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01-30-2012 , 02:24 PM
I've built a simple iframe from my site and I'm encouraging bloggers to embed it in their sites. Will this count as getting a link from the blog in SEO terms?
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02-01-2012 , 05:36 PM
So I have pretty good idea what CPM value our ad spaces have and I compiled a list of potential advertising partners that I will try to contact. Now I'm wondering: what are common/good ways to track impressions for a CPM deal?
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02-01-2012 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sharpie337
I've built a simple iframe from my site and I'm encouraging bloggers to embed it in their sites. Will this count as getting a link from the blog in SEO terms?
Found this literally today, this is the conclusion:
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Conclusions: For Google, it does indeed appear that it is following the source calls in iframes. Because of the links in the second test we can draw the conclusion that it crawls the source, follows links and passes link equity to the final destination page. However, we are not able to draw conclusions as to how much equity is passed in relation to the portion similar to a 301.
Source: http://www.rimmkaufman.com/blog/do-s...ames/31012012/
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02-01-2012 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
No it doesn't hurt. Think about an AP newspaper article - the same article is shown on thousands of websites. Think if you put an article on just 1 blog and then 5 other blogs copied that one blog - would it make sense at all for Google to punish your site because of that?
Panda saw a lot of collateral damage from scenarios like this. Some of it is fixed, and the algo likely tweaked, but G is certianly capable of "throwing the baby out with the bath water" and harming innocent sites in the process and unless Cutts takes a liking to you such as on YC news it's incredibly hard to get rectified.
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02-01-2012 , 09:42 PM
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Panda saw a lot of collateral damage from scenarios like this. Some of it is fixed, and the algo likely tweaked, but G is certianly capable of "throwing the baby out with the bath water" and harming innocent sites in the process and unless Cutts takes a liking to you such as on YC news it's incredibly hard to get rectified.
I don't know about collateral damage in this case, this is exactly what Google wants to penalize. Spinning the content is unlikely to yield good results either IMO just post unique high quality content for each domain. Consider consolidating domains if this is not practical.
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02-02-2012 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
No it doesn't hurt. Think about an AP newspaper article - the same article is shown on thousands of websites. Think if you put an article on just 1 blog and then 5 other blogs copied that one blog - would it make sense at all for Google to punish your site because of that?

For best results each article would have unique content and for better results than what you're planning to do you would at least spin the content before publishing it to each blog.
I just want to add on to what others are saying: this is simply not true any more. Duplicate content has been bad for the last 9 months now.
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02-02-2012 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cwar
Found this literally today, this is the conclusion:

Source: http://www.rimmkaufman.com/blog/do-s...ames/31012012/
Thank you! This is awesome

I've got bloggers using my new "realtime prices of cards" widget on their page (basically just an iframe tag) so it's good to know this helps with link juice.
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02-02-2012 , 05:24 PM
God. 5 reposts isn't going to do ****. Scraper sites repost articles all the time for tons of articles everywhere. You guys need to separate "diminishing returns" with "penalties" and negative consequences. Of course posting all of your content all over the place is bad, especially when it's your site content, but posting a press release to 5 sites isn't the end of the world.
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02-02-2012 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Phresh
God. 5 reposts isn't going to do ****. Scraper sites repost articles all the time for tons of articles everywhere. You guys need to separate "diminishing returns" with "penalties" and negative consequences. Of course posting all of your content all over the place is bad, especially when it's your site content, but posting a press release to 5 sites isn't the end of the world.
You're right I misread the post I was assuming we owned all the sites.
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02-02-2012 , 05:49 PM
Man, seoMOZ is such an awesome site for articles. It's so difficult not to spend hours on there. How great is the PRO account? I'd like to check one out in the future.
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02-02-2012 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
When you say $25, do you mean if the ad is clicked 1000 times you expect them to make $25,000 in revenue from those clicks? That seems highly optimistic, but I don't know anything about trading cards and the site is very highly relevant.

If one click really does = $25 why not charge $5 per click?

