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08-05-2021 , 09:34 PM
I hope Shuffle ends up being played by Mel Gibson.
08-05-2021 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
You're like what, 50-something years old. Can't you read a map? If you can't, that's ok, we're here to help.
You should've paid more attention when they were teaching you how to insult other kids in grade school.

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As someone who has actually published scientific research (clearly you haven't)
You've shared your credentials before - let's just say I'm not very impressed.

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Originally Posted by From the study
Therefore, population-based seroprevalence estimates or inference on magnitude of infections on a national or state level cannot be made.
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
this does not, in fact, mean that population-based estimates cannot be made. It means they cannot be made with certainty
This is "words have no meaning" territory. Sure, if you were a smart person that understands how basic things work and are interested understanding how things work and spent time scrutizing the study to figure out how to best interpret the data, then maybe, you'd be able to come up with an estimate with very wide error bars and be able to discuss your analysis intelligently. But instead, your disposition is more like:

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Originally Posted by candybar
It's very obvious to everyone that you have no idea how anything works and just accept uncritically what happens to appeal to your conspiratorial thinking at the moment and reject anything that goes against it.
No, *you* cannot come up with any meaningful estimate. And again, this line of thinking is simply not mentally healthy. You can't separate this conspiratorial thinking that consistently assigns bizarre motivations to other people and ridiculous causality to events from how you deal with people in your personal life. It's all connected, like the bad people in your theories.

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Which is why it's a single data point in the following list
That list is just a data point in how far your delusional thinking can go. Did you put together that list yourself or are you just parroting another crazy person's ideas? Again, inquiring minds want to know.

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Individually, every one of these points can be dismissed or explained away. Together, they provide overwhelming circumstantial evidence based on sheer probability that SARS-CoV-2 leaked from the Wuhan lab in 2018, and the first case in the United States was probably sometime in late 2018.
Again, words appear to have no meaning in your world.

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I know anytime your boys Peter Daszak, Anthony Fauci, Florian Krammer, The Communist Party of China, the Democratic establishment, propaganda rags like The New York Times and The Washington Post, and "official", "fact-checking", disinformation sources are called out, it really, really makes you mad, but do try and stay calm and be more mature next time. Also, as a friendly suggestion, try and acquire some critical thinking skills and a bit of skepticism. I know it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, especially one who wants to believe that everything he knows about the world isn't subject to change, but there's at least some small hope you can learn something participating in these threads, although it seems to be a greater challenge for you than most.
I have no idea who Peter Daszak or Florian Krammer is. I'm a nerd who's not particularly politically active, so my general feeling is that most media outlets are far too politically motivated and insufficiently dedicated to reporting the truth. With that said, your content is far worse - even with all these rags out there, not a single one I've seen has standards so low that they'd accept your stuff. And no, I don't have a horse in this - I stopped by because I'm morbidly curious about other people's mental issues and find fascinating those situations where very basic cognitive faculties are faltering.
08-05-2021 , 10:05 PM
Shuffle, you do this thing - and you do this everywhere, not just this thread - where you come up with some random terrible theory and you start to believe it so uncritically that you act as though not only is it completely true but it should also be obvious to everyone else. And you do this even though it's literally a completely random guess and often wildly wrong. Did you ever notice that before? If so, when did that particular affliction come about? Has it been a life-long condition? Has any adult figure in your life ever pointed this out to you before?
08-05-2021 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Candybar, your post is barely intelligible through all of your rage. No data. No argument. Just attacking me because you are mad and feel insecure (out of your intellectual depth).

Your posts deserve no further reply.
Why would I be mad though? Btw, my posts may deserve no further reply, but you, young man (I actually have no idea, but I think you are saying you're young or something) certainly deserve some sympathy for what you've become.

Edit: I was trying to sound like an old man, but instead I sound like awkward as hell.

