Yeah, sure.

Here was his first and second post:

Compare and contrast.

The distilled essence of the whole business is saying leftists/liberals/whatevers want so-called safe spaces and in the same thread expressing desire and asking for precisely a space that is safe.

There are way too many instances to quote but our hero Boobies4Me manages to do it in the same sentence:

The only thing that makes it less breathtaking is that there's a real chance he doesn't know what any of those words mean and is just inserting them into blanks, MadLibs style.

Williams post is hilarious. Think about the time he put ino it. lol good luck William

Not only has at least 100 million dollars been spent on my books, but I would estimate that if you threaten all my readers with a pill that somehow forced them to have total amnesia about what was in them, and an inability to read them again, they would pay at least a billion in total to prevent that. (And in many cases because they helped them to think rather than just win ,money.) Put another way, if you traveled into a time machine and threatened that I wouldn't be born. people, (including those yet to be born) would pay billions to prevent that. I am not in the top 10,000 using that rating system but I bet it beats any two plus twoer.

Meanwhile the stuff I espouse is correct, And the ideas were formed 40 years ago without input from anyone else. I will say though that your rebuttals usually are not related to the specific points I was trying to make. So maybe you don't get them. Then again maybe you do given your stance on 1000 bill cigar lighters.

Again, it is not immoral to steal from the super rich, super lucky if they are squandering their money. But that stolen money should be given to the deserving. Unless in the act of trying to separate the deserving from the undeserving lots of deserving don't get it. I also don't claim to know enough about economics to disprove the contention that such a plan would do more harm than good. Capitalism is like granting immunity to guilty parties to get someone else. Its immoral but may extend the greatest benefits overall. (It would be moral if all people's incomes were more closely correlated to their effort and their risk taking.) But I do know that an options trader or soccer player who claims that his income is less than the total benefit he is providing should be asked to shut up because that is not the reason he is doing what he is doing.

ToothSayer was being complimentary and is simply wondering how you could have 'fallen' for w/e it is he's talking about in this specific case and he didn't question your integrity or w/e character of yours you think might have been insulted.

Aside from not understanding why you said what you did about capitalism the problem that I see w/ arguments like yours is that

1. You will have difficulty defining 'super rich', 'super lucky', and 'deserving.' You'd be reduced to Justice Potter Stewart's 'I know it when I see it' and all that is is opinion. Ofc, we could pass laws defining the terms but all that would do is create wild contortions bec ppl will try to shoe-horn themselves into a desired position and engage in endless litigation as to constitutional legality.

2. You can not know why someone does something, it's presumptuous. You could ask but I'm fairly certain that none of them would claim that their income is less than the benefit provided.

Except for persons like Jennifer Lawrence who claims she's under-paid. But at least she can point to what the male A-listers make as the basis for her opinion, not a self-considered estimate of her worth in a vacuum.

So, if you won a 50 million dollar poker tournament (humor me, I know the prizes aren't that big), would it be moral/perfectly acceptable to steal it from you? Or only if you started popping champagne in da club?

The only fascination is that you're the exact case study example he's referring to, but too oblivious to realize it. You've posted 99% drivel and personal attacks, while somehow maintaining your delusional bubble of moral superiority, all while simultaneously lacking the self-awareness to see you're basically the STEEEELHOUUUSE of BFI at this point.


None of what I've posted has suggested a desire for a safe space -- it's merely been me remarking that I'm surprised to see BFI isn't the troll infested, liberal circle jerk of the Politics forum. Your reading comprehension is about is spectacularly lol as your other posts in this thread. You seem to be a whole different breed of crazy but keep up the good fight.

Yeah like this

Clearly a post advocating UBI. But as always policy requires details which I responded to with this:

Quote:

Could you elaborate on a few things for us:

1- what did you have in mind that is similar to UBI?

2- if ubi were implemented today how much should it be?

3- if ubi was implemented today what would you recommend regarding TANF and the EITC?

4- capitalism means a lot of different things to a lot of people. Could you elaborate on what capitalism means ito you in your world view?

Thanks.

Clearly an invitatation to engage in a discussion.

The next post from samsonh:



Clearly making a personal attack. I think it is fair to state that samsonh is a left leaning poster that is enjoys making personal attecks on posters he doesn't like. Ignore list for him.

A lot of things but mainly due to the moderator not enforcing the clearly posted rules for posters that agree with him politically.

The unbelievable thing to me is that 2+2 has a vested interest in seeing online poker get re-established. There are a lot of good forums on this site. The P forum is a black eye. But since 2+2 gets a lot of P forum page views, it stays. Heaping hate and venom on people that can actually change laws in the way you want them changed is not a good look.

It's pretty obvious once the landscape changes the leftists get their heads kicked in. Why do you think people like Fly are reading the thread and not posting in it?

