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11-10-2017 , 03:49 AM
I know I'll probably get slammed for this, but if you have spare money that you aren't afraid to lose, buy some bitcoin and hold.
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11-10-2017 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by abysmal01
I'm currently using a wealth management firm that seem to just have me in a few random actively managed funds and bonds which I'm sure is me just spewing money but a) I have no idea about finances beyond what I've read on here and in a few articles and b) I have a natural tendency to always believe that the authority figures know more than me and just go along with whatever they say. So I'm trying to learn as much as I reasonably can about basic investment fund types to work up the courage to make a break from the wealth management people.

Would you advise just plonking it all in a vanguard product such as this (after maxing out an isa) and forgetting about it for a while? Is it really that simple? Talking high 5 figures that I don't predict needing to touch for a few years and I'm in the UK if that makes any difference. Also any advice on which vanguard fund to go with would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by BoredSocial
In your case yes. Just go to Vanguard and buy some low cost target retirement date fund. It will auto balance from stocks towards bonds as you get closer to the date. It's a sound choice that requires nothing of you, but effectively cuts your wealth people out completely.

Every smart authority figure is telling you to do this btw. Warren Buffett thinks you should do this. (Just buying a ton of Berkshire Hathaway stock is also a valid choice as the company is absurdly diversified internally across the whole economy and holds a ton of bonds/cash equivalents as well and is being constantly allocated by the legitimate GOAT investor)

This is a no brainer dude. Give vanguard your money and stop feeling anxious about getting robbed. The reason you feel bad about money right now is that you ARE getting robbed. The way to make that feeling go away is to make the obviously better decision today and worry about something new tomorrow
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he can't open a Vanguard brokerage account in the UK with the fund selection of a USA brokerage account. I think they only get some ISAs and weird global balanced funds/UK-specific index funds, not target-date retirement funds.

abysmal01, you can always look up the funds you're invested in on Morningstar (or the UK equivalent) to see the loads and expense ratios, if they're publicly traded.

And you can end-around giving your money to Vanguard by opening a UK brokerage account, which (might) have access to US mutual funds. Commissions will be a factor. I don't think Vanguard target date retirement funds have ETF versions traded on US exchanges, which would make things much easier.
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11-10-2017 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by donfairplay
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he can't open a Vanguard brokerage account in the UK with the fund selection of a USA brokerage account. I think they only get some ISAs and weird global balanced funds/UK-specific index funds, not target-date retirement funds.

abysmal01, you can always look up the funds you're invested in on Morningstar (or the UK equivalent) to see the loads and expense ratios, if they're publicly traded.

And you can end-around giving your money to Vanguard by opening a UK brokerage account, which (might) have access to US mutual funds. Commissions will be a factor. I don't think Vanguard target date retirement funds have ETF versions traded on US exchanges, which would make things much easier.
I have no idea about investing from anywhere but the US. OP should pick the lowest fee fund he can find. That usually means vanguard.
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11-15-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
This is awesome. Thanks.
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11-17-2017 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGodson
I know I'll probably get slammed for this, but if you have spare money that you aren't afraid to lose, buy some bitcoin and hold.
I'm going to do this as part investment, part hedge against dollar collapse etc. Not a lot, a few grand. I really need the "How to Buy and Hold Bitcoin Safely for Dummies" link...
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11-17-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
I'm going to do this as part investment, part hedge against dollar collapse etc. Not a lot, a few grand. I really need the "How to Buy and Hold Bitcoin Safely for Dummies" link...
This is a pretty sane way to be in bitcoin. If you buy the thesis has merit putting as much as 5% of your net worth in isn't indefensible.... And letting it run after that isn't indefensible either... Until it's more than 50% of your net worth, then you should start taking money off the table pretty aggressively.
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11-18-2017 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
I'm going to do this as part investment, part hedge against dollar collapse etc. Not a lot, a few grand. I really need the "How to Buy and Hold Bitcoin Safely for Dummies" link...
Coinbase is the simplest place to get Bitcoin. If you aren't a techy person I'd consider moving your coins into a paper wallet. You can generate a wallet on bitaddress.org. Print out the address. Move the coins. Store it in a safe place. Other people will recommend techy stuff, but I feel paper wallet is the most secure.

Beware of the Bitcoin cult lol. Some people can get a little weird about it all. Some pretend that it isn't possible for it to collapse. On the other hand don't panic sell from hearing scary media. It isn't uncommon to see Bitcoin drop over 40% in short time.
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12-03-2017 , 01:30 AM
From what I read nosy younger people are putting their savings into cryptocurrency rather than the stock markets. I’ve done precious metals (lost 10%)stocks (doubled investment)and cryptocurrency(10x investment)
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12-07-2017 , 03:53 AM
Anyone know where I can find a free stock scanner that will show the top stocks in the S&P 500 of the past 10 years? I've been on finviz.com but as far I can tell the largest timeline for performance it shows is YTD.
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