Last edited by candybar; 08-05-2021 at 10:25 PM.
08-05-2021 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
Shuffle, you do this thing - and you do this everywhere, not just this thread - where you come up with some random terrible theory and you start to believe it so uncritically that you act as though not only is it completely true but it should also be obvious to everyone else. And you do this even though it's literally a completely random guess and often wildly wrong. Did you ever notice that before? If so, when did that particular affliction come about? Has it been a life-long condition? Has any adult figure in your life ever pointed this out to you before?
Once in a while he will make some specific predictions that can be wagered against. I always hope amid his various manifestos that he gets specific in that way as that creates a very +EV situation. I am entertained by his latest one, as even the OP of this thread is cringing at it. Riggie vs. riggie is pretty rare, so it takes effort to get that result. Let's give him time to really do a deep dive and present his "findings" is my suggestion to you. Just sit back and enjoy the show and consider joining team "Let it Rip!"
08-05-2021 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
If covid was "everywhere" in 2019, how come no other country on earth had a hospitalization surge in 2019?

It takes just 2 months for a country to go from -> barely any cases, very low infections -> massive surge in infections.

This just doesn't make sense.
I think Shuffle's theory is that it's all about testing - they tested in Wuhan first, so Wuhan had the first outbreak. Maybe tests are causing the spike in hospitalizations too - what if they are literally poisoning people with those tests? Aren't all COVID-19 confirmed cases linked to tests? Shuffle is finally onto something!
08-05-2021 , 10:18 PM
Trump did that theory already. "If We Stop Testing, We’d Have Fewer Cases."
08-05-2021 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
5. CDC ordering the shutdown of U.S. Army bio research at Fort Detrich, Maryland when they investigated these cases in July 2019
Btw, that this has anything to do with COVID-19 appears to be a CCP-sponsored talking point:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/09...-maryland-lab/

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Since then, Chinese diplomats and government officials, in concert with China’s vast propaganda apparatus and covert networks of online agitators and influencers, have worked diligently to focus suspicion on Fort Detrick, a U.S. Army biological research facility in Frederick, Maryland, about 50 miles from Washington. According to data collected by the Alliance for Securing Democracy’s Hamilton 2.0 Dashboard, at least 35 key Chinese officials and state media outlets have mentioned Fort Detrick in more than 115 tweets in nine languages since Zhao’s press conference. Many of those tweets have attempted to smear the lab’s reputation, for example by alleging the U.S. lab is “inextricably linked” with Japan’s notorious Unit 731, a germ warfare unit that targeted China during World War II.

But Beijing’s recent information blitz against Fort Detrick is just the latest in a yearlong campaign to cast aspersions on the lab. Since March 2020, Chinese government officials and state-affiliated media have mentioned Fort Detrick in more than 400 articles, videos, tweets, and press conferences. Many of those messages have focused on reciprocal transparency and access to U.S. research labs by Chinese investigators—the diplomatic equivalent of “you show me yours, and I’ll show you mine.” But those more measured appeals have been joined by the promotion of elaborate conspiracy narratives, beginning with the claim that the virus was brought from the Fort Detrick area to Wuhan by U.S. Army reservist Maatje Benassi, who competed in the Military World Games in Wuhan in October 2019. To bolster the claim, the state-run tabloid the Global Times cited writings by George Webb, an American conspiracy theorist best known for temporarily shutting down the Port of Charleston, South Carolina, by planting an online rumor that a “dirty bomb” was arriving via a cargo ship. Webb also suggested an Italian disc jockey, Benny Benassi (no relation to Maatje Benassi), was involved in the U.S. plot to bring the virus to Wuhan.
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
First of all, the times have changed my Peter Daszak, Anthony Fauci, Chinese Communist Party and Democratic establishment, "official" , "fact-checking", social media censoring and government approved orthodoxy loving friend.
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
I know anytime your boys Peter Daszak, Anthony Fauci, Florian Krammer, The Communist Party of China, the Democratic establishment, propaganda rags like The New York Times and The Washington Post, and "official", "fact-checking", disinformation sources are called out, it really, really makes you mad, but do try and stay calm and be more mature next time.
Just incredible.
08-05-2021 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
3. "vaping" illness starts sickening teens and young adults with ARDS (vaping is now known to increase symptomatic Covid for teens
7. CDC issued an urgent bulletin advising public health officials to be on the lookout for outbreaks of severe lung disease in August 2019
These also seem to be theories that are being pushed by the Global Times, a CCP propaganda outlet:

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1230143.shtml
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1229481.shtml
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1230696.shtml
08-05-2021 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Once in a while he will make some specific predictions that can be wagered against. I always hope amid his various manifestos that he gets specific in that way as that creates a very +EV situation. I am entertained by his latest one, as even the OP of this thread is cringing at it. Riggie vs. riggie is pretty rare, so it takes effort to get that result. Let's give him time to really do a deep dive and present his "findings" is my suggestion to you. Just sit back and enjoy the show and consider joining team "Let it Rip!"
I wouldn't personally want to take advantage of someone with clear mental and emotional issues (though I guess that's like most +EV gambling) but I like how you think. I hope he gets the help he needs though. I mean, literally sourcing theories from CCP propaganda outlets uncritically while railing against CCP is really something else.
08-06-2021 , 04:50 AM
This thread actually is the source of HIV via some kind of quantum entanglement and collapse of the wave function.

