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10-01-2021 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
They all can contribute and do correlate with obesity but they do NOT cause it....
Contribute literally means "help cause".
10-01-2021 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Covid made people gain weight due to sedentary lifestyles and forced lockdowns.

Gain in weight from sedentary lifestyle turns overweight person into obese person.

You blame them for the gain in weight. You say them being obese is their fault alone.

Covid lockdowns were a contributing factor to weight gain.

Anyone with a brain wouldn't argue any further.


But I keep typing to egg you on because you keep spazzing over this. It's hilarious.
Let’s try this ….
Should covid restrictions (lockdowns everything close , staying at home being paid , etc.) be an excuse to getting fat ?
Isn’t there any way to prevent it by a very tiny amount of efforts due to lockdown .

It’s like arguing why someone went broke having no job .

Your stance seem to be ;
If I go broke it’s because I lost my job , not because I kept the same habits of spending while I was not working ?

Could you find another job ?
Could you change some spending ?
Who’s to blame you went broke , your employer or you ?
10-01-2021 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
Contribute literally means "help cause".
So gaining weight is inevitable during covid lockdown ?
10-01-2021 , 06:23 PM
Is that what you think that sentence says?
10-01-2021 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
Is that what you think that sentence says?
Isn’t that what you keep saying ?
You seem to disagree to make responsibility of the obese solely on themselves ?

Let’s try this …

If someone prior to covid lockdown was already eating clean food and did minimal exercice , weighting around 185 .
Covid arrives , stuck at home , still person eat the same amount of food and still by minimal 15-20m physical activity , will he get fat ?

Americans were already the fattest OCDE country .
let’s say covid never happens .
Do you believe without covid , Americans still working , would from 2020 start from no where , start losing weight but covid prevented this ?
Don’t you think the result would be of been the same from the past 30/40 years ?
They would gain weight regardless of covid or not ?

You want to say covid made Americans gain 20 pounds instead of 10 ?
Ok but who’s fault it is ?
They would still gain that weight overtime anyway …
That what obese and slob do …..they gain weight regardless and it’s their damn fault !

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 10-01-2021 at 07:13 PM.
10-01-2021 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
You forcibly lock people down and change their lifestyles to become more sedentary.

They gain lots of weight 12 months later.

Now you are saying it's their fault.
If you think people aren’t responsable of their own well being ( especially on what they freakn eat and do ) regardless where they are , I can’t help you there ….
10-01-2021 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
But your ******ation does not let you understand you are not asking a correct question. You understand that people can word questions incorrectly right?

You need to define the word "resulted" for anyone to answer that correctly.

If "resulted" means - some correlation - then the answer is yes.

If "resulted" means - caused - then the answer is no.

Food desert result in some correlation to obesity. But do they cause it, NO.

Depression results in some correlation to obesity. But does it cause it, NO.

Covid results in some correlation to obesity. But does it cause it, NO.
Why are you making it complicated? I can't understand all this, I'm half a r3tard who failed out of college. Please answer simply with more, less or the same. Do lockdowns and shutdown result in more, less, or the same weight gain? That's all I want to know. Thank you.
10-01-2021 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Let’s try this ….
Should covid restrictions (lockdowns everything close , staying at home being paid , etc.) be an excuse to getting fat ?
Isn’t there any way to prevent it by a very tiny amount of efforts due to lockdown .

It’s like arguing why someone went broke having no job .

Your stance seem to be ;
If I go broke it’s because I lost my job , not because I kept the same habits of spending while I was not working ?

Could you find another job ?
Could you change some spending ?
Who’s to blame you went broke , your employer or you ?
If I create a government mandate that wipes out mountains of jobs, you lose your job due to that mandate and you go broke. Yes I am the cause of you going broke.

Enough dude.
10-01-2021 , 07:17 PM
I haven't checked in on this thread in about 2 months. Just wanted to see if there was any intelligent discussion of the new Merck drug since this is BFI. But nah Still the same old douchebags (who are mostly on block) arguing about nonsense. Covid ended for me when I got my second shot back in March (sure I can still get it but not concerned). I am very PRO vaccines and very ANTI vaccine passports.

