy crypto are "bitcoin´s price is going to half mill" people, most believes in it, learns about it from others, some see only good things about it,... if you look at this from different perspective you can make predictions on possible things that most crypto buyers did not expect will happened, also there is psychology and so on... basically I am looking for a edge...Can discuss more about this in group
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If majority of people would rather have skype group and not telegram group... This is also fine.

How about sms group?

Aight, let me know when you open it....and Telegram for sure NOT Skype. There are great free tools built into Telegram and more secure.

TY for this.

Ok, Telegram group it will be.
Will let you know when I open it.

Also wanna add:

The reason why I wrote so many in this thread and I did not explained some things in details is not because I am cocky or something like this. This is the last thing I want everybody to think. If we are cocky we do not have room to grow and learn. But for example if somebody finds an edge(or something that others do not understand; not saying that I did) in cryptocurrencies trading, the last thing this person want is to let everybody know about it... and publish it online so everybody can see it. There is no edge(or at least a lot less), if everybody knows it.

For example: If somebody finds out how to play perfect poker(in every situation), pretty sure this person will not publish this on internet.. I mean there will not be any edge than, if everybody would understand how to play perfect poker...

I do not have problems to discuss anything in some group(that not whole world can see the conversation). For me it is amazing to exchange very constructive opinions. Pretty sure some things(if there is some kind of edge), will not leave the group, as for reasons mentioned above. I am also not saying that I found some extra edge or something (but would be amazing to discuss some things with very constructive people)...

Also, this is not going to be some kind of pump and dump group(no illegal stuff)...

EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THIS POST IS ONLY MY OPINION. MY POST IS NOT TRADING ADVICE OF ANY KIND.

Calm down.

So which IRC channel is this group in

Also wanna add:

I wrote that most charts are "stupid"...

This mainly goes for most charts that goes back and forth in most telegram groups...Why are they "stupid"...If they are not correct, they are wrong and "stupid".. I saw many graphs from january on explaining how crypto will go up next day every day for half year= they are wrong, as we know now...

We like to see what we want to see, not the truth... that is: if we own crypto...we would find many indicators and present tham as graph will show us to crypto to go up(maybe not on purpuse)..
I saw(in those half year) many graphs that basically have a lot of indicators that crypto will go up and down, but basically people present tham as prediction for going up.

Also, I do think that only looking to graph is sometimes not enough to predict what will happened. We should at least add some others parameters, indicators, that graphs do not show...

This is my view on this(not detailed explained)...Just want to share my view on things.

I said I also do margin trading(I prefer 10x or 20x)...Avg open position is about couple of days... Really depends..This worked pretty well for now...I am pretty sure I do not have the best tactics...But I see a lot of room for improvement at my margin trading...

But than again, group(I hope it wil be made) will be most about very constructive opinions about some cryptocurrencies, general crypto(for example: pow,pos,...), crypto-health,..(as for: from this pretty sure can we make some good predictions)...

Everything written in this post is only my opinion. My post is not trading advice of any kind.

Can I have your mailing address? My investments have gone poorly and my lawyer said he needs to send you a subpoena.

???
I do not even know this man. Never talked to him. Is this some kind of 2p2 joke?

I wrote many times this:
EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THIS POST IS ONLY MY OPINION. MY POST IS NOT TRADING ADVICE OF ANY KIND.

If this is reason why mentioned poster wrote what he wrote? I believe in civilised conversation. I actually want that everybody think with their own head when buying whatever "investment". And not just buy something just because somebody else bought it also (kind of a secret message why I wrote this so many times) or copying somebody elses strategy for no reason. And most certainly I did not open this thread to confuse anybody. Even If I would give some kind of buying advice in this thread, not my problem if somebody would listen to me. Anyway, I do think my thread has a lot of value. Even if somebody do not agree with me, allways nice to hear others opinions.

Just needed to wrote this.

Damnit, I lost a lot of money based on information in this thread! Would you share the information with me if you get it?

Is problem.

Also wanna add:
Can I also your mailing address? My investments have problem and my lawyer said he needs to send you a subpoena.