Did you accidently reply to the wrong post? The bolded text is quite ironic if that's your honest answer to the quote above.

Looks like the Republicans in general may start adopting this line.

I think the AA derps do need to get over their hesitation and get vaccinated FWIW.

Meh , republicans went from Chinese in China to black in the states .
Typical ….

Republicans always needs an outside enemy to lay blame upon , instead of facing reality and facts ,shrug .

Strange - I thought it was the immigrants that were at fault, or as seen in the thread here lately - the Jews.

Guess they are fiddling with a few different "blame xxx" messaging to see what sticks. Certainly fits their ideology better than the really weird "look at this one person who was hurt by the vaccine" things, when that competes with hundreds or thousands of "anti-vaxx derp croaks from Covid" similar posts.

Anyone still remember the massive Hong Kong protests that inspired protests against elites in other countries all around the world? And then like a month later the pandemic happened and now we have the largest MSM divide and conquer campaign (vaxxers vs anti-vax) in history. That sure was lucky timing for the elites, for covid to take away all the attention from them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactic..._Kong_protests

Locking your citizens in is ****ed yeah, but zero COVID was not a bad strategy until Delta (and until vaccines were widely available), and many countries quarantine citizens coming in (although the caps being so low this far in is a joke).

Reddit isn't reality, it leans left and very pro-lockdown in general. That said, Aussies and Kiwis have a reasonably high level of satisfaction in their governments handling of COVID, and why wouldn't they? For most of 2020 and 2021 they had no COVID and no restrictions (apart from Victoria which had a long, harsh lockdown but drove 700+ daily cases to 0 with it). A common criticism of NSW (the state having the biggest outbreak now) is that they didn't lock down fast enough and/or hard enough this time, and now they're up to about 700 cases a day themselves and are waving the white flag and admitting elimination/zero COVID isn't possible with Delta now.

+1

Speaking of New Zealand that is the most popular spot on Earth for the elites and their bunker building. It makes sense that they would shill covid lockdowns so hard there as they don't want the cattle to follow them there.

How can they be considered elite when all their schemes and plans get discovered and exposed by people like you with simple google searches? The logical conclusion is that you are being fooled by fake elites (put in place by the real elites), and you have yet to really discover what they are really doing. Elites gonna elite.

Barely, I was too distracted by that pedophile that hung out with so many rich & famous people that also like kids? They like kids, that's how you know the jabs are safe for your kids, these people wouldn't lie.

Too bad that guy killed himself while the guards were sleeping and the video camera was on the fritz, maybe they shouldn't haven't taken him off suicide watch just days after he allegedly tried to kill himself, esp. since anybody with half a brain knew he wouldn't make it to trial alive.

Speaking of vaccine passports. Anyone have an answer for this question?

cos' there's a difference between 'reduce' and 'prevent'?

If there wasn't a fast on-going vaccination and development of treatment program then the difference wouldn't matter but there is so it might.

I'm not sure what else they can do now but try to vaccinate as fast as possible while trying to keep the spread as low as possible in the meantime. They squanderd the opportunity to get ahead of the virus so now it's a deadly race.

As I understand it, that is what they are trying to do.

edit: New Zealand quite possibly in the same boat

Oh really. How do you explain somewhere like Israel then where the case numbers are exploding in a highly vaxxed population?

How does that relate to trying to slow the spread while more people are vaccinated?

WTF are you talking about? Could you try and construct a logical sentence or two. That might help. I am not very good at deciphering nonsensical gibberish.

This is trivial so it's hard to know whioch bit is causing the confusion.

The slower the virus speads the moroe time there is to vaccinate people before they are exposed to infection. I dont really know what can be simpler.

Again WTF has that got to do with vaccine pasports or mandates? Vaccines don't prevent transmission. If they don't prevent transmission how can they reduce spread?

Because 'slow down' is not the same as 'prevent'.

If you're saying that these measures make no difference at all to the rate of spread then I find that hard to credit and, more importantly, so do the authorities (which is one reason why they do it)

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...nglish/prevent

Again. The CDC director said the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. So, if that is true then it can't prevent spread. Not sure why you are having such difficulty understanding this.

In his last 3 post he never used « stop » , he used « slow », shrug .
Strawmen ?

@bobby Yes and the various measures doesn't prevent it from happening. It does however make it less likely or slow it down. Like if I turn down the heat it won't prevent my meat cooking but it will take longer and allow me more time to do the potatoes.

In any case, however semanticy we get about it, there's a very simple disagreement - reduce R and buy more time to vaccinate. If you dont think it reduces R then obviously you dont think it buys more time. Which still leaves other reasons. Main one of which is to 'encourage' people to get vaccinated*.


*this works but I dont support it.

It doesn't reduce R. Which the recent Israel data demonstrates clearly.

And hence precisely the reason why vaccine passports and mandates are pointless.

A quite simple concept which I was trying to convey, that you totally mangled and distorted with your convoluted and bizarre habit of posting illogical word salads that only you seem to understand.

That's your claim. I think you're very wrong and more importantly so do the authorites as far I can tell

So the disagreement is simple and very easy to understand