Anyway I think the Merck news is big (hence today's rally). Even if it is repurposed ivermectin Having a theraputic and a "quasi" vaccine should get things back to normal (hopefully), although never disregard the tolitarions they want CONTROL!
10-01-2021 , 07:17 PM
lockdowns obviously just make being sedentary more likely

being sedentary = less calories out

in our society, being sedentary does not increase the likelihood of less calories in
10-01-2021 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
I haven't checked in on this thread in about 2 months. Just wanted to see if there was any intelligent discussion of the new Merck drug since this is BFI. But nah Still the same old douchebags (who are mostly on block) arguing about nonsense. Covid ended for me when I got my second shot back in March (sure I can still get it but not concerned). I am very PRO vaccines and very ANTI vaccine passports.
Welcome back. You're older right (60s?)? The data from Israel is pretty clear that protection wanes a lot after 5 months, going from ~90% to 65% for over 60s 7+ months after vacc. I'd get a booster if I were you.
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Anyway I think the Merck news is big (hence today's rally). Even if it is repurposed ivermectin Having a theraputic and a "quasi" vaccine should get things back to normal (hopefully), although never disregard the tolitarions they want CONTROL!
Cutting in half is big but not pandemic ending big

Last edited by ToothSayer; 10-01-2021 at 07:27 PM.
10-01-2021 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
If I create a government mandate that wipes out mountains of jobs, you lose your job due to that mandate and you go broke. Yes I am the cause of you going broke.

Enough dude.
Government paid people to stay home ….
Stop changing the concept ..

If someone loses his job ending up with no income and keep spending as if he was still working for months ….!
Who’s to blame if he goes broke ?
His ex employer ?
Really ?

Same god dam thing .
But it’s worst for the fatties cause they were getting freakn paid staying at home with huge amount of free time ….
Who’s freakn fault isn’t if they got fatter ???
It’s them !!!

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 10-01-2021 at 07:50 PM.
10-01-2021 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Why are you making it complicated? I can't understand all this, I'm half a r3tard who failed out of college. Please answer simply with more, less or the same. Do lockdowns and shutdown result in more, less, or the same weight gain? That's all I want to know. Thank you.
If you are using words wrongly it is not making things complicated to correct that. Answering to a wrongly worded question is complicated and wrong.

Anyway to answer your question the answer is 'it depends'.

For some people the lockdowns and shutdowns will correlate with weight gain.

For other people the lockdowns and shutdowns will correlate with weight loss.

For others still there weight will correlate with remaining basically the same.


That is an absolutely honest and correct answer.

Because Covid does not CAUSE weight fluctuations at all, how an individual deals with covid will always vary.

Unlike how a cold causes phlegm in a person.
10-01-2021 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Welcome back. You're older right (60s?)? The data from Israel is pretty clear that protection wanes a lot after 5 months, going from ~90% to 65% for over 60s 7+ months after vacc. I'd get a booster if I were you.
Yeah I am old (67) I got moderna which has no booster yet. Not so sure if I want a booster or not? Although it seems Moderna lasts longer than Pfizer or J&J. Also I have a lot of faith in my personal immune system. I have been pounding vitamins D, C and Zinc since day one of covid. Only makes sense right? I stood in that trading pit for 7 years with guys sweating, spitting and farting all over me all day long and I was pretty much sick every day for 7 years. Thing is since then I haven't even had a cold in 20+ years. Living in a petrie dish has its positive outcomes
10-01-2021 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on
lockdowns obviously just make being sedentary more likely

being sedentary = less calories out

in our society, being sedentary does not increase the likelihood of less calories in
I agree with that .
But who’s fault is it ?
Society or yourself for getting fat ?

Seriously, during covid i never stop working , being classified as a essential worker .
I just wish I was able stay at home and getting paid and do w.e I please instead of getting stuck working 40 hours and getting around the same salary for those staying home .

But it’s ok , I love my work …

But jfc , when I hear it’s because people have too much time at home , getting paid doing w.e they want at home but it’s because of covid restrictions they get fat and not themselves .
Im like are You facking serious ?????

Would I blame my work to get cancer from smoking because I get some break to allow me to smoke ????
So it’s my employer fault for my cancer because he got me more free time to smoke ???
Really?

I have 40 hours less time (not including travel on top of that ) and I still manage not to get fat ffs with minimal efforts …

Imagine what I could do with 40hours more per weeks ….
Makes no sense to me .
How having more opportunities (more free time with the same amount of money) makes a situation worst for yourself ????
10-01-2021 , 07:52 PM
You sound like a huge douche
10-01-2021 , 07:56 PM
#19431

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Originally Posted by de captain
We know that obesity rose during the pandemic. We know that it rose at a higher rate in non-whites and children. Please tell us the cause.
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Very simple .
Slob with more free time in front of them will get even more slob ….
Thats what they do !
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
People with bad lazy habits don’t transform themselves just because they have more time on their hands .
They already had time before hands being lazy already …!


ETA:
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
You sound like a huge douche

Last edited by de captain; 10-01-2021 at 08:05 PM.
10-01-2021 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
I haven't checked in on this thread in about 2 months. Just wanted to see if there was any intelligent discussion of the new Merck drug since this is BFI. But nah Still the same old douchebags (who are mostly on block) arguing about nonsense. Covid ended for me when I got my second shot back in March (sure I can still get it but not concerned). I am very PRO vaccines and very ANTI vaccine passports.

