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Originally Posted by kjander
Thanks for the push for this thread. I am not smart enough to have an good opinion on $900 gold but I will use the thread to ask my questions.
I am interested in investing in precious metals. the concept of physical things is more my thing( I invest in real estate and have a business).
There is so much to take in with metals.
First where to get it. I have found some good sites but what am I looking for? How much juice can I expect to pay for the service?
How much can I expect for delivery?
Precious metals are a big hedge against hyperinflation so what happens when we are in that situation and now I need to cash in my metals to put food on the table? Am I always going to be able to find someone to give me the going rate in a reasonable time?
If I put it in my IRA how much can I expect to pay in a custodial/storage fee?
What is the best form to buy it in? Do coins vs bars have their own advantage and disdvantage?
What about SLV and GLD in paper? Are they legit? Do they have the actual metal somewhere that is verifiable? Do they have risks of going under and going bankrupt or is it really just an easy way to buy metals? Seems too good to be true.
Thanks to anyone that can help me with any of these questions.
I will try to answer more of your questions later. These are just my opinions, take with a grain of salt...
> My advice on what to buy :
50 x 10 oz silver bars
500 x 1 oz silver bars
5 x 100 oz silver bars
5 oz of small denomination platinum
500 oz more silver, maybe junk.
5 oz platinum ""
3 oz gold ""
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Buy whatever seems like a good value to you at the time. The more recognized the item, the more liquid, and the more expensive.
IE some random 1 oz silver coin might cost $14.50 but if you want an ASE it's probably $17... but ou will get most of it back when you sell. The longer you're planning to hold, the less I'd be worried about this. That said, I would try to make sure some of the bigger silver bars are comex deliverable ie JMatthley Engelhart etc. I'd also probably pay the premium for some ASE, Maple or Philharmonic silver coins, silver is silver though so don't worry about it too much any silver is really fairly liquid, some brands are just worth more than others, and more recognized.
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There's a list of a few dealers in one of the older gold threads I believe...
Fractional denominations of platinum and gold are going to cost significantly more than full ounce coins. I think it's worth having at least a few oz worth of smaller denominations but can't fault you for wanting to save money and buy 1 ozers...
FOR EXAMPLE**
1 oz gold ASE might be 960
1/2 oz is 500
1/4 oz is $260
1/10 oz is 110
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SLV is AUDITED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO AUDITED ENRON. THERE IS NOTHING THERE, IT IS A HUGE HUGE PONZI SCHEME. AVOID PAPER ASSETS LIKE THE PLAGUE. Also SLV is owned by Barclays so you will lose all of your imaginary money that isn't even there to begin with if / when Barclays goes bankrupt. Have you ever heard the saying "
If you don't hold it, you don't own it." ??
I'm not sure about the IRA question but I would seriously consider cashing out your IRA, it's worth a huge penalty if it allows you to get your hands on more physical assets. I would highly recommend you seek more advice before making any decisions wrt your IRA, or any other investment for that matter. Think about what makes sense. There's a lot to consider with the metals, but in another sense this investment is elegant in its simplicity. People aren't used to having to actually physically take responsibility for their own property because they're used to owning digits on a screen.