Also Molnupiravir and Monoclonal Antibody Treatment

thx to vaccines and improving therapeutics.

All proof of why Let it Rip early in the pandemic as the Trump Admin was pushing outside the CDC guidance, pre vaccines and therapeutics was just a painfully stupid way to go.

Why using rotating tactics to slow spread such as selective rotating shut downs, masking and distancing were needed and good policy.

If Idaho current surge had happened in the First wave they would be in health care system collapse. The only reason they are not is because the time allowed for vaccines and therapeutics to be developed.

UK daily deaths are basically exactly what they were this time last year.

I'm not scared of any of those things. I'm scared of an ever shifting paradigm of global totalitarianism where people are giving up portions of their brain to the state

I give this account until Friday.

Trollstoy on his 12 account.

https://youtu.be/4uexqgkyFmo

Conflict of interest?

Sure but I dont know why you would post this completely tangential reply to my post.

All I was pointing out was that a significant ratio of new cases are reinfections, which has significant implications for concepts such as herd immunity.

However what is lower in the UK at least is the ratio of cases to deaths etc, as another poster has pointed out, the absolute number of deaths is higher than this time last year.

It should also be pointed out that the death rate in USA is twice that~ of this time last year.

Oct 18 2020 2.25 DPM
Oct 18 2021 5 DPM

Just pointing out that vaccines may be making a difference. Even QP got the point of the post. Chill out.

Again indicating that vaccines may having an effect IE places in USA where vaccination rates were lower have contributed greatly to this.

This!!!!!

Bolded kinda an unnecessary dig at Cuepee, in my opinion.

Or course .
Me neither .
I guess it’s the 4th turning .
New generational paradigm.
Soft .

This is some low level brainwashing. Easily digestible, hits all the emotional spots, looks like a doof. You've been played.

Montreal, I'm guessing you don't travel much.

NIH finally admits gain of function research in wuhan

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....d-denials/amp/

It is funny seeing Ron Paul pretend this news substantiates his position when it does no such thing.

Everything is spin nowadays.


For the record, all the current considerations aside, I have always believed prior and I believe now that the US and other nations will never stop doing Gain of Function research overtly or covertly.

It would be considered too much a threat to allow it to be weaponized covertly by another nation and the US to be years behind in their research in this area because they stayed away from it.

So only if you look at it from a 'Its for your own good' type patriarchal perspective, I think there is no way the US is not engaged in it. Let alone the covert weapons guys wanting this in their arsenals.

https://youtu.be/2MndwrOzDvo

1:45
Rand Paul: Dr Fauci, do you still support funding of the NIH funding of the lab in Wuhan?
Fauci: Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH that has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute.

2:27
Rand Paul: You don't think inserting a bat virus spike protein that got from the Wuhan Institute into the SARS virus is gain of function? You would be in the minority.
Fauci: Well it is not. If you look at the grant, if you look at the progress reports. It is not gain of function despite the fact that people tweet that.

2:52
Rand Paul: So do you still support sending money to the Wuhan Viralogy Institute?
Fauci: We do not now send money to the Wuhan Viralogy Institute.
Rand Paul: Do you support sending money? We did, under your tutilege, we were sending it to EcoHealth it was a sub agency and a sub grant.

5:33
Fauci: I will repeat again, the NIH and NIAD categorically has not funded gain of function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institue of Viralogy.

10/22/21
Cuepee: It is funny seeing Ron(sic) Paul pretend this news substantiates his position when it does no such thing

There has been a disagreement between scientists in regard to what constitutes GoF research. Fauci (and many others) believe that the study of natural pathogens (as an example...from bats) is not one of the definitions of GoF research. Others disagree.

Ah yes this was all just a silly misunderstanding; a matter of semantics. I'll keep this in mind if my wife ever catches me cheating. I'll just say her definition of an affair is different than mine

He knew what they were asking regardless if his definition is different than the question's

The projects they funded took novel coronaviruses and tinkered with spike proteins to make them more infectious to humans, i.e. create new human pathogens. NIH's technical out is that the pre-tinkered novel coronaviruses were not known human pathogens therefore this does not constitute GoF by their narrow definition. How you can take that position with a straight face is beyond me.

Anybody smarter than me know any public companies that specialize in / are dependent on GoF research?

Yes now click on that link and read the article as it does not say what Rand is saying there.

Im thinking of shutting this thread down. It seems its impossible to keep it on point for a BFI form. Instead it just always devolves into some politics debate about covid. Is it salvageable? Can we get back on track? Or should I just shut it down?

Change my mind.

Oh no ahnuld is going to oppress this thread just like the totalitarian governments implementing vaccine mandates because you guys are figuring out covid is all a ruse for controlling the population.

Fear not, we shall overcome this injustice by ignoring science and data.