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08-11-2021 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I was hoping for a better excuse for a riggie to avoid a prop bet that he should win if everything he says is true about himself, but most come in about like the above as predicted.

Probably best you keep all those super duper important assets a deep secret and such, since not everyone is a 22 year old Gen Z in their prime that created an account on an online poker forum over 15 years ago. Anyway, when you are done securing all your important secrets - consider joining team "Let it Rip!" where we believe all people should be inoculated by the method of their choice, and as a bonus - we literally do not care, nor need to know anything about who you are as a human!
The least expensive building I own is worth about $1.5M.
08-11-2021 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
This is actually a real news story:



Vaccine fundamentalists are like a cult, nothing to do with science.

Excuse me?


08-11-2021 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
But you're overweight and vaccinated
That's the first time in my life I've been called overweight.

I've been living such a protected life.


Yes I am vaccinated. What is wrong with it?

Last edited by Tien; 08-11-2021 at 10:42 PM.
08-11-2021 , 10:40 PM
Shuffle

There's no more anti-vaccine arguments. Vaccines are saving lives en masse. These covid vaccines are super effective. You are ignoring vast amounts of data to keep repeating a lie that vaccines aren't effective.


How do you explain these charts with respects to infections vs deaths from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd waves?





08-11-2021 , 10:58 PM
Patricio Elizondo - the guy in your previous twitter post that died was:

- 76 years old
- Had diabetes
- Was borderline obese

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021...hrough-deaths/


I admit the headline sounds a bit stupid. But he did the right thing by getting the vaccine and we have known since December 2020 that covid vaccines aren't 100.00% effective. people with comorbidity can still die. But many less of them are dying.
08-11-2021 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Did you join the vaccine fundamentalist cult too?

I've said before:

50+ should get vaccinated
30-50 depends on age/health profile
under-30 I would stay far away
Above 35+ all should be vaccinated.
All overweight humans above 15 years old must be vaccinated.
All humans with comorbidity must be vaccinated.

Vaccine fundamentalist enough for you?
08-11-2021 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Nope.


Will never reveal my identity on these forums to some quack head middle aged idiot on twoplustwo, or risk having it leaked for any reason whatsoever.


I have too many assets that can be identified using my name or number or contact info and Cuepee is deranged.
lol worried about giving away your identity considering how much you brag about deals in commercial RE in a relatively small market.

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Originally Posted by Tien
The least expensive building I own is worth about $1.5M.



5 days a weak at the gym and still scared. lol snowflake

Last edited by GlassGlazer; 08-11-2021 at 11:16 PM. Reason: bahah as if on cue he posts that ;
08-11-2021 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
This is actually a real news story:




https://thehill.com/changing-america...id-19-daughter





Vaccine fundamentalists are like a cult, nothing to do with science.
Wow this woman is really really dumb. Im actually in amazement lol
08-11-2021 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Did you join the vaccine fundamentalist cult too?

I've said before:

50+ should get vaccinated
30-50 depends on age/health profile
under-30 I would stay far away


It's all risk/benefit. Younger healthier people are generally not at risk. They are freerolling being like this woman:





I don't know if her and revots are going to have to keep going back for their third, fourth, fifth, eighth, and tenth jabs, or if the side effects and severe adverse reactions will be worse (very likely) but if so, I could easily see her going back until she dies, urging everyone else to keep going no matter how bad the side effects get.

Why? Because she's in a cult, she's not looking at the science.


There are some other game theory scenarios besides the side effects that must be considered too, and I don't believe in mandates.

My position is clear: if you're at risk and you want the vaccine, get it. Many will be making the correct medical choice. For others, it's not in their interest and forcibly vaccinating them provides no benefit to society-- in fact it's counterproductive; mass vaccination with leaky vaccines can create new escape variants.
Why would you stay away from the vaccine at all? Everyone age 12 and up should get vaccinated, unless there is a proven allergic reaction to the vaccine. Not close. I dont think the government should *mandate* them to do it, but I do think its in their own best interest to do it whether they realize it or not. The science is very clear, the vaccine cuts your chances of dying from covid by more than 100. The chances of dying from getting the jab are much lower than the chances of dying from covid if you are vaccinated, theyre not even statistically significant.

