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08-05-2017 , 03:48 PM
Elon Musk is unstable by his own admission.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elo...lar-2017-07-31

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To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.
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08-06-2017 , 01:37 PM
Musk reminds me of poker pro "jungleman" (Daniel cates) by the way he talks.
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08-11-2017 , 04:35 AM
think creative destruction has always been a part of our economic system, its time to adapt and find new ways to be creative and create opportunities, isnt that the whole point of a capitalist economic system?
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08-12-2017 , 07:32 AM
Elons team at OpenAI beat the world champion in a game of DOTA2:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/896163163581825025

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08-12-2017 , 01:28 PM
I don't think that's as impressive as the Go win because computers have much much better reaction times than humans. They also will never make mistakes (other than lag induced) on range estimation misclicking with practically infinite APM and infinite refresh rate (they'll "see" things happening before humans see on screen)
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08-12-2017 , 08:25 PM
The problem of technology is that it creates so much free time and wealth that people have nothing to do but complain about their status in society.
I think you can make an argument that a homeless person has more "wealth" in 2017 than John D. Rockefeller in 1890. Of course that is not true of status.
AI will just make matters "worse", vastly more wealth, vastly less work and vastly more time to complain about an individuals lack of status in society.
I am pretty sure that was Schumpeter's prediction that capitalism would be so successful and create so much free time people would have nothing to do but think of ways to destroy capitalism.

To me Musk seems like the type that will start cooking the books when the economy takes a dive.
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08-13-2017 , 01:50 PM
Yup, any hiccup with TSLA, and automatically it's back to his heartfelt doomsday scenarios, and all of a sudden we're off topic about TSLA. It sounds like a decent premise for a company, as does xspace, but I don't trust the CEO to be honest.
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08-16-2017 , 07:36 AM
2 questions:

1) What are the top 5-10 stocks to invest in for AI outside of just googling it? Ones you guys like for your own reasons.

2) Are they going to be priced out of small business's ability to afford? Because if you give me a bot and it costs me say $500 a week and the work is good, I'm in. In 20 years when I'm 60, the equivalent worker working for my small business is gonna cost me $900-$1200 to do 1/4 of the hours and probably with substandard work. If i can lease a bot for $500 a week and heck its even versatile enough to do my snow/lawn/leaves/house cleaning sometimes? I could not sign that contract fast enough. You've solved my retirement problems.

And are the war threats that much scarier than today? Robo soldiers bla bla. if China sends 1M robo soldiers somewhere, nukes are still nukes, we still nuke their continent and they nuke ours. We already basically use robo soldiers, we call them drones. I'd think long before the rise of the machines, the scarier prospect is Islam/Radical Islam finally getting their hands on cost effective drones and piloting them all over the planet killing humans.
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08-16-2017 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
2 questions:

1) What are the top 5-10 stocks to invest in for AI outside of just googling it? Ones you guys like for your own reasons.

2) Are they going to be priced out of small business's ability to afford? Because if you give me a bot and it costs me say $500 a week and the work is good, I'm in. In 20 years when I'm 60, the equivalent worker working for my small business is gonna cost me $900-$1200 to do 1/4 of the hours and probably with substandard work. If i can lease a bot for $500 a week and heck its even versatile enough to do my snow/lawn/leaves/house cleaning sometimes? I could not sign that contract fast enough. You've solved my retirement problems.

And are the war threats that much scarier than today? Robo soldiers bla bla. if China sends 1M robo soldiers somewhere, nukes are still nukes, we still nuke their continent and they nuke ours. We already basically use robo soldiers, we call them drones. I'd think long before the rise of the machines, the scarier prospect is Islam/Radical Islam finally getting their hands on cost effective drones and piloting them all over the planet killing humans.

1.) Picking "which" robot/AI/whatever company will be the next Ford/GM/etc. in the AI world is pointless. Just look at the automobile revolution back in the day and good luck picking out the winners from thousands of losers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

2.) There already are robots that will mow your lawn and vacuum your house. As time goes on they'll get cheaper/better. Same goes with self checkout in retail stores and ordering kiosks at mcdonalds etc.

3.) Radical islam getting robots would be an issue, if we (rational people in the west) didn't have more/better robots. You really think some guy living in a hut without running water in Afghanistan is going to make a better robot then some 22 year old super genius working for Halliburton? The one problem would be someone in a "not so friendly to the west" country giving/losing/having a robot stolen by a radical, that could cause an issue. Not a "take over our nation" type issue, but a "kill a bunch of people in a major city" issue.
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08-19-2017 , 04:43 PM
Google is heavily invested in contemporary AI.
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08-20-2017 , 09:28 AM
The biggest threat is of course radical islam robots.
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