This is fantastic

It's not bad at all, but it's sub optimal, depending on what happened while transitioning to becoming a programmer and what your income is now.

If you'd have never played poker and just been a programmer from 22 and projected out a progressive career path, what would have been better?

If your goal was to travel and live freely, then I guess that's worthwhile, but if you were smart enough to be successful from day 1, I'm unsure why you couldn't have still accomplished all those things (travel, savings) while currently being in a better spot both financially and professionally. And with less liver damage.

this thread is gonna be a great case study for what makes the politics forum and politics posters so inherently mediocre.

all in all good productive discussion for the first few hundred replies and then it just completely goes to ****.

More on topic, I've been thinking lately of the future of politics and the European Union and what's causing all this strife in the western world. My initial thoughts are the Europeans don't want to be left out in the cold in terms of the big 3, the United States, Russia, China. Without a European Union they would be small individual states being pushed around. The influx of immigration is due to the idea that it will boost their output, which in turn is causing all these problems until they can see if it actually worked or not.

With multiple countries moving towards rejecting mass immigration (for now anyway) I wonder how that will affect automation. The Japanese reject mass immigration and embrace automation...how would that play out in the United States?

I'm a bit late for the party, can we have another serious round?

this is what happens when you create a politics forum moderated by radical left people who silence/ban opposing views. you get a mob of loons that share your ideology. the funny thing is, its been explained to these posters over and over again that their ideology is possessed with bitterness and resentment. divisive identity politics. nothing seems to sink in and they keep acting it out. they believe they are here to discuss a topic but theyre really just finding any excuse to fling mud and hurl labels at people. thats what bitter and resentful people do

these are the same people that can't frame an argument about who is right and wrong. if you disagree with them you're not wrong, you're a bigot, phobe, ist, etc. and they are morally superior. while theyre frothing at the mouth hurling labels and claiming moral superiority they are trying angle shoot people out of their in-group in prop bets. this was somehow a bonding experience for the group claiming moral superiority. one of the weirdos had an asian genocidal fantasy starring wil and his family. he described himself laughing and wil begging for his family not to be executed. nowhere in the world did this story exist other than his imagination. it was his genocidal baby. instead of aborting it and asking himself what his malfunction was, he decided to type it out to try and hurt wils feelings. victor has clearly demonstrated his bitterness towards those damned privileged beautiful women. another bitter loser with an astonishing post count saw a picture of wils kid and decided it would be appropriated to call her ugly. another poster called wils wife is a dumbass. this is the voice of the morally superior and compassionate. thats their cause and movement. its bizarre to say the least

the story people are talking about Zimbabwe is a story we saw play out in russia where the productive farmers were rounded up by the idealogues and the poor losers (they had conned) and shipped off to siberia. the crops obviously sucked without the most productive farmers and millions starved to death next season. same story over and over. it turns out we have hierarchies of competence and we should respect that. its not just some oppressive patriarchy lol

interesting conversation yesterday. covers pretty much everything thats being discussed on the last dozen pages. everything from ubi, hitler, flaws in capitalism, genocidal ideologies, competence hierarchies. the pareto distribution is really interesting

Politics posters didn't create this. Some idiot troll decided to get personal and I reacted. I'm not even a politics poster.

No. This is what happens when biased clowns like yourself and Juan blame others while refusing to notice that your comma boy created the downfall. You won't blame him bc it doesn't fit with the view you are trying to push.

What would you say if I went and gravedug your posting history and then tried to refute your statement with a blatant lie about your past?

Would that be considered "mediocre posting"?

Prolly you would say so if it came from a so called politics poster.

But, as this exercise has proven, you would have no problem if it was directed at someone you consider a politics poster.

Wonder why that is.

pretty much solved on page 4. here's the full report http://rooseveltinstitute.org/wp-con...sic-Income.pdf

If by "solved" you mean modeled by a drunk clown, sure. Come on man. Surely you realize this is completely comical?

The model works like this:

- Notice how much each quartile spends vs the lowest quartile
- Take money off the richest quartile (mostly) by raising their tax level 35%, and assume you'll capture of all of this and not have the French experience.
- Assume all of this money difference (fractional lowest-vs highest quartile spend) represents extra demand that directly grows the economy permanently
- Plug that into GDP, compound it, ignore all other effects

This is comedy. Other academics at least try to obfuscate away the giant flaws and unfounded assumptions in their models. This just has them on display, like a bonobo.

Their expansionary assertions are mostly accurate though (obvious anyway). Poor people need the money to spend, so of course they will spend their ubi.

To the microeconomics, the same organization published a report about what people do when they receive ubi. People don't stop working; they just work less, earn less, eat better, and educate themselves better - https://www.scribd.com/document/3474...nsfer-Programs

So what do people who don't need UBI do with their money? 17 on the roulette wheel or just stick the 15k in a mutual fund?

It sure would make that college tuition a lot easier for me.

To be fair, most of these guys were exiled from the politics forums for being full of AIDS.

Ok, you've given this a big build up, I'm all ready now for an Einsteinesque train thought experiment to demonstrate relativity...lets see what this thought exercise involves.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is too good.


