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11-21-2022 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Not a WSJ subscriber. Is it another puff piece?

what's your advice now?

lay low? what exchange is still safe??
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11-21-2022 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMMY_FRIED
what's your advice now?

lay low? what exchange is still safe??
Whatever you do, don't look at Coinbase's cash burn...
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11-21-2022 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Whatever you do, don't look at Coinbase's cash burn...
I'll look into it right now thanks.

what's happening at coinbase.

they say coombase and kraken are safe still. was hoping for confirmation by houseofcards as he seems knowledgeable. he's the boss of this thread, right?
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11-21-2022 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SAMMY_FRIED
I tell you what,

you can read it by beating the paywall of these articles

by putting the pink into Google search engine and then click search.

usually the first his the article, click it and you just beat the paywall and can read it.
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
No, the number of WSJ puff pieces about FTX is still zero.
thanks, I just read it.

you don't think that is a puff piece pz?

zero mention of fraud, crime, laundering, etc.

it was very whitewashed. like oops, a trading firm lost some money.

this one small paragraph hints at them using FTX customer funds, but you can almost gloss over it if not paying attention. MSM is not driving a nail into these criminals

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Ultimately, the close ties between Alameda and FTX were their undoing. FTX used customer money to lend billions of dollars to Alameda for risky trades and investments, according to previous reporting by the Journal. In traditional finance, regulators require brokerages to segregate customer funds from any capital they use for trading.
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11-21-2022 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Whatever you do, don't look at Coinbase's cash burn...
yeah it's all rugpulled.

i just read up on it I think.

you mean this I guess:


"84% Below Peak, Coinbase Stock To Fall As Stablecoin Breaks The Buck"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercoh...-the-buck/amp/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31781650
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11-21-2022 , 02:38 PM
These guys have $60 bil laying around but you can't see it and they can't tell you what form it's in for...reasons.
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11-21-2022 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
thanks, I just read it.

you don't think that is a puff piece pz?

zero mention of fraud, crime, laundering, etc.

it was very whitewashed. like oops, a trading firm lost some money.

this one small paragraph hints at them using FTX customer funds, but you can almost gloss over it if not paying attention. MSM is not driving a nail into these criminals
You're letting your bias cloud your reading. The WSJ has been running multiple FTX articles a day, all of which contain damning information. The article you quoted also has this:

"In the video meeting in early November, held late in the evening Hong Kong time, Ms. Ellison told employees that FTX used customer money to help Alameda meet its liabilities, the Journal previously reported. She apologized and said that she had disappointed the staff, the Journal reported. By then, the companies’ financial problems had spilled into public view, but the companies hadn’t yet filed for bankruptcy

Ms. Ellison also told employees that she, Messrs. Bankman-Fried, Singh and Wang were aware of the decision to send customer money to Alameda."

That statement implicates all these execs including herself.
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11-21-2022 , 07:32 PM
Fair. Very jaded by MSM right now.
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11-21-2022 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Fair. Very jaded by MSM right now.
WSJ has a long history of investigative business journalism. They single-handedly brought down the billion-dollar fraud at Thernaos.

Another WSJ article today:

FTX Crypto Customers Worry They Will Never See Their Money Again

"Customers of beleaguered crypto exchange FTX are losing hope they will ever see their money again.

The company’s massive financial problems began spilling into the open early this month, and FTX was quick to halt withdrawals from its international unit. American customers had hoped they might be luckier, but many of them haven’t been able to get their money out either.

Where the money could be—and whether it will ever arrive—is anyone’s guess. FTX filed for bankruptcy on Nov. 11. John J. Ray, the company’s new CEO who also unwound Enron, said in a court filing Thursday that “only a fraction” of FTX’s digital assets have been located and secured. Determining how much cash is left has been difficult too, according to the bankruptcy filings, since FTX didn’t keep an accurate list of its bank accounts."

Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-cry...in-11668976779
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11-21-2022 , 10:08 PM
Ok let's be serious now
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11-21-2022 , 11:47 PM
Lololol Elon
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11-22-2022 , 12:33 AM
Lol fact checked. K I'm done.
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11-22-2022 , 03:09 AM
WSJ Opinion pieces != WSJ News
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11-22-2022 , 08:00 AM
Criticising an opinion piece the whole function of which is to try and provide alternative takes is dumb.

I would estimate at least 70% of editorial opinion pieces are at least medium temperature hot takes.

Sometimes they are interesting, but most of the time they are lol wiffs by journalists.
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11-22-2022 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by IAMTHISNOW
Criticising an opinion piece the whole function of which is to try and provide alternative takes is dumb.

I would estimate at least 70% of editorial opinion pieces are at least medium temperature hot takes.

Sometimes they are interesting, but most of the time they are lol wiffs by journalists.
Agreed. Most who grew up in the Internet era don't understand the distinction between journalism and opinion. It doesn't help that some of the most popular sources of "news" like CNN and Fox News are 95% opinion, 5% news.
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11-22-2022 , 08:59 AM
I partially agree. WSJ still decides which opinions to publish. Publishing this one, with that headline, is terrible by a supposed leading newssource.
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11-22-2022 , 09:11 AM
Poor guy lost a whopping $800, better write about it in the WSJ.

Comments are funny.

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11-22-2022 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
I partially agree. WSJ still decides which opinions to publish. Publishing this one, with that headline, is terrible by a supposed leading newssource.
Peggy Noonan once opined in the WSJ that Mitt Romney would beat Obama a day before the 2012 election, based on the number of lawn signs she was seeing for Romney.

Stupidity in opinion pieces is common.
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11-22-2022 , 09:34 AM
If that “Drake Lyle” pic is real, it’s prime for some elite memeing. Patagonia vest is chef’s kiss.

Also, WSJ investigative stuff basically isn’t allowed to use words like fraud, scam, stole, until someone is actually convicted of a crime or whatnot. Even all that Theranos stuff, the harshest they can print is “company says x, but we saw Y”
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11-22-2022 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Poor guy lost a whopping $800, better write about it in the WSJ.

Comments are funny.

It's hard for journalists to find people who will admit on the record to losing their life savings to something as ridiculous as cryptocurrencies. The embarrassment factor limits the pool of available sources for these types of pieces.
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11-22-2022 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Agreed. Most who grew up in the Internet era don't understand the distinction between journalism and opinion. It doesn't help that some of the most popular sources of "news" like CNN and Fox News are 95% opinion, 5% news.
A much bigger problem is that in the internet age people end up in an echo chamber of opinion pieces made up of blogs and loltube channels.
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11-22-2022 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IAMTHISNOW
A much bigger problem is that in the internet age people end up in an echo chamber of opinion pieces made up of blogs and loltube channels.
The New York Time's "The Daily" podcast one once ran a series demonstrating how YouTube's algorithms we're sending people into those echo chambers and turning them into radical conspiracy theorists. They even had one of the inventing software engineers speaking out against the power that the algorithms now wield.
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11-22-2022 , 12:00 PM
Bloomberg: Alameda’s Former Co-CEO Used Poker, Blackjack Strategies in Crypto Trading

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ading-1815535/
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11-22-2022 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
It's hard for journalists to find people who will admit on the record to losing their life savings to something as ridiculous as cryptocurrencies. The embarrassment factor limits the pool of available sources for these types of pieces.
Alex Wice WSJ interview baby. One time!!!
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11-22-2022 , 10:25 PM
More gold from WSJ alum


The amount of influence and money being paid to MSM, in whatever capacity that is, front page, columns, opinions, alumni posts, is mind boggling.

It's baffling the amount of 'trusted' news sources that aren't calling this what it is.
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