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Originally Posted by jefkve
Mindflayer: I would humbly disagree. IRR is a very easy number to use, but can be difficult to arrive at. Any template that is handed out probably has taken so liberties with simplifying the calcs. In a former life, I built these sheets, and I can tell you that the process of building them if often more informative than the number you arrive at. That being said, if you can get it down to cash flows on specific dates, then just use XIRR to calc. (Also, this is easier said than done, so good luck). MF also makes a good point without saying it explicitly: you need someone with expertise to review your numbers and question your assumptions. You should know not only all the numbers going in, but also why they are what they are (especially the plugs).
Not sure what you disagree with.
1) they are difficult to arrive at unless you can get it down to cash flows on specific dates.
IRR does not take into account principal paydown.
cash flows are only estimates so the IRR is also an estimate.
I am a person that people ask about assumptions in calculations. I have done many actual budgets ranging from 200k to +1m for 20-100 units for many years with many properties.
It is only after years of looking at them that I can see when a new investor is doing calculations for NOI that they have left off x item or y item or z item... and so have
under estimated their maintenance cost .. and have actual negative cash flow when they think it is positive.
This usually happens when a buyer takes the sellers Pro Forma sheet and uses them as is. They are rarely close to true. They are what the buyer wants you to think, so they can ask
for the maximum amount .
I was helping someone out that wanted to be a developer and sent him daily emails until we hit 101 questions that needed to be answered before he proceeded.
At the time he contacted me started he thought he was ready to move forward. He only knew the answer to maybe 5 of the questions I asked.
Did you know that an elevator operator in BC Canada charges $400/h and that they are required to be onsite for a required annual fire inspection?
Now look at the IRR spreadsheet that OP used. It shows a monthly maintenance cost of $1000 and annual maintenance cost of $12,000.
That is a red flag right there.
In my high level view of apartment buildings, I use 40-55% of rental income as the maintenance %, depending on the age of the building.
I have signed garbage-recycling contracts alone for properties with $40,000/month rental income that are more than $1000/m.