Last edited by spino1i; 08-11-2021 at 11:28 PM.
08-11-2021 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GlassGlazer
lol worried about giving away your identity considering how much you brag about deals in commercial RE in a relatively small market.

5 days a weak at the gym and still scared. lol snowflake
Your hate of me comes from you being wrong often in this thread.
08-11-2021 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Before I answer your question, where did you come up with the age 12 and up?
Because its illegal to vaccinate those under 12 in the US as the vaccine for that age group has not gotten FDA emergency approval yet. Once that happens (I think probably in a month or so), I would recommend everyone under 12 get vaccinated too.
08-12-2021 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Shuffle

There's no more anti-vaccine arguments. Vaccines are saving lives en masse.
Spoiler:


Am just messing by the way.
08-12-2021 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by spino1i
Wow this woman is really really dumb. Im actually in amazement lol
Bereaved people grasp at consoling straws. Doctors tell 'lies' like 'they didn't suffer'

I dont think that aspect is a vaccine story or a particularly stupid story.


In contrast to the heart side effect post where continuing to support the vaccine is perfectly reasonable. That's just not being ludicrously results oriented. We know there's some tiny risk whch doesn't change if we're the unlucky ones
08-12-2021 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
Spoiler:


Am just messing by the way.
Hehe

You weren't around I believe for that nothing burger debacle argument. Was a fun one.
08-12-2021 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
One more question and then I will answer your question.

What if you live in Sweden, or Germany, or some other country where the vaccines are not authorized for people under 18?

Do you acknowledge that experts may have a difference of opinion?
I suppose if you had a kid between 12 and 18 and you had the ability to travel to somewhere the vaccine was approved for younger people I think its a good idea to do that, but from practically point of view its unlikely to work, so I cant fault those kids for not getting vaccinated.

I dont think any real experts think the vaccine doesnt work or is actually dangerous.
08-12-2021 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
If the woman wants to console herself with those thoughts (which I already understood was a possibility when I posted that article) then you're right, it's none of our business. But if the doctors are lying to her (and such a bald-faced political lie, no less) then it's more concerning, but then you also have media spreading the story as though it's evangeline propaganda-- these are the tell-tale signs of a mass delusional cult.
Not sure I blame the doctors for trying to make her feel the the suffering was less - that's just beign kind.

The media is crap but then it usually is. I agree they are evangelical which I dont like even when I think they're are on the right side (which they are over vaccines)
08-12-2021 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spino1i
Because its illegal to vaccinate those under 12 in the US as the vaccine for that age group has not gotten FDA emergency approval yet. Once that happens (I think probably in a month or so), I would recommend everyone under 12 get vaccinated too.
Why would you want to vaccinate kids when there's

a) no medical benefit to the kids themselves doing so and potential serious downside
b) it makes no difference to hospitalization rates
c) it makes no difference to the spread of covid as covid is going through the population regardless, since vaccines don't stop infection/transmission anywhere near enough to get R below 1. And kids are barely transmitters to begin with (even unvaccinated)

Just pure mad illogic.
08-12-2021 , 05:40 AM
Not all lefties. I dont think most of us are clambouring to vaccinate kids. The experts seem against with the advice in the UK to only vaccinate kids over 12 who have specific at risk conditions.

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JCVI advises that children and young people aged 12 years and over with specific underlying health conditions that put them at risk of serious COVID-19, should be offered COVID-19 vaccination.
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Until more data become available, JCVI does not currently advise routine universal vaccination of children and young people less than 18 years of age. JCVI will keep this advice under review as more safety and effectiveness information become available on the use of COVID-19 vaccines in children and young people.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...s-15-july-2021
08-12-2021 , 06:56 AM
Pretty dissapointed with the Tien vs Cuepee no bet. H&F would happily host it. 1 mile run, max pull-ups, and max deadlift. Easy. Cuepee has a win though if this doesn't happen. Tien calls Cuepee out on being unfit. Cuepee challenges him to a prop bet. Tien says he owns a building for 1.5 million. LOL. Cuepee 1, Tien 0.
08-12-2021 , 07:15 AM
Article from Denmark a day or two before the global lockdowns last year on March 13, 2020

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Denmark rushes through emergency coronavirus law
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As well as enforcing quarantine measures, the law also allows the authorities to force people to be vaccinated, even though there is currently no vaccination for the virus.