If one click brings repeat business worth $100 on average why not charge $20 a click?
Mostly because, while $25 revenue is fine, it's less great if COGS is $20 and you add in labor, interest etc. Still, I think that adwords is charging people roughly $1.50/click so I think I'll propose that (i.e. cut out the middleman).
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02-02-2012 , 05:58 PM
any articles in particular you like? i had the PRO account and never really used the extra features.
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02-02-2012 , 06:05 PM
Dangit. I typed out a response and 2+2 went ****** on me. Basically I like how they update with new information all the time, conduct neat experiments, and if you do a search for anything, you can likely find an article on it. And their Q+A section is available to non-members too.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-10-go...uthority-links

That's a neat article. Not everything there is new to me, but some stuff is cool to try.
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02-02-2012 , 06:11 PM
i totally agree that their content and articles are great, i really love their blog and whiteboard fridays. i was just saying i didn't really use much of the PRO stuff (and most of the content i'm talking about is free i believe). was just interested in specific articles you liked -- i've learned a ton there and it's probably my favorite IM/SEO resource.
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02-02-2012 , 06:16 PM
Oh yeah, for sure. I haven't bookmarked any, but basically anything I open I like.
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02-02-2012 , 07:20 PM
Agree about liking Seomoz. I just setup a pro acct for a month to try. I like it so far. I'm not sure if it's worth a monthly subscription yet, unless you were bringing at least 1 or 2 new sites online every month in which case I'd definitely say it's worth it. I'll decide how good it is in a couple of weeks. They run reports for each of your sites once per week so it's going to take a couple weeks to track improvements and changes. I've just started trying out some of the tools so far they seem pretty good. It's definitely a better overall package but I'm not sure if it's $99 good.

I've found the seomoz guys on twitter are really good to follow for news and articles. Signed up for the ones Cwar recommended earlier in this thread. It's well worth following that twitter list he posted.
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02-02-2012 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cwar
You're right I misread the post I was assuming we owned all the sites.
Right, I was wondering why everyone was saying crap about what I said.

Article has link to his money site. Article is posted on a parasite host. Same article gets posted on 5 parasite hosts. LOL at Google penalizing the site LINKED TO in the articles.
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02-02-2012 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Phresh
Man, seoMOZ is such an awesome site for articles. It's so difficult not to spend hours on there. How great is the PRO account? I'd like to check one out in the future.
It's pointless give up and read it all . Rand is actually building a Hacker News style site for SEO (I'm in the beta) and it has already changed the way I look for marketing posts, that's where I found that iframe article sharpie needed.
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02-03-2012 , 03:36 PM
I'm thinking of buying or starting a GPT site. However the information I can find on starting one is pretty horrible. So I was wondering if there's anyone here that has experience with starting/running this type of site. Who can maybe give some pointers on how to avoid common mistakes, or who can tell me it's a horrible idea that can only end badly.

I realize there's a ton of gpt sites out there and competition is harsh, but it seems like a fun (side)project.
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02-03-2012 , 03:41 PM
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i had the PRO account and never really used the extra features.
This. And I do this stuff everyday.

Though I'm going to re-sign up to check out their automated reporting. Cuz MAN I hate creating client specific reports and updating them.
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02-03-2012 , 04:28 PM
I had an account with Gullanian. I thought it was not worth it.
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02-03-2012 , 05:06 PM
Just soft-launched a site I've been working on for a while, kinda tired/lazy right now, does anyone have the link handy for that big infographic on publicizing a site or something? Thought I bookmarked it. Very big infographic, dominated by a circle, possibly posted by Cwar originally? ty
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02-03-2012 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
Just soft-launched a site I've been working on for a while, kinda tired/lazy right now, does anyone have the link handy for that big infographic on publicizing a site or something? Thought I bookmarked it. Very big infographic, dominated by a circle, possibly posted by Cwar originally? ty
http://assets.unbounce.com/s/images/...aphic-1800.png
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02-03-2012 , 05:18 PM
That's the one, thanks!
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02-03-2012 , 05:19 PM
I got a lot of use out of SEOmoz Pro it while I was taking clients as it would be a huge pain to setup a crawler, custom Analytics reports, social analytics, rank tracker, branded keyword rules, extremely in-depth keyword competition reports etc. for each website. The big unique features are the crawl and the link data available through Open Site Explorer IMO. Their API and webinars are also fantastic. Basically I feel the people who would get the most use out of it are interested in uber search nerdery, people who take clients or work on several sites. A lot of sites don't need hardcore analytics though.

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