Will the vaccine save you from dying? First of all you have to be at risk of dying.

These are 10 YEAR AGE GROUPS ROFL



Data is data boys, let's hear your moronic counter arguments for forcing a vaccine on healthy people.

Keep posting the 1-off anectdotes of unhealthy people.

Sure, but you are ignoring one very important factor. People are getting injured at an alarming rate and a number are dying from these vaccines. So, forcibly vaccinating people who already have immunity is not only unethical but potentially criminal imo.

its ok to think preventing hospitalizations is not a success.
me i do think its a success.

Making things difficult for elitists should be avoided at all costs. Condescending, obfuscating and disingenuous statements are thus acceptable from the elites.

My healthy buddy in the Caribbean got it bad and when the Dr there found out his blood type he said "ah that's why". I've been reading the studies on the blood type thing, it's interesting. The A's and AB's are getting it worse.

My wife and I are O's, sweet.

Lol, way to cherrypick data from Nevada where the total state population is smaller than a California city.

USA over takes UK for cumulative deaths last time It was ahead was Nov 6th 2020.

You have an extremely poor understanding of the numbers/IFR and are a truly horrible poster.

Dont know how many 30+ year olds are posting itt but would bet money a lot of them are "medically" obese with out realising it.

It really does not take much.

Didnt we do this already?

The government is worried about healthcare overloading and healthy people giving it to unhealthy people.

Please tell me why the vaccine shouldn't be mandatory to prevent healthcare from overloading and to decrease infections as much as possible?
Vaccination is also the only way to open up the world again like it was pre-COVID, which is also a very important interest of the government.

Also, even if only 1 in 10.000 or w/e healthy people that contract it die, I think the net cost of that is still pretty huge in terms of what it costs before that person dies and the missed income of that person's lifetime.

USA will end up 13th on worldometers list in 2021 imo, assuming there isn't a new major twist.

Way too complicated with antibody testing. You need to understand from a public healthcare point of view, rules need to be incredibly simple.
This is why the mask rules are incredibly simple and why the vaccine will eventually be mandatory for almost everyone in countries where they don't get to 90% without it being mandatory. I think it's even likely countries with 90% voluntary vaccination will eventually make it mandatory when inevitably figures become uncomfortably high this Winter and they are looking for any lever to decrease figures.

Also expect a very simple rule basically coming down for this: For age group x-y, you need to repeat the vaccination process every z months. Any age group will have a mandatory repeat process, but the time gap in between will be different.

So you're hugely in favor of banning alcohol and mandating breathalyzers to prove zero alcohol before entering cafes and bars and long distance travel? Because that will save FAR more lives, cost and misery that the young and healthy getting covid.

Silly question, of course you aren't, because you're a kook and not a rational person doing rational cost/benefit analysis or keeping perspective.

Banning alcohol, no. Alcohol also serves a benefit in providing people with entertainment or w/e you want to call it. Mandating breathalyzers, from a personal point-of-view I am against since it will be annoying as ****, but from a society point-of-view it seems a clear win. It'll be mandatory eventually obviously, question is whether it's 5, 10 or 20 years from now.

Also funny of you to highlight my final "extra" point to attack my position without taking into account the 2 main points. If alcohol was overloading healthcare and was contagious, it would be a very different issue.

Vaccine mandates are overloading healthcare, not the virus.

Yeah sure, all medical procedures are being postponed because we don't have enough people to stick needles in people

Drunk Driving kills about 10K a year in USA.

What are the numbers for other deaths caused by a drunk person?

2019 was actually an all time low for this type of death.

This is why.

Mandating a medical procedure that injures and kills people is pure fascism. It is also against the Nuremburg code and a violation of basic human rights.

Interesting to see the straight up fascism being used by those who complained about it the most over the last 4 years. Quite ironic to say the least.

Don't link t some alt news ****, if I wanted to watch that I'd go to FB.

Show me a reputable site that documents the link between the vaccine and the enlarged heart.

The idea that you think linking to that site 1000 covid stories as a good idea just shows how irrational you are. Everyone that is not a crazy anti-vaxer has learned to not pay any attention to those sites by now.

I mean, just try to think for a second you are a normal person and open that site. Is that what accurate information looks like to you?

I am fine with people hating on Fauci for his shortcomings, but hating on Fauci and then pointing to Alex Jones/Joe Rogan or **** like this as the "source of truth" just makes you look ridiculous.

+1

Again here a direct quote from the site the study came from !

“ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/about-medrxiv
here is a quote :
"Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.”

What are your intent ?
Been a couple times you do this ?
U have hidden agenda or what ?

Why do you care so much that vaccine should be bad ?
Do you have the same feeling towards medication ?

Myocarditis is a recognized complication of the vaccine, you dickhead.

Yeah this was big news, Pfizer has killed a number of healthy young people and made over 1000 other young people seriously ill from heart enlargement. Who knows what kind of lesser, non hospitalized/non reported/long term outcomes are going on, it's certainly many multiples of the reported ones.

Think you're wrong here, The Ivory Hecker (uncensored) is well known for being the authoritative source on all things vaccine related.

So ?

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/my...avirus-vaccine

“ The side effect is considered important but uncommon—arising in about 12.6 cases per million second doses administered. ”

You need probabilities ?
0.0000126 % risk from what your talking about or 1/73500 of having problems , with a SECOND dose …

Man , if the climate change denier were as worried with those odds, we would had the cleanest planet in the universe …..

“ “And, though rare, myocarditis can be caused by an immune response to a vaccine such as the smallpox vaccine, which was the most successful vaccine in world history.”

Oops .
Again I ask , what would be % death rates from a virus that would make 1/73000 to make it acceptable ?


“ At this point, it’s too early to tell what may be causing the recently reported myocarditis cases. As with any medical intervention, physicians and agencies—including both the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and CDC—continually monitor the use and side effects of vaccines, which is why they’re looking into these cases. ”

“ Still, doctors are reassuring patients and families. “This is an incredibly rare event,” says Dr. Asnes”

“ With myocarditis, there is often no identifiable cause. Sometimes, however, the triggering event can be a common virus. “We know some viruses are more likely to cause myocarditis,” Dr. Spatz says, such as the flu, adenovirus, parvovirus (Fifths Disease) or Coxsackie (hand, foot, and mouth disease)”

“ Doctors have observed that myocarditis sometimes follows COVID-19 infection. But “Whether the virus itself infects the heart, or whether it's the immune reaction to the virus that causes the myocarditis, is one of the things we don't know,” Dr. Lampert says.”

“ it may put minds at ease to know that cardiologists find that “in general, if the heart has a temporary inflammation, it gets better,” says Dr. Lampert. ”

Yea ok , there is risk .
The risk is incredibly less than the covid it self …..
U said yourself , a risk of complication while covid is a risk of directly dying .

It’s ok to be scared of getting hit by a lightning or from Baba Yaga I suppose .

But it still stand , are you that concern about other stuff like climate changes with those kind of odds ?
Taking the planes ?
And certainly some medications from big pharma must have much higher risk as well, selling on tv with 20 sec warnings at the end of a 1 min publicity .
Do you have problems with them as well ?

I’m just trying to put some context …

The myocarditis happens in healthy early 20s. What are the odds of dying from covid if you're healthy in your early 20s? Do we get to call that Baba Yaga odds too? Or are you not intellectually consistent?