Anyway I think the Merck news is big (hence today's rally). Even if it is repurposed ivermectin Having a theraputic and a "quasi" vaccine should get things back to normal (hopefully), although never disregard the tolitarions they want CONTROL!
Pfizermectin?
10-01-2021 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
I think the Merck news is big (hence today's rally). Even if it is repurposed ivermectin
haha ... is it? guess i'll have to watch don lemon and chris cuomo to get the truth, as always.

cuepee (and montreal),

you don't understand the concept of correlation vs. causation. i get the point you're trying to make, but you're 100% incorrect. hint: indirect causation is still causation.
10-01-2021 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
If you are using words wrongly it is not making things complicated to correct that. Answering to a wrongly worded question is complicated and wrong.

Anyway to answer your question the answer is 'it depends'.

For some people the lockdowns and shutdowns will correlate with weight gain.

For other people the lockdowns and shutdowns will correlate with weight loss.

For others still there weight will correlate with remaining basically the same.


That is an absolutely honest and correct answer.

Because Covid does not CAUSE weight fluctuations at all, how an individual deals with covid will always vary.

Unlike how a cold causes phlegm in a person.
You are equivocating for some reason, I don't know why. I'll make my question more specific.

ON AVERAGE have the lockdowns and shutdowns resulted in more weight gain, weight loss, or the same?? Please answer this simply and don't provide a long diatribe or explanation. I just want a simple answer, more, less or the same. That's it. Thanks.

I understand calories in vs calories out is the only thing that matters for weight change, I don't need an explanation of anything or to be told the difference of correlation and causation, I just want a simple answer. More, less, or the same.
10-01-2021 , 10:20 PM
Lovely little table proving my earlier point about top heavy loss of life expectancy. Also interesting to see the data laid out by precise age. We should definitely get onto vaccinating the <12yo population immediately if we want to keep this going in perpetuity (by putting selective pressure on the competitors of the vaccine-bypassing mutations).



From: https://covidreason.substack.com/p/p...d-19-mortality

Last edited by Wittgenhe!ny; 10-01-2021 at 10:37 PM.
10-02-2021 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Yeah I am old (67) I got moderna which has no booster yet. Not so sure if I want a booster or not? Although it seems Moderna lasts longer than Pfizer or J&J. Also I have a lot of faith in my personal immune system. I have been pounding vitamins D, C and Zinc since day one of covid. Only makes sense right? I stood in that trading pit for 7 years with guys sweating, spitting and farting all over me all day long and I was pretty much sick every day for 7 years. Thing is since then I haven't even had a cold in 20+ years. Living in a petrie dish has its positive outcomes
Exposure is way underrated imo. I am convinced that lockdowns are very much counterproductive, part of a misguided strategy.
10-02-2021 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
I agree with that .
But who’s fault is it ?
Society or yourself for getting fat ?

Seriously, during covid i never stop working , being classified as a essential worker .
I just wish I was able stay at home and getting paid and do w.e I please instead of getting stuck working 40 hours and getting around the same salary for those staying home .

But it’s ok , I love my work …

But jfc , when I hear it’s because people have too much time at home , getting paid doing w.e they want at home but it’s because of covid restrictions they get fat and not themselves .
Im like are You facking serious ?????

Would I blame my work to get cancer from smoking because I get some break to allow me to smoke ????
So it’s my employer fault for my cancer because he got me more free time to smoke ???
Really?

I have 40 hours less time (not including travel on top of that ) and I still manage not to get fat ffs with minimal efforts …

Imagine what I could do with 40hours more per weeks ….
Makes no sense to me .
How having more opportunities (more free time with the same amount of money) makes a situation worst for yourself ????
GTFO with your unwavering support for lockdowns.
10-02-2021 , 01:28 AM
Montrealcorp you should voluntarily admit yourself into prison, imagine all the free time you would have.
10-02-2021 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
You are equivocating for some reason, I don't know why. I'll make my question more specific.

ON AVERAGE have the lockdowns and shutdowns resulted in more weight gain, weight loss, or the same?? Please answer this simply and don't provide a long diatribe or explanation. I just want a simple answer, more, less or the same. That's it. Thanks.

I understand calories in vs calories out is the only thing that matters for weight change, I don't need an explanation of anything or to be told the difference of correlation and causation, I just want a simple answer. More, less, or the same.
As soon as you understand that QP is on team Democrat and that the Biden Admin is his doctor and immunologist you’ll quit feeding that troll.

      
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