Mind you, this bit isn't half bad either...

How does a shroud get beaten into someone's head?
And how does he take it off himself if it's inside his head?


Oh god.

Who are you to judge how others run their lives, when you're in your 40s and work 80 hour weeks and night shifts that you hate? If anyone here sounds like they've ****ed up and is a failure, that would be you.

lolwil, the lol that keeps giving.

And you run to the politics forum after reading this thread to bring your AIDS infested buddies here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=785

Gee, I wonder why you would do such a thing? Hmm, let me think..

I could have said that better.

I don't. He's the one who worded it the way he did, specifically using the word "million" to imply he made an enormous amount of money playing poker. He didn't. Personally, I think he did fine if he averaged 100k a year, but the age matters, which is why I specifically asked how old he was when he did it. I think every person here would be impressed if a 15 year old kid was making 100k a year playing poker. Not so much if a 40 year old was. And even less so if that 40 year old was intelligent and capable of making 150k being an accountant.

He can do whatever he wants to do with his life, I don't care if he becomes president of the United States or starts shooting heroin tomorrow. I'm simply analyzing what he said. If I sat here and bragged about how my investments/trades made 75k last year to try to impress you about my returns without mentioning the amount of capital I started with and strategy, would you be impressed? You couldn't judge because you don't have the numbers to analyze if my returns were impressive. If I had 1 million dollars in capital and made 75k last year my returns are paltry. If I had 10k in capital and made 75k last year my returns would be astronomical. That's what he did when he threw out the word million. It needed to be put in context. If he played poker for 2 years and made a million dollars I'd be the first to say he did a great job.

It seems I do nothing but strike a nerve with you, because you take personal insult from the things I say. That's why you attack me and lie about what I do for a living.

I thought you were travelling to Italy and enjoying your jet-set lifestyle? Say hello to Elon Musk and George Clooney for me, OK big shot? And tell George to call me back when he gets a second.

****ing clown.

The Pareto distribution stuff was very interesting.

I'm relaxing in our hotel room while the wife's in the bathroom, before hitting the sack, and needed some light entertainment better than Euro TV which I knew I could relying on you to provide.

Everything I said about your work is taken from what you've said yourself and as you know have been discussed before many times without dissent for you. Which part are you saying I got wrong?

You sound like you have a fairly miserable work life, and I can see how the relentless and soul-destroying grind might frequently make you feel the need to go online and blast away, apparently harmlessly, at a few sacred cows and at a few people who might in your eyes represent examples of what you perceive to be the cause of what you believe are problems in the US.

But seriously, get a grip.

no dude. I specifically used that term bc it is an actual amount. I used it to be accurate. like, there is no other term that would have been accurate there.

everything you say about me is comically wrong. were you following the conversation at all? my post was a direct refutation that I was somehow a failure at poker. it was not mean to be a brag. that should have been easy to figure out.

Victor,
Congrats on your poker success. And on transitioning to being productive after having fun in your 20s. Though sometimes it would be nice to have Party Poker, 2005 back. A license to sit down and print money at any time. I didn't play a lot, but a friend make $500K playing part time for a few years.Good times.

Was there a reason why you used the word million instead of your average? Yes, because the word "million" means something. And if you were truly being accurate, you'd give given an exact number, instead of saying "over a million". What does over a million mean? 1.2 million? 1.7? It doesn't matter because the only message you wanted to get across was it was over 1 million dollars. Accuracy had nothing to do with it, which is why you're here justifying yourself.

Sure it was, which is why you mentioned travelling the world and having freedom and "stacking up your retirement", on top of investing into your new life and career which you've admitted you make less at. That's why I asked about you to compare it to a progressive career from day 1. If you'd have compared the two, you might find that you'd have been better off NOT playing poker.

Hey man, whatever floats your boat. It's your life, cheers. As long as your happy, right?

It's possible to support something similar to ubi and believe in capitalism at the same time. Also lol at william for trying to dump on my city, where home values are increasing dramatically and we have thousands moving here every month. lol william.

I don't need to dump on Nashville, if you like it there, that's great. But you should put things in perspective. I live in the Northeast Corridor, the "Megalopolis", the most prosperous and important part of the United States, with 50 million people and 20% of GDP on 2% of the land.



You live in...well, Nashville.

I can be in New York City in an hour, in DC in about 2 by hopping on the Acella. You can jump in your car and drive 2 hours and be in...Chattanooga.

Philly is ranked 8th in the country in GDP as far as metro area. Nashville is a whopping 34th. I know you mentioned tourism (lol), Philadelphia is ranked top 5 consistently and was ranked #1 place to visit in 2017 by US news and World report. It's also ranked as a tier 2 city, while Nashville doesn't even register.

I'm sure Nashville is a nice place, I'm glad you're happy there, but you making fun of where I live and bragging about living in lolNashville is just weird. You live in a flyover city in a flyover state in a flyover region of the country which also has the highest concentration of poverty.



Even the Honky Tonk Man left. He rolled out to Arizona! But hey man, rock on to that Randy Travis and have your fun. You do you, buddy.

Have you run mad?