They don't have mods to protect them here and when they make their tired old idiot arguments they will be ridiculed and laughed at. They can only thrive in spaces where they are surrounded by like minded people. That's why in the real world they stfu, because that type of talk isn't tolerated. You run around calling someone a racist or a bigot in a bar you get dropped. If you do it at a university you get lauded as brave and righteous and maybe get put on CNN.

It's a complete joke and shows why leftists are innate cowards.

Is this is why DS wanted it moved to the P forum?

Regardless, the problem with the "squandered money" argument is that enterprising people benefit, particularly poker players from finding that niche of squandered money. I'd rather enterprising people have it than not-so-enterprising but convincing thieves.

I'm not coward. Did a bit of cleaning up in P (or hope so). The means to an end stuff is dangerous.

Even defended Tooth a bit. Not the prejudice stuff though, of course, because it's bigot and unconstructive, not the view of the future.

A wise man once said....
and then over 100 million people died in a genocidal disaster

david i get the impression you feel like your sense of morality has lead you down your chosen path. i think you should consider that you may have chosen your path and formulated a sense of morality to justify it

i havent read your books but if they are all about poker i am sure they are badly outdated. even training content produced by winning players 5 years ago is outdated. im sure your customers were pleased with their purchase and the value they got, but yes, most would gladly take a refund and forget about them today

there are elements to poker like preying on the addicted that are negative. otherwise theres nothing really wrong with it. you cant play poker by yourself so anyone participating is offering a service in a sense. its the same with investing. you might see a day trader as a leech offering nothing of value but thats technically not true. the economy relies on investment and people taking risks. just take one company as an example. tesla. some believe they are a revolutionary company that will help save our environment and make the world more efficient. tesla requires billions of dollars in investment. it requires people taking a risk. it requires people with money. tesla hires people ranging from tech wizards, to transporters, to salesmen on the floor. people with money invest it and that drives an economy, progress, and jobs. the government is incompetent and inefficient. im not sure why you think they should decide who doesn't deserve their money, steal it, and then hope they do something that is more useful with it than say elon musk or bill gates vs bush, obama, or trump

on top of that, you haven't even attempted to grapple with the overwhelming evidence that handing out free money isn't even a fraction as beneficial as you would hope it is

i think david means squandering money on things like stocks which invest in the economy and drive it, squander it on things like, cars, clothes, vacations, poker, restaurants, etc. you could say all of that spending provides jobs, but like maybe we should all just work for teh gubberment

There's a lot of troubling lines of thought in this thread. It's almost a contest of morality. Or what we think is morality.

Yeah, I get that, but I don't see why you have to draw the line. All of these people spending money on various things fuel economic activity, and they actually do benefit everyone. Anyone who understands Adam Smith gets this.

The problem is billions of people have nothing while a few have absurd amounts. And we have no idea how to fix it that doesn't lead to death and misery.

We've already got death and misery on a vast scale....look at parts of Africa and South America.

The response of the 0.1% is generally to lock themselves behind security gates, which is a pretty good indication of how they see it unfolding.

I've read a few of his books, 2 I don't remember much about but the other (Theory of Poker) was good. IIRC it's just logic applied to poker so it can't really become outdated in the sense that the info is invalid.

That said his specific claim here, that readers would pay 10x the original cost on average to maintain the insights from his books going forward - excluding the value of previous gains - is pretty optimistic. ToP might be unique to poker books in the way it teaches people to think, but it's not unique to all books/media in that regard. Most people bright and focused enough to gain that much benefit from ToP in other fields/aspects of life would find other sources with the same benefit eventually.

What was particularly illuminating about how some people here think was Valdez saying he knows nothing about Sklansky's books, then proceeding to conclude that they're of no value now lol

Yeah, that did strike me as odd as well. TOP definitely has value, and arguably should be first on the shelf for the aspiring player.

And the key part of that is South Africa and Venezuela don't respect property rights. It is 100% of the problem. It is literally the only reason people are suffering to the degree they are in those countries.

If you have property rights, and part of that is a predictable rule of law, life gets better for the masses in every single instance in world history.

The problem is not the .1%. In both Venezuela and South Africa, the people have voted for this result. They wanted Marxism. They got it. They get to experience the consequences. The fault is unchecked democracy. The reason India is poor is entirely because the people buy into class warfare and think the problem are the "evil" rich who developed Post-It notes or whatever David Sklansky thinks is awful to get rich from. The people have voted themselves into misery.

Let's go down the same path that led to the death of 100 million people. Except this time, we PROMISE to leave out the death and destruction part.

What could go wrong?

You mean like Obama? I had such great hopes that he would do something special, but alas he's just another elitist.

Everyone did. Half the reason people voted for him was so that we could finally be done with the never ending animosity between blacks and whites in this country. It is now much, much worse. If I'd have known we'd wind up like this I would have rolled the dice with McCain and that airline stewardess he picked as a VP.

Yeah, there's gold in these hills.

I like how our hero Boobies4Me posted this below, after saying he didn't even read the entire OP. Yeah dog, I'm sure you were diligent when reading every other post though. Story would totally check out.

I'd say step by step.