Reading this thread causes HIV to originate.
08-06-2021 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by candybar
I wouldn't personally want to take advantage of someone with clear mental and emotional issues (though I guess that's like most +EV gambling) but I like how you think. I hope he gets the help he needs though. I mean, literally sourcing theories from CCP propaganda outlets uncritically while railing against CCP is really something else.
I don't really believe much in false sentiment and concern, so I do not make a pretend showing of it. I do not believe your concern for him is genuine, rather it is a way for you to point out that he is essentially "Cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs." (retro advertising can be pretty unusual looked at through today's eyes)

Thing is, he represents a small chunk of society, albeit the loud version, and that chunk is extremely susceptible to messaging that they want to believe in. Needless to say, there are definitely entities who recognize that and pounce at the opportunity to monetize and take advantage of those people in a very direct manner, and the reality is their "consumers" happily allow that to happen, with some taking pride in it.

I tend to use a more indirect approach, as actually wallowing in the mud with them is not particularly interesting (even if it is more lucrative). Thus, I see what people like this think, and I know they represent a massively inefficient thought process, so if they present a situation where they can be on the other side of a market (as what happened last year with political betting) - then I go whole hog into that and extract as much as possible.

Now, is there any way for that approach to monetize when they are into exploring whether Covid existed in 2002 or they post charts from Iceland? Not really, so it takes a bit of patience to wait for the opportunities, much like people who count cards in Baccarat have to wait at times for hours or days for a shoe to present the perfect time to place the wager on tie (feel free to research that approach, there have been some threads here on it in the stats forum).
08-06-2021 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Reading this thread causes HIV to originate.
Do you even grammar bro?
08-06-2021 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by OlafTheSnowman
Do you even grammar bro?
Yes reading this thread causes HIV to originate.

Time as a linear process is a concept for tiny minds.

Also only tiny minds would attempt to nit pick a post about a thread actually causing HIV.
08-06-2021 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
4. unusual summer outbreaks of "unknown respiratory virus" at nursing homes around the country
This is also a CCP talking point.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/09...-maryland-lab/

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Another oddball theory attempts to draw a link between COVID-19 and an unrelated outbreak of a respiratory virus in a northern Virginia senior care facility.
08-06-2021 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
it is a way for you to point out that he is essentially "Cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffs."
I don't know how crazy he is but to me the problem - for Shuffle - is that this is a coping mechanism and it's a very unhealthy one. Plenty of normal people believe in all kinds of crazy theories, but few act like Shuffle does. And it's dangerous for society - really the entire international community - that people like Shuffle are self-medicating by spreading conspiracy theories and propaganda.
08-06-2021 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by candybar
This is also a CCP talking point.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/09...-maryland-lab/
The Chinese have mind-melted Shuffle into their propaganda agent. Wonderful stuff.

Saying that Shuffle is "dangerous for society" is a little silly though. Expert incompetence and the left wing media are far more toxic and dangerous - they brought us this pandemic that could very easily have been stopped, and then told us for a year it was a "conspiracy theory" that this came out of a Chinese lab.
08-06-2021 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The Chinese have mind-melted Shuffle into their propaganda agent. Wonderful stuff.
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We have the same dynamic in the Political forum with a guy who parrots the Alien Conspiracy stuff.

He believes he is just enlightened and critical in ways no one else is. Everyone is just a blind sheep dupe. And yet it is clear he is the one trapped into accepting blindly all the worst elements of conspiracy derp stuff.
08-06-2021 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by candybar
I don't know how crazy he is but to me the problem - for Shuffle - is that this is a coping mechanism and it's a very unhealthy one. Plenty of normal people believe in all kinds of crazy theories, but few act like Shuffle does. And it's dangerous for society - really the entire international community - that people like Shuffle are self-medicating by spreading conspiracy theories and propaganda.


