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hahaha. right my interpretation isnt wrong but youre going to do the 'im rubber, youre glue' response in which you also compare me to a 5 year old. niceeeee.

no, this was the "i'm sorry ******, you have no understanding of derivatives" response.

here's an analogy that even you might be able to understand:

would you bet that a stock is going to close above 100 at even money on the option's expiry date when the option with a strike of 90 is trading at $1?

not really even sure why i'm bothering to educate you when one of these days i'll just be able to arb your ******ed ass with the dumb bets youve been offering. perhaps its because i realize that you have no money to actually bet in the first place.

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08-30-2010 , 09:35 AM

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me = work at fund in which investors have made 5x their money over the last decade including 08. the job i got because b/w the ages of 18 and 22 i had an roic in my personal account that kills anything you could possibly imagine.

you = day trader in vegas who thinks hes hot stuff but is really a nobody.

anything else sir?

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08-30-2010 , 09:41 AM

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you = day trader in vegas who thinks hes hot stuff but is really a nobody.

hahahahahahahahahahahah. you got me on that one. 100% correct. you got me figured out. (aside from the fact that i've never daytraded in my life or even lived in nevada)

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08-30-2010 , 10:27 AM

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this needs it's own thread.

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08-30-2010 , 11:06 AM

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this needs it's own thread.

no it doesnt. i'm actually tired of the pissing matches.

my new resolution is no pissing matches for the rest of 2010.

thus i will prob only post here about 5 more times in 2010.

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08-30-2010 , 11:42 AM

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I would love to see the Phone Booth/stinkypete crowd actually try to trade something for a change. Hilarity would ensue.

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08-30-2010 , 11:56 AM

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no it doesnt. i'm actually tired of the pissing matches.

my new resolution is no pissing matches for the rest of 2010.

thus i will prob only post here about 5 more times in 2010.

doesnt seem like you're tired of pissing matches since you started it...

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you must have reading comprehension problems. no wonder why dcifr won't get you a job.

just ignore the person that's trying to rile you up. is it really that hard?

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08-30-2010 , 12:08 PM

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I would love to see the Phone Booth/stinkypete crowd actually try to trade something for a change. Hilarity would ensue.

i promise you my results since i opened my brokerage account in '08 crush yours. despite the fact that i don't even trade actively or put much time/effort into it.

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08-30-2010 , 12:14 PM

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i promise you my results since i opened my brokerage account in '08 crush yours. despite the fact that i don't even trade actively or put much time/effort into it.

Thats cos u run good at trading

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08-30-2010 , 12:15 PM

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Thats cos u run good at trading

yeah but traders are ******s and think that running good has nothing to do with it

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08-30-2010 , 12:31 PM

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no it doesnt. i'm actually tired of the pissing matches.

my new resolution is no pissing matches for the rest of 2010.

thus i will prob only post here about 5 more times in 2010.

Hope so.. You make pretty much every thread you get involved with unreadable.

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08-30-2010 , 12:41 PM

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Hope so.. You make pretty much every thread you get involved with unreadable.

I find most BFI threads to be unreadable though I think you meant that for different reasons.

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08-30-2010 , 01:11 PM

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This thread turned good ... 5 stars!

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08-30-2010 , 05:08 PM

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Somebody asking this question probably doesn't have the money or even a futures trading account to make that play.

ya youre probably right

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08-30-2010 , 06:24 PM

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Somebody asking this question probably doesn't have the money or even a futures trading account to make that play.

it's not that hard to open an account, and i believe all you need is $25k. correct me if i'm wrong.

(all i know is yowserrs doesnt qualify to trade futures so min $25k seems about right)

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08-30-2010 , 07:10 PM

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it's not that hard to open an account, and i believe all you need is $25k. correct me if i'm wrong.

(all i know is yowserrs doesnt qualify to trade futures so min $25k seems about right)

lol the guy who tried to call me out on futures just this am didnt even know equity index futures are naturally downward sloping because of dividends.

i don't even have to show you my brokerage accounts because my checking account has more than that in it. are we prop betting this one mr. mediocre math major who dcifr will never hire (at least if he has any sense)?

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08-30-2010 , 07:38 PM

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i promise you my results since i opened my brokerage account in '08 crush yours. despite the fact that i don't even trade actively or put much time/effort into it.

I promise you you're wrong, especially if latter is true.

Hint: Doubling an account in two years, while good, is not super-impressive with small amounts of money (<$100k). If you've done better than that (would have to be significantly better to top my results) my hat's off to you, but in that case I have no idea why you're keeping such good trade ideas to yourself, only to post such worthless drivel instead. Even when you're right, it's about some academic minutiae that has nothing to do with actual trading/investing.

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08-30-2010 , 07:58 PM

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i don't even have to show you my brokerage accounts because my checking account has more than that in it. are we prop betting this one mr. mediocre math major who dcifr will never hire (at least if he has any sense)?

didn't take math in school. you're now 0/3 on my location/job/education. well done. what else do you know about me?

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08-30-2010 , 08:05 PM

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didn't take math in school. you're now 0/3 on my location/job/education. well done. what else do you know about me?

That was my hit list for pseudo confident jerk who knows very little about trading / markets but who spends most time trying to challenge those who do.

I got another prop bet for you. I bet you can't find in my entire history of 4500 posts 3 factual mistakes (not trading calls even though I've posted 70%+ winners here) concerning trading / markets / economics.

I'd propose the same to you except I can't win since you never actually contribute anything factual.

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08-30-2010 , 08:33 PM

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That was my hit list for pseudo confident jerk who knows very little about trading / markets but who spends most time trying to challenge those who do.

You forgot finance

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08-30-2010 , 08:36 PM

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I promise you you're wrong, especially if latter is true.

prop bet

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08-30-2010 , 08:37 PM

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also, for the record, i never claimed to be good at or know much about trading. i am, however, very lucky.

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08-30-2010 , 08:44 PM

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prop bet

Do you have an account you've made few if any withdrawals/deposits to? Would be pretty complex otherwise. I would be submitting my IRA account, which would handicap me against an account with less restrictions but I think I'll be fine anyway.

% return is the criteria. What time frame do you want? Jan 08 - present? Jun 08 - present? Jan 08 - Jun 10? You name it.

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08-30-2010 , 08:58 PM

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while i normally wouldn't allow you to cherry pick your highest return account, this is clearly a home run for me so that's not a problem. the time frame would be from Oct 08 (date i opened my account) to present. we can start it in '09 if you'd prefer since i barely traded anything in '08.

this is a really awesome measure since it will prove beyond a doubt that i am way better than you at being lucky. how much are we betting?

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08-30-2010 , 09:01 PM

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btw bills217 was it you that tarded up that algorithmic hardware thread saying that "algorithmic hardware" just means the hardware is located on the exchange? just trying to remember which ****** i'm dealing with here, and that thread has unfortunately been deleted.

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