It also empowers them to prohibit access to public institutions, supermarkets and shops, public and private nursing homes and hospitals, and also to impose restrictions on access to public transport.
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Initially, the government wanted the law to give the police the right to enter private homes without a court order if there is a suspicion of coronavirus infection. But this was dropped after opposition from parties in the parliament.
Jesus.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20200313/den...ronavirus-law/
08-12-2021 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by arjun13
Pretty dissapointed with the Tien vs Cuepee no bet. H&F would happily host it. 1 mile run, max pull-ups, and max deadlift. Easy. Cuepee has a win though if this doesn't happen. Tien calls Cuepee out on being unfit. Cuepee challenges him to a prop bet. Tien says he owns a building for 1.5 million. LOL. Cuepee 1, Tien 0.
Well, I predicted he would reply to the prop bet by listing some assets, but that was hardly gifted insight as the behavior of the fringy people in this thread is among the easiest to anticipate. That is what helps them be among the easiest targets to grift. Just look at the manifestos and "data" that they post and it is not hard to see how those who craft their messaging for people like this to consume do very well with their obsessive customer base. Information (many times false) is quite the industry these days, and those who foam at the mouth to consume it are easy juicy targets to monetize.
08-12-2021 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tien
Nope.


Will never reveal my identity on these forums to some quack head middle aged idiot on twoplustwo, or risk having it leaked for any reason whatsoever.


I have too many assets that can be identified using my name or number or contact info and Cuepee is deranged.
Nothing I am suggesting here requires us reveal our identity.

I have no intention to reveal my identity. We can do verifications and checks and do this without revealing our identity.

But ya, no surprise the guy introducing the constant stream of eBragging is the one who finds excuses to not step up and verify a thing he says.

/shock

Not.
08-12-2021 , 09:03 AM
Cuepee putting up a fitness prop bet (he know he would lose and that there's no way to verify) is just more disingenuousness from this forum's worst negative content poster. What trades has he ever talked about? What useful data or insight? Zero in thousands of posts.
08-12-2021 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by arjun13
Pretty dissapointed with the Tien vs Cuepee no bet. H&F would happily host it. 1 mile run, max pull-ups, and max deadlift. Easy. Cuepee has a win though if this doesn't happen. Tien calls Cuepee out on being unfit. Cuepee challenges him to a prop bet. Tien says he owns a building for 1.5 million. LOL. Cuepee 1, Tien 0.
His reason is BS as that does not have to be revealed online to be verified. Sure there is some risk it might get out but I don't want mine out either. I can eBrag about my business accomplishments too but what is the point of all this constant stream of eBragging on the internet if you are going to run away from verifying it.

For the record, since this bet is dead, I am not a super athlete but I have been athletic all my life. Soccer and Rugby at rep or all star level thru University (Rugby (7's) is arguably the most cardio intensive sport). I have taken that in my older years and been an avid cyclist, both mountain biking and street cycling. And i moved to Vancouver a year ago and took up Mountain hiking (I don't call it climbing as that inspires thoughts of Everest) when in fact it is simply challenging hikes going up mountains that require no equipment. I do one peak per month and did The Chiefs 3 peaks in July.

Where I would not do great is I have legacy shoulder issues (thx Rugby) that minimize my use of weight training and thus my focus on alternative exercise. I would still be above average as compared to my cohort but in that area it might be closer.

So while it is possible Tien is in better shape compared to his age cohort, it is very EV bet for me as my Doctor and prior trainer pegged me in the top 0.01% of my age cohort.
08-12-2021 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by arjun13
Pretty dissapointed with the Tien vs Cuepee no bet. H&F would happily host it. 1 mile run, max pull-ups, and max deadlift. Easy. Cuepee has a win though if this doesn't happen. Tien calls Cuepee out on being unfit. Cuepee challenges him to a prop bet. Tien says he owns a building for 1.5 million. LOL. Cuepee 1, Tien 0.
Identifiable assets run in 8 figures.

But yes, the cheapest building I own is worth $1.5M minimum.

      
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