Lol. Buddy when something that gets labeled a conspiracy (discussing could get your social media banned) turns out to be true, all bets are off. Who knows what might come out in the years following this.
08-06-2021 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
We have the same dynamic in the Political forum with a guy who parrots the Alien Conspiracy stuff.



He believes he is just enlightened and critical in ways no one else is. Everyone is just a blind sheep dupe. And yet it is clear he is the one trapped into accepting blindly all the worst elements of conspiracy derp stuff.


You literally just went on rant about how it’s easy and GTO for US enemies to pick their bioweapon from the vault FLOL.
08-06-2021 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Kids under 12 can't get the vaccine, and cases of kids are going up quite a bit, particularly in the derpier states. I get that pretty much all the anti-vaxx crowd that posts here will never have the opportunity to have kids, but that is a part of the equation that makes it not quite as simplistic as you suggest. Its why people need to get inoculated, one way or the other, as quickly as possible.
4 minutes response time is impressive for non lonely trolls. Not everyone who isn't on team covid-zero like a neurotic cat mom is on team 'let it rip'. Like I'm perfectly fine living in a society that sells cars that go 100+ mph and has alcohol easily accessible. That doesn't mean I want people to 'let it rip' either.



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Originally Posted by revots33
You could tell me I can never go into a supermarket again and I would somehow, through force of will or Instacart, find a way not to starve to death.
That's the spirit! Glad to see you can make the best of a dystopian nightmare. If I were tossed in a gulag I'd just meditate about the good times. Can't keep me down either. Don't let anyone tell you you've completely lost the plot
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Originally Posted by bursito
vaccine passports coming to quebec

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-t...says-1.5535639
Italy not happy








French not happy either



Aussie's not happy about their 6th lockdown either. If they shout BLM there will be of zero concern this is a super spreader event

08-06-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1
You literally just went on rant about how it’s easy and GTO for US enemies to pick their bioweapon from the vault FLOL.
Haha. You are showing you have the comprehension of a true derp.

I said no such thing but I get how someone who is a derp might jump to that.

What I did say and what is clearly true to anyone not a derp is that the US has shown an absolutely undeniable vulnerability to the world.

The US has shown that any party that can get a bioweapon/virus into the US that has a similar or worse profile to covid in terms of transmission and death the derps in the US make the US extremely vulnerable to that and much more so compared to the other G8 nations.

The Derps in the US (the dumbest amongst us) actually set the policy limits that can be implemented to protect the country and its citizens. Not the experts, not the scientists, not the medical professionals and not the government. Nope, ultimately the derps in the US will decide what ultimately can be implemented.

There is nothing in what I said that could be denied by anyone with any critical thinking power that is not a derp.

The only defense the US has against this is hoping no such deadly bio weapon/virus is developed or if it is, then it is not used on the US.


(this is where you respond with something that shows your level of derp critical thinking)
08-06-2021 , 01:23 PM
im sure theyre gonna get right on that, just right after they have serious investigations to make good on the warren commission, 9/11 commission, anthrax attacks investigation, etc
08-06-2021 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez

Even North Koreans think this is ridiculous propaganda. The Parkland kids (why is it always Florida...) begging for gun control was pathetic but this is on another level.

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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Covid is going to be around forever, and there will be worse variants.
You're right it's not going away but Certificate Of Vaccination ID was never about a virus, that should be painfully obvious to everybody by now.
08-06-2021 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee

I said no such thing

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Originally Posted by Cuepee
And yet any country such as N.Korea now sees how very easy it would be to crush America and how America would have almost no defense.

Simply pick from the vault of bio engineered most lethal viruses with the type of transmission profile, like covid, that allows it to proliferate exponentially before symptoms are evident and the US stands no chance.

It is not hyperbole to say the US literally stands no chance because even once identified as the Country ending threat it was, the Derps in society would refuse any necessary actions to contain and stop it that other countries would be taking.

Derps read this and think 'that simply is silly and not possible' as they assume N.Korea or any enemy State would be too 'nice' to focus on that US exploit when in fact every nation who finds themselves in an adversarial position to the US should and would likely only focus on this. You can't match their nukes but you can crush the US in a much easier way.


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FLOL

      
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