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02-19-2021 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Cuepee,
blah...blah... blah...
None of what you say is relevant to our topic.

The question we are debating is clear.

This is your position...


Tooth : With settled science, there is zero percent chance of error risk in implementation.

QP : No there is always implementation risk


IF we were to argue our cases to the world leaders in risk analysis you would say "chance of implementation error in geoengineering the atmosphere to an intended goal is absolute zero'.


If people cannot see how incredibly stupid you are to believe that humans are infallible that is on them.

You can run around and around trying to justify whey you think it is 0% but you will never win.
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02-19-2021 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve350
If Tooth could monetize living in multiple peoples heads, he would be infinitely wealthy.
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I originally honed these talents at the card table, sending people on tilt with well chosen words, so I have in fact monetized this skill

I laughed.
Protip.

It always the Fish crying for protection and not the guy abusing the Fish at the table.

The idea that Tooth is applying his honed skill while simultaneously crying for the mods to save him constantly is just another layer of laughable in the sycophantry here.
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02-19-2021 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
I like how you ignore how destructive SO2 is to the ozone layer. It lets you lie a lot easier.
You and Cuepee both grip tighter when you should be letting go

Honestly I don't think anybody even knows what you two are trying to accomplish anymore



Posters are trying to put you on tilt and you let them.
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02-19-2021 , 10:56 AM
Not trying to accomplish anything, just curious to hear how Tooth reconciles his views on SO2 dispersal with the actual science (which he continues to ignore).

Personally, I'm slightly amused by all of it. Gives me something to do while I watch my BTC go up. If you're tilted though you should definitely take a break from the forum.
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02-19-2021 , 11:05 AM
I actually think it is hilarious you see it that way.

I am fine exposing Tooth's idiocy. It is easy and fun for me.

The people on tilt are all the ones, and there are numerous in this thread alone who acknowledge that what Tooth says is stupid but just want him not to be picked on or exposed.

You can almost see their tears as they beg saying

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02-19-2021 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
anyway on the climate front this is the problem when you have allow libertarian leanings to leak into policy.

You end up with disasters like this that you then try to blame on others.



The Wall Street Journal nails your post/quote for the pure lie it is, with irrefutable data:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-s...nd-11613605698



Compare the hard data - reality - with the lies you've been fed by the mainstream left wing media and actually believe in your post above. The fact is that wind dropped off a cliff while the fossil fuels - a substantial number of reliable plants of which had been shut down in favor "green" energy and its gas complement - actually helped fill part of the gap and make it less of a disaster by ramping up far above normal while wind power died.

And it's not like this is the first place where renewables have destabilized the grid and made it less stress tolerant. Is there anything left wingers won't shamelessly lie about? Amazing.

Shame, Cuepee.
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02-19-2021 , 03:44 PM
I don't have time right now to go through this propaganda piece line by line as it is obviously full of lies. I will return to it in a few hours.

Just to show how problematic this article is the opening line "...While millions of Texans remain without power for a third day, the wind industry and its advocates are spinning a fable that gas, coal and nuclear plants—not their frozen turbines—are to blame...." ...is a lie.

You cannot find any movement at the start of this Texas crisis to 'blame gas and coal'. The entire blame game was commentary to instantly tar and feather this major Texas collapse as if caused by the GND and AOC.

Any commentary about Gas and Coal failures was in REBUTTAL to that false narrative instantly pushed out and headlining Fox news and other right media.

What ultimately matters here is a question of 'if not one cent was ever put into Wind or Solar and instead there was more Gas and Coal in the State, would this problem still have happened?

I will review your articles later to see if they address that and conclude 'Yes those Coal and Gas extra capacity would not have frozen up just the same as the current Coal and Gas assets ...and instead would have worked' and why they would say that because if that is not what they address then the article is BS as that is THE ONLY THING that matters here.

This issue is not a question of which energy asset base provides the most energy in good times but rather would any of them deployed in any skew capacity, deployed as they are without winterization have actually worked.


Tooth, when a pieces opening line is a garbage lie like this one you quote is, oh boy.
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02-19-2021 , 06:05 PM
Sorry Tooth the usual tricks are not getting past the WSJ paywall beyond the first 4 paragraph teaser, so if you want to copy, paste the article I will review.

You can save me time by also highlighting the part that shows how any skew of the grid away from GE and towards more Coal/Gas in Texas would have seen this problem averted. How and why MORE coal and gas would not have frozen up just as the current assets did. Because that is the issue at question here. The idea being spun by the right that 'if not for GE in the State this would not have happened'.


BTW I would also like to know what you think I lied about in my post.

I see nothing that is a lie in what I wrote.
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02-19-2021 , 08:23 PM
And the Economic impact is....

RECORD PROFITS!!


Jerry Jones' Company Hits 'Jackpot' As Harsh Storms Send Natural Gas Prices Surging

...Jerry Jones, the billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, appears to be one of the beneficiaries.

... the surge in natural gas prices was providing it with a major — albeit almost certainly temporary — financial boost. ...

"Obviously, this week is like hitting the jackpot," President and Chief Financial Officer Roland Burns said Wednesday...





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Classic when you couple that with this.

Abbott asks for federal aid with statewide disaster declaration, warns drivers to stay home



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Maximize profits by allowing them to not protect the grid... Privatize profits ....socialize losses.

Winning!

Last edited by Cuepee; 02-19-2021 at 08:42 PM.
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02-21-2021 , 12:53 PM
What is the economic impact on society when these concepts of libertarianism and free markets blend to make these type of distortions where the below can happen coupled with my post above where safety is foregone because ...'costs' and profits are 'privatized' because 'investors deserve all the gains', while losses are 'socialized' via tax payer bailout?

Does anyone want to bet that Texas gets Fed money to rebuild this infrastructure with some levels of Fed money (tax payer money) to socialize the cost of upgrades?




But the generosity in the market has, at least revealed itself!


Last edited by Cuepee; 02-21-2021 at 01:14 PM.
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12-13-2021 , 03:19 PM
Kentucky is a friggin mess.



I am sure some good news, ala the Texas disaster and certain corporations claiming record profits as a result will come down the pipe soon to soothe the deniers.

Meanwhile the real cost of it will again be put on the average tax payers to clean up.


And is there anyone more gross and hypocritical than Rand Paul. What a disgusting human being. Here he is railing against the socialism of providing aide to other States dealing with natural disasters and then as soon